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WOZ Fan Club - members only

By TigerLaw

6 years ago

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Post #1 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by TigerLaw (6 years ago)

Post #2584 Fan Replacement details Posted by bhwolf (3 years ago)

Post #7017 How to tell if your WOZ has 2.0 boards Posted by f3honda4me (1 year ago)

Post #7022 Balls not making it to shooter lane from trough - Fix Posted by LTG (1 year ago)

Post #7126 Location of the latest software update/version Posted by mavantix (1 year ago)

Post #7128 Update 7.01 notes - released April 16, 2019 Posted by thewool (1 year ago)

Post #7752 Fan Replacement how to and links Posted by f3honda4me (12 months ago)

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#127 6 years ago

Had my WOZ LE since October. It's hard to nail down all the specifics (many are subtle), but the evolving game code has really increased the magnetic draw of this game. Back when I started (v1.22?) I kinda knew what to shoot at, and a few things seemed like they should do something but didn't. Things felt more 'together' and interesting with 1.24. 2.0 and 3.0 just made it a better overall experience, with more stacking, the lights and callouts make more sense, and there's a better feel of progress during the game. I confess to sometimes just shooting shots directly on the fly, based on the callouts without looking up at what else I may want to shoot for.

I'm not gonna repeat all the comments on excellent build quality and amount of cool toys. I've only done a few minor adjustments since I got my game. Apart from the standard witch leg tuning, I put a couple of washers between the monkey bracket and backbox so the monkey wouldn't rub against the back of the top right castle door. Had to adjust the winkie target bracket a bit because the target wouldn't stay up after a while--a minor tweak so the target would be more centered in the pf hole and not rub against the side. And recently the wizard saucer eject started shooting the ball softly right between the flippers. I started to open the game up to check/clean/adjust the kicker mech, then stopped myself and just went to the menu and upped the coil strength from 22 to 24--perfect ejects again! This is a nice feature, where every single coil can be adjusted. I also tweaked the timing for the ball lock releases, and it geneally works fine but once in a while I still get 2 balls released by accident. Not sure how to prevent this. Reducing the timing further has the arm coming down too soon and resting on the front ball.

One thing I can't figure out is the frequent airballs from around the ramp entrance. Any thoughts? Everything looks OK, although maybe the right side of the metal flap isn't tight on the pf (and no, tightening the screw doesn't help). Maybe remove the ramp, clear out the cutout area at the entrance so the ramp sits in it better? I wish I didn't have those airballs. And the Glinda target is not leaning back at all.

Some setup tips to make the game even better. Be sure the balloon pop in the left outlane is very sensitive! Also, munchkinland loops can be too easy with constant double loops on almost every shot. For a challenge, lower the flipper strength enough so you need a really perfect shot to (barely) make a double loop; you'll know you have it right when you can still make the double loop but miss a lot of them. Or, you can weaken the flipper enough so that only single loops are possible (REALLY hard!). Lowering the castle flipper strength makes it more interesting too.

One thing I will comment on is the lighting. I don't play in the dark, but the pf area is not well-lit, esp. around the flippers. I added a lighting kit with double spotlights on the slings and an led strip under the apron, along the exit hole guide. Seriously, this makes the game MUCH more enjoyable. I've played a few WOZs at various locations, in both well-lit and dark environments, and honestly, mine w/light kit makes it SO much more playable, plus you can see the killer playfield art. Those bright insert LEDs overwhelm the eyes with direct light, and you really need extra reflected lighting to see the surrounding playfield.

Like iceman, I've had some killer games and then been hit with runs of really bad (sub-75k) games. What I love about this playfield is the variety of shots and angles, and a few key shots can be made with either flipper (winkie, ramp, witch, etc.). I have gotten pretty good at backhanding the crystal ball spinner with just a bit of rollback. Fan games are OK but get to be boring after a short while--WOZ really tests your ability to get the ball back after making many uncontrollable-but-necssary shots, like the witch, rainbow targets, etc. And I really like the 'exposed' pop bumpers that can throw the ball around the pf (as the trees throw apples in the movie!). I don't understand why pretty much every other game in recent memory has the pops in an isolated, enclosed area with just one or two small exit paths, so the pops are separated from the main playfield.

Gonna play some more WOZ today, and hopefully start a run of some 'good' games!

#167 6 years ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

You have to e-mail Jen at JJP to get access to the group.

Can't somebody just paste the message on the castle loop adjustment here?

#185 6 years ago
Quoted from PinballHelp:

I have really, really been enjoying WOZ... hats off to JJP and their whole team for making an amazing game!
From the unboxing...

I've been showing the game off to so many people, and everybody that plays it really loves it
including Jello Biafra from the Dead Kennedys:

Tommy Malone from the Subdudes:

We even brought the game to the local Maker's Faire and showed off the latest in pinball technology

Name drop much?

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#194 6 years ago

^ something to be proud of.

#199 6 years ago
Quoted from PinballHelp:

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I was not in the mood yesterday. Sorry if I came off acerbic.

No, introducing people to pinball and growing the hobby is commendable. A handful of people here in NYC have also done an amazing job over the past few years too. And there are many other growing pinball "hubs."

#206 6 years ago
Quoted from clg:

To adjust the castle loop all you need to do is raise the wire form that controls the ball in the loop. I just raised mine slightly by lifting/bending it with my fingers, no tools are needed very small and easy adjustment. I have mine adjusted so that the wire form is a bit over the midway point on the ball, it was a bit below the midway point before.

I did mine too, and it makes a big difference. The ball tends to stay in the castle loop when shot, instead of bouncing out most of the time. All I did was to slide the pf out a bit, hooked a finger under the middle of the upside-down-U-shaped wire at the top of the loop, and pulled upward to bend it up a bit. Would not have thought to do this on my own, and interesting that it fixes the bounce-out problem so well...

