Lawlor? Is that just wishful thinking?
Quoted from gambit3113:Lawlor has a year and a half and almost unlimited funds to work with for The Hobbit. I am betting that it will be terrific.
Renting space ( Chicago Campus ) from him doesn't mean he's back into designing pinball.
LTG
I'm not thrilled with the artwork, seems a bit disheveled on the playfield to me just not a fan at the moment - as far as game play and how this will rate etc. there is no sense in even debating it until you have put 20-30 games on one. I get the feeling it will play a bit like TZ with the long shots to the ramps. As far as toys go - well this is loaded with them, so that seems to be done well.
If the rules are as deep as they are saying this could be a good game, I can look past a theme or artwork etc if the game plays great and has good rules, but for now we don't know either of those things so I will hold my judgement until I'm playing one.
lol so your saying that it would not be a good if it was not made in the US??? I too would be proud if the greatest pins came from AU
Just asking because I don't know enough about the project.
What's with all the black highly reflective plastic (near rainbow targets and around the witch)? Is this just a placeholder until the final is done, or is there some purpose to it? Seems a bit out of place and way too dark for this game.
Quoted from chocky909:markmon said:
Sorry but it looks like you got to this before I fully edited my post. Go reread it.
Ok so you think I was a jerk to LTG? He deserved it for being a jerk himself. I'm getting a bit sick of people bleating on about how removing the wooden apron solves the issue 100% like there's no room for people who like the idea of their table a wooden apron but also dislike the idea of it being covered in garish signatures. All I said was I 'hope' Jack send us an extra unsignatured wooden apron and suddenly I'm being quoted as DEMANDING it. Ridiculously childish tactics from some so called adults.
BORING!!!!! Now that was classic!!!
Quoted from Drano:What's with all the black highly reflective plastic (near rainbow targets and around the witch)? Is this just a placeholder until the final is done, or is there some purpose to it? Seems a bit out of place and way too dark for this game.
It's tinted plexiglass that will light up depending on game play!
Quoted from chocky909:gambit3113 said:Chocky, you are unbelieveable. You just got yourself completely run out of the WOZ group for being a total ass to a guy that posted about his veteran son being disabled due to war.
Now you are going to be smarmy to Lloyd? When he answers your question? If you knew that, why did you ask? That is your answer. There is an apron made of wood, over a metal apron. Take the wood one off if you don't like the wood one, and that IS the solution. You cannot be serious. There is no way to be this obtuse without trying.
Pathetic. I don't know why I bother being articulate with people like you. It's like you just don't read what I say and keep replting with the same old tired rubbish.
And just because a lot of reactionary morons (including the guy with the vet son) start posting abuse doesn't mean I've been 'run out' of anywhere. You drama queen!
I noticed you stopped posting your BS like your moron comment above on the WOZ forum......I wonder why.....hmmmm
Got here a bit late clearly but I'll say it anyway.
Wow. This is gunna be one hell of a machine. Can't wait to play!
Quoted from chocky909:Wow. You've got me down to a tee there Jon with that hilarious cartoon!
It's pretty sad that some people can't speak their mind without being branded a 'troll'. I think trolls are generally more proactive rather than in my case, I'm generally just replying to nasty comments made by other forum members. I obviously rub a lot of people up the wrong way but that's because I like to call a spade a spade and point out stupidity when I see it. I admit, I do enjoy a good argument and I rarely back down if I think I'm right and I usually am. So, not a troll, just a stubborn git with a dislike for self righteous morons like you Jonathan.
The funny thing is, you are so desperate to insult me but you have no idea how to without resorting to making stuff up and twisting the history of our arguments.
Should not get involved.........
But, the trouble is everyone thinks they are right. The real skill is being able to accept all shades of grey and to let go of black/white thinking. Enough said.....
Quoted from gambit3113:Lawlor has a year and a half and almost unlimited funds to work with for The Hobbit. I am betting that it will be terrific.
Whats with this lawlor stuff? JJP doesn't employ Lawlor. And let's just hope that Dennis Nordman (the guy they actually did hire) works on the next pin. Then maybe we can get something with some flow. Nordman is great with flow.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:LTG said:
Renting space ( Chicago Campus ) from him doesn't mean he's back into designing pinball.
LTG
Agree Lawlor is washed up, sad but true. Last i heard he was in poor health.
I have a feeling Pat L. will be back.
Quoted from markmon:gambit3113 said:Lawlor has a year and a half and almost unlimited funds to work with for The Hobbit. I am betting that it will be terrific.
Whats with this lawlor stuff? JJP doesn't employ Lawlor. And let's just hope that Dennis Nordman (the guy they actually did hire) works on the next pin. Then maybe we can get something with some flow. Nordman is great with flow.
Really hoping next JJP is fast and flowing - WH20 on steroids maybe??
Well, to add fuel to the fire, there are vague, vague rumors that Hobbit not 100% for second pin. Could yet be the unlicensed which would be great really.
Hard to tell without standing at the machine, but is anybody concerned about the visibility of the flippers on the upper playfields? They just seem a little obstructed with everything else in place now.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:LTG said:Renting space ( Chicago Campus ) from him doesn't mean he's back into designing pinball.
LTG
Agree Lawlor is washed up, sad but true. Last i heard he was in poor health.
Last I heard, his best games are still in front of him and the current project he is working on will be the best ever >> better than TAF and TZ combined.
I think Nordman will be working on a non-licensed theme, JJP#3.
Quoted from Fliptastic:Hard to tell without standing at the machine, but is anybody concerned about the visibility of the flippers on the upper playfields? They just seem a little obstructed with everything else in place now.
