No one knows how it plays. It may not be a better buy. But it looks like it will be a quality product. They are going all out on details of each part and toy. They have designed a complicated rule set and are using the LCD to convey it well. It may not be more fun than the next stern with sterns great design teams. But it does sound like it won't suck. I ordered one.

Well for me I was sold on Jack and his team. I also liked the fact that Jack stated he would not cut any corners, and that the game would be jammed packed with features. The fact that it has an LCD, invisaglass, shaker and topper are icing on the cake

New technology, feature/toy rich, LCD graphics and play integration, WMS parts, JJP's reputation, etc. are "expected" to be superior to anything Stern has released. JJP was targeting Stern's minimalist designs exemplified by Rolling Stones. Since then Stern has stepped up their game with the last few LE's (Tron, Transformers, AC/DC), but many feel (especially Stern haters) that Stern's LE's will still be inferior to WOZ both quality and feature-wise. Theme-wise, WOZ is controversial among pin-heads...an either hate it or love it type of theme.

It really interests me, but I am holding off to see what they build next
Don't really love the theme

For me it was JJP's commitment to quality pinball construction. Which is why he broke out and started his pinball company in the first place...out of frustration with the state of pinball build quality at the time.

JJP and Stern both have great design teams,competition is a good thing!

+1. It's a great time for pinball!

Pretty much what I've been saying all along. This truly looks like the first, "no holds barred" pinball machine. Once a theme I like, matches the innovation they're putting into this pin, I will have my first NIB.

Dont forget the headphone jack, networking capability, socketed boards, real artwork, 11 layer playfield... The game is going to be packed full of pinball goodness. Oh My.

Full length rails under the playfield with the ability to detach from the cabinet. No MDF in the construction of the cabinet. Stereo sound

That's a very nice feature.

and it converts into a guest bed

For those that haven't seen the rails take a look

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs004/1104524641178/img/145.jpg

Looks like you can set the PF down on a flat surface without fear of damaging the under-PF components. Nice.

I disagree. Nordman came in too late to be very significant on WoZ. Therefore, I would not consider the JJP design team for WoZ "great". In fact, this will be a real risk. I hate TSPP, Joe's best game. And Steve Ritchie / George Gomez can't really be beat. Add Lyman Sheats, the world best pinball SW guy, and the Stern design team is the best in the world even with Nordman. Further, even Borg has been getting pretty good. The only way JJP could compete talent wise would be to get some great like Brian Eddy, John Popadiuk, or Pat Lawlor. So the stern design teams have a strong lead here. Hopefully great LCD animations and intricate artwork detail evens out the experience where basic game flow may lack. Keep in mind I did buy a WoZ LE so I am not a JJP hater. Just trying to set realistic expectations. The game with the best graphics isn't always the most fun. But it sure helps

Custom made toys by a real artist and engineers, a widebody design, real hand drawn art work throughout, what appears to be clear coating on the cabinet to protect the art , a large LCD, a stereo sound bar, headphone jacks, 5 flippers, multiple magnets, a spinnning house, a melting witch, a flying monkey, a family oriented theme that includes a dark side, a great warranty, Jack will usually personally answer your e-mail directly when you e-mail his company, his daughter will handle your payments/invoice, Keith Johnson wrote the code for LOTR and is doing WOZ which will be a deep game, and on and on.

With the playfields being removable, I wonder if it will be like P2000 and you can buy playfields and interchange them. For people with limitted space it would be very cool. Plus you could have the new "game" for less if the boards don't have to be changed.

Nobody can say it better than Jack himself.

Take the time to watch the entire video. It's worth it in my opinion (I could listen to Jack all day):

WoZ is heavier than Sterns . Must be better.

I love Lyman, but I can guarantee you that Keith Johnson doesn't give up anything to any software person out there.

Calling Lyman the "world best pinball SW guy" does a disservice to Keith.

Nordman joined JJP 23 days after Balcer. Hardly late to the party. Balcer is the lead designer, but Nordman has certainly been involved from the early days.

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/ourteam.aspx

Having a great designer or software guy is nothing if they are not given the time or resources to work to their potential. Stern has hurt themselves by putting out unfinished game after unfinished game. TF with Gomez at the helm should have been MB on steroids not a K-B toys discount bin.

You can go straight to Jack to order if you like...

http://www.jerseyjackpinball.com/ourgames.aspx

The LE and regular edition play exactly the same. Some of the differences are that the LE comes with a shaker, an interactive topper, Invisiglass, and different colored armor. I'm sure they are more differences that I'm forgetting. I've got an LE on order and I can't even remember what it comes with anymore.

absolutly!was the pop bumper in the left out lane Nordman's idea?

