Just played this at the York Show. My. God. What an incredible