I wondered about that as well, and the lanes in particular. Seems like a game kids and my wife would have to play on tiptoes.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Lawlor is washed up, sad but true. Last I heard he was in poor health ...
You always have such a lovely way of phrasing things ...
IS it me or is it always the same people on pinside arguing? If one of you just stops typing a response the other will be quiet and we can keep things nice around here like they used to be ALL the time.
Quoted from chocky909:I obviously rub a lot of people up the wrong way but that's because I like to call a spade a spade and point out stupidity when I see it. I admit, I do enjoy a good argument and I rarely back down if I think I'm right and I usually am. So, not a troll, just a stubborn git with a dislike for self righteous morons
Actually, I have this position here. You are just the Troll that I demean until he leaves. Ask around.
Quoted from gambit3113:chocky909 said:I obviously rub a lot of people up the wrong way but that's because I like to call a spade a spade and point out stupidity when I see it. I admit, I do enjoy a good argument and I rarely back down if I think I'm right and I usually am. So, not a troll, just a stubborn git with a dislike for self righteous morons
Actually, I have this position here. You are just the Troll that I demean until he leaves. Ask around.
Until he leaves or changes his nick.
Quoted from coasterguy:IS it me or is it always the same people on pinside arguing? If one of you just stops typing a response the other will be quiet and we can keep things nice around here like they used to be ALL the time.
This is the main reason why I post less and less here. The place has really lost a lot of what made it my favorite stop on the web thanks to the incessant bickering that goes on. Doesn't seem like a day goes by without a pissing match breaking out in a thread at some point.
Quoted from iceman44:The LCD has the "Wow" factor, along with everything else but that is going to be a game changer.......
This is why I got back into pinball and I guess like a dummy, why I started playing slots when I go to Vegas now....very cool, has anybody seen the BDK slot?
But,... but,... but...traditionalist do not want to accept the fact that the LCD will be a game changing improvement if done right. It should be a step up in entertainment factor just like DMD was over simple score displays. It also should be helpful in providing information for the novice to be able to learn the rules quicker and thus be more lkely to hook a new customer.
I will admit that I had not played a real pinball machine for a few years before I got my LOTR, and when I saw the DMD, that was the one item that was underwhelming. The DMD display just seemed primitive as compared with the rest of the pinball machine.
Also, I suspect that with pinball machines being more and more complicated and difficult to see the shots and goals, the LCD will help make it easier to teach the user what the goals are.
I also agree about the slot machine experience. At first I was hesitant to play the video slots because they were different and might not have been as fair, but now that I have played video slots I do not like playing the old reel style slots much.
Quoted from jarjarisgod:This is the main reason why I post less and less here. The place has really lost a lot of what made it my favorite stop on the web thanks to the incessant bickering that goes on. Doesn't seem like a day goes by without a pissing match breaking out in a thread at some point.
A friend asked me a few weeks ago where I had been on pinside? I had slipped away a little mostly because I just needed a break from everything. I hope the mods talk between each other and really crack down on some of the BS. Not just delete a thread but delete the posts that start arguments. I know one was deleted yesterday that was annoying to me. I appreciated that very much and I did not have to ask. It just happened.
Thanks to the Mods!
Quoted from bluevegas:RobT said:Smassa is getting one and is a few hundred miles closer, but thanks for the invite!!
What are you talking about?!! The distance is only like 3 inches on the map!!
lol
Quoted from markmon:gambit3113 said:Lawlor has a year and a half and almost unlimited funds to work with for The Hobbit. I am betting that it will be terrific.
Whats with this lawlor stuff? JJP doesn't employ Lawlor. And let's just hope that Dennis Nordman (the guy they actually did hire) works on the next pin. Then maybe we can get something with some flow. Nordman is great with flow.
I agree completely. And where is this Lawlor stuff coming from?
Quoted from coasterguy:A friend asked me a few weeks ago where I had been on pinside? I had slipped away a little mostly because I just needed a break from everything. I hope the mods talk between each other and really crack down on some of the BS. Not just delete a thread but delete the posts that start arguments. I know one was deleted yesterday that was annoying to me. I appreciated that very much and I did not have to ask. It just happened.
Thanks to the Mods!
The Mods do a great job for sure. Hopefully things will settle down a bit. By and large things are fine and then flame wars inevitably break out. It becomes a bit toxic at times. There's enough BS in life without having to put up with it in my hobby too!
Hope taking a break helped recharge your batteries! I've been thinking I need to do the same thing. Pinball just hasn't been holding my interest lately.
I really hope that the music is very similar to what's in the white wood flipping video.
To me it's very John Williams'esq... Who is one of my favorite composers. Jaws/Star Wars/etc..
I hope Chris Granner appreciates the comparison to JW.
Quoted from dannunz:I have a feeling Pat L. will be back.
I doubt it. With Jack doing one a year and Stern doing 3, the industry is designer heavy and not likely to add to pack.
LTG
Who was it....
Quoted from goatdan:Half_Life said:The "ROY G BIV" color scheme of a rainbow is and has been affiliated with the Gay and Lesbian Movement.
It's also been affiliated with the colors that an actual rainbow has in it, in order
In the words of Frankie Mays "I want the rainbow back, godda--it!"
And honestly, if something like that is preventing them from using common sense on their color placement, they would never openly admit to it.
Quoted from gambit3113:I think you mean Ralphie May.
You sir, are correct. That's been a while, lol.
Haters can hate, but the evident attention to quality and detail puts Stern's recent efforts to shame. (Including AC/DC) We'll see how it plays soon, but I'm pretty sure that side of things will be fine. Regarding depth, like many gamesw there will likely be easily accessible and understandable modes for newbies, along with deeper modes and strategies for the fanatics.
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