#209 6 years ago
Quoted from dendoc:

Is it me just being lucky, or can others "backhand" around the search loop most of the time with the flipper and not have and problems? Haven't adjusted anything - seems to great on mine.
Congrats Geremy on your purchase. Grab the munchinland playfield edge cliffy asap - it is the essential one and not hard to fit relative to some of the others.

Your game might be shaped a bit differently out of the box. With mine, about 2/3 of the good shots to the loop would stop at the top and come back out. Now they go around smoothly.

#214 6 years ago

Mine's on 3, average settings, with a ballsave, and it works fine. Some games are bad and pretty quick, some are quite immersive and longer.

For WPT, put it on 5 (6?) ball and extra-easy. It'll be a major stacked multi-ball fest! Too crazy to even keep track of what;s going on.

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#279 6 years ago
Quoted from TaylorVA:

Flipper Frenzy is the last CB mode given.

Yup, you have to get the other 4 CB modes first to reach the Frenzy. Think of it as yet another "mini-wizard mode." I think this was a good change, as you have to be pretty good to get to it and should know what to expect, reducing the amount of sudden drains by novices when it would come up randomly for them.

#281 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that was Keefer's thinking when changing Frenzy to be the last CB mode. How long does Glinda return the flippers to normal? (I'll confess, I haven't made it to Frenzy since the update!)

#300 6 years ago
Quoted from arcadenerd925:

When you say backhanded, can you elaborate? I have trouble making the throne room and crystal ball spinner on purpose (i usually get lucky with the slings)

You can make the Cb spinner from the left flipper, if the ball rolls along the flipper a bit while held up. As soon as it starts rolling down the upraised flipper, a well-timed quick tap will shoot the ball into the spinner. I haven't been able to do it from a straight trapped ball, but a quick tap on a trapped ball can give you the rollback you need. Same shot for the Wizard saucer. You can also make both directly--just need to time it right to shoot when the ball just rolls onto the curved tip of the flipper. Practice!

#304 5 years ago

I think the skill factor may relate to the variety of shots across the entire playfield, many of which are tight (like the CB spinner, individual Rainbow targets, wizard saucer, left orbit) plus many shots can and should be backhanded. After this shot variety, playing another regular game seems to have fewer/easier shots to pick off. (A better example of this type of "training" game is WPT: the 'flow' shots are way up high, so the closer ramp/orbit entrances on other games seem much easier to make.)

#308 5 years ago
Quoted from tonycip:

OH I missed that. can you please explain what that is ? Thanks

A subtle adjustment on the castle mini-pf. Shots to the top/right loop often bounce out on some games (like mine). The easy fix (no tools needed!) is to hook your finger under the wire lane guide at the top, and pull up on it gently to bend it upwards a bit. Helps to guide all good shots through the loop instead of bouncing out!

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#338 5 years ago

Bringing in the outlanes doesn't make it that much easier--the wider outlanes are serious drains!

Any update on an impending update?

#352 5 years ago
Quoted from neurokinetik:

Discovered something new tonight, so I'll share:
On the skill shots:
Crystal Ball target is worth 10000 points, and it also lights all B-A-L-L letters when you hit it.

Is this true? Can you do a short plunge, catch the ball on the lower right flipper and then hit an XB standup to get the skill shot and light all 4?

#371 5 years ago

Lloyd's advice is good. I would also recommend the cliffy protector for the edge of the right mini-playfield. I would NOT install the metal rings around the rollovers. Besides the lack of any wear issues around the buttons, these protectors cover some artwork and look ugly, and I've read they can also cause damage if you ever try to remove them.

You might consider a lighting kit as well. Even in moderate room lighting, the central playfield around the flipper sis really dark. (Unless they have changed this recently.) The lighting kit I put in mine (3 double spots, a strip under the apron and one under the backbox) made a huge difference in playability.

#381 5 years ago
Quoted from bigduke6:

Is there a trick to get the audio( headphone) jack to work? Should the regular audio shut off? Sorry for the questions but my laptop doesn't have a disc drive for the manual. ( I didn't even realize it till I tried to put it in.) My son says i'm living in the 90's.

You need the game's master volume set loud enough and/or very efficient ear/headphones for the audio. There's a separate mute button below the headphone volume buttons to turn the main speakers on and off.

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#398 5 years ago
Quoted from pinball_keefer:

If you're talking about software settings (presets), those are (finally) included in 4.0.

Coming soon to a download page near you!

1 month later
#501 5 years ago
Quoted from herg:

What I'm calling the search loop is the arrow shot on the castle mini-playfield. When I first got the game, it would reject solid shots most of the time.
Regarding the launch, I tried the downward pressure thing, and it may have helped a little. Out of six launches, two made it to the trees. Normally, I might get 1 of 10 through when I pull full blast.

For those who missed it, fixing the search loop just requires pulling up on the wire guide at the top of the castle pf right loop to bend it upwards a bit. I had a lot of bounce-outs here and this fixed it like a charm.

Regarding the plunger issue, try loosening the nuts attaching the plunger to the cab just a bit, so it is held on firmly but can be moved. Then move it slightly and take some test plunges until you get a clean plunge, and tighten it in that position. (This works for any game that may have an off-center plunger, of course.)

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#601 5 years ago
Quoted from neurokinetik:

It has nothing to do with looking at something else, that "3d" visual effect happens whenever the game does that rapid color-cycling during the attract mode.

And it is probably due to the fact that the rgb led lights have 3 separate colored led emitters that blend to provide a spectrum of colors. As the displayed color of each led smoothly varies, the intensity of each emitter changes, and they are located close together but not in the same spot, so the light appears to ripple or undulate as it changes color.

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