I know the top 100 is popularity contest. But can WoZ really be better than Tron? Also the statistical difference is more of a toss up, but the actual rank has WoZ moving up past Tron.

I know it's like cheese fries or apple pie ( you can like them both) and they are both different types of games.

I am posting a poll not to ask which is better, but which you prefer.

Either Tron.

Tron LE seems the same to me as Tron Pro with Eli mod.

I don't see what's so special about Tron LE moving recognizer is cool and drop targets as opposed to stand up targets but not really like Tron LE is world better than Tron pro they are 97% identical as far as game play.

I'm not knocking WoZ as I don't have many plays under my belt, but to me, I love Tron a lot.

Anyway it's great to see JJP and others hopefully make great games as it can only push Stern to up their game. And it's nice that Stern still offers sub-$5k games I bought Tron for $4500 iirc.

Fairly even spilt

I voted Tron because I simply love the game, if I think acdc premium is more fun, but Tron is more pinball zen. Plus I put Tron pics on background of my computer, iPhone and iPad. I have the Eli mod and the arcade mod, and it simply is both fun, sounds great and plays great. No downside to me at all. If people say it's fairly shallow or short, that's kind of another thing I like about it, can get in and have a short game or 5 and it's just as fun as having a 10 minute game of SM.

I can not truly judge WoZ only was on the list, but dropped out after playing one on early code, I am sure it's lost better with the real code, but I just didn't like it, impudent like I didn't like TSPP just not my type of layout. But I am sure it's a great game for many.

I agree. As I said, French fries or Apple pie are not the same, but some like one *more than another. That does not make one bad.

the LE average points is .044 lower than the pro (I call it nearly the same game)

I think it's every bit that good, a modern day TAF.

Somebody rates Tron LE 1.2 or some such horse shit. I know it's one vote out of 200 but just that votes of 1.2 are included in the average is bogus. And a super low score like that can negate 20 superior votes.

For a game to be 1.2 it would have to be something like 'Justin Bieber the pin' and have only one working flipper.

Here's one from JeanJean
Star Trek (Premium/LE)
Stern, 2013
1.495

How can this be possible, there is a category for lights or lighting effect or theme integration. You would have to give a game the worst possible rating in every category or maybe second worst rating in a few categories, but it's simply impossible for STLE to be worst possible in lights, theme integration, sound etc,,,

Every review from a guy that posts a review like this should be erased since he has an agenda to manipulate and nullify the true reviews.

Well

If let's say a game is a solid 8.5 good game, someone votes it a 10 that's not as bad as voting it 1.0 which means worse possible in every single category.

Also if a game has lights, and the work fine maybe the best ever such as STLE, how can it be voted worse ever or next to worse ever in that category? But it can easily be voted best.

Now with STLE it might not have the best dots but certainly not the worst of all time, or the worse theme integration etc... I mean it can not possibly integrate the movies better, it recreates actual scenes from the movies with actual sound clips, what more do you want? How can that be rated worst ever?

I never vote any pin perfect 10 seems silly always has to be something less than 100% but some might not agree and vote a lot of best in category.

Even a bad pin like South Park, I didn't rate that but likely would be 5.6 or something suitably low, I think it stinks but not 1.4 stinks, I can not fathom 1.4 rating on STLE, art, sound, rules, lights, layout all superior to South Park without a doubt that's not subjective it's a fact.

I agree, start their own thread and carry on over there.

I do not see why ST has got into this thread.

But you're the Pinside Legend