I believe so. From what I've heard, he wanted to do it on POTC when he was with Stern but it got axed.

Lol can't agree with you more. Stern games with the "toys" they have been putting in their games look more like something some grade schoolers threw into a pinball machine.

According to Steve Ritchie in his verbal AC/DC interview, this was his first time that be was told he could make the game he wanted without limits. He said that never happened even at Williams. Transformers LE certainly doesn't feel lacking to me. I like it better than monster bash, which was extremely easy to beat and I sold off pretty fast.

As for Nordmans contribution, the playfield looks like a Balcer playfield lacking any of the standard flow that Nordman games (minis Pirates) generally have. While the whiteboard did seem to flow, it didn't seem to have that Nordman touch. I hope I'm wrong.

Pinballsales.com is Jersey Jack's sales company. He said a couple days ago that they now have less than 20 left of the LE model. I think that will drop to zero quickly after the playfield art is released. Send them an e-mail and Jack usually responds personally. I ordered from them and all of the payments were handled by Jen, Jack's daughter.

Also, the LE may have some surprise goodies (not related to gameplay) but that has not been confirmed. One thing that was mentioned was special custom pinballs as a possibility. I think they have other items in mind also.

The theme... oh wait...

I believe Jesse has one left at pincades.com

I bought mine from him...his is an LE

Get the LE if you want it dressed up. Get the regular if you want to save a grand and want the same game play without the extra "pretty things"

Don't listen to the Jersey Jack seminar, it will make you want to buy one right this second haha

I'm not getting a WOZ personally, but I hope it's a major hit. I may just get his 2nd game NIB...I love that he is a collector like us, he knows what we want

JJP has a distributor in VA. Buddy Herron of Mountain Entertainment.

LED's are a more recent trend in pinball. I don't think the lighting has been talked about much with WOZ. Some pins just don't look that good with LED's and some look great.

I hope not.

Absolutely!!,What else,this is 2012.

It is a widebody as well. I like them.

The only other time a person was allowed to build what they want was Lawlor with TZ. In the end the cost cutters dropped a couple things from the game but you can see how it came out. It is always ranked near the top, actually top on the specialist and staff top 100

I'd never looked at those lists before. TZ is currently #1 for the specialists and SM is #1 for the staff. Interesting to see the differences between the lists.

More info. and some points for LED's as discussed on the "Private WOZ forum" which you will become a member of after buying a ECLEWOZ machine.Welcome to the group!!! Kirk WOZ #666

The more LEDs the better. Newer technology. More reliable. More
flexibility in brightness options. Faster response time and more cool
effects. Longer life. Operates at lower voltages. Operates at lower
heat levels. More vivid colors. Win-win situation. Anyone who
doesn't like LEDs simply hasn't seen a good quality implementation of
them. Plus, this machine can be designed to accentuate the unique
features of LEDs without any of the bad effects one might see in
traditional machines as a result of putting a much brighter light in a
socket that never intended to have that type of light installed.

Jarjar, you are right. Thanks for the correction. I did not mean to combine the lists. I always do that because the link to get there says staff and specialist.

I have noticed that my personal preferences actually allign with the specialist list to best. The staff list is too small of a sample group to use. They are from different regions so I think that has a little to do with preferences.

I dream this to be true. I heard that JJP #2 pin if LE owners buy it again they may get same number. Now if playfields just swapped out it would make so much sense. Feel like I bought a timeshare in a pin #. Alas, I doubt this is what the gameplan is.

No sweat. Wasn't really trying to correct you. Didn't mean for it to come off that way. I just found it interesting to see SM #1 on one of the lists. Thanks for pointing these lists out. I didn't even realize they were there!

Since we are talking WOZ, I wonder if/where it will land on the list? Looks on paper to have the potential to land on or near the top. Time will tell

I'm expecting it to be in the top 20 for sure, but (as you pointed out) time will tell.

This game imo will crap all over anything made in the last 15 years. The attention to detail, the lack of excuses from the design team (no holds barred with budget), the LCD and the potential for a new gaming interaction, the playfield design, the quality of the playfield and the artwork on the backbox, wifi connectivety.....

This WILL easily make the top 10 best games ever made.

Man You got the bug BAD! =) It will get worse when your GNR and AC/DC Get there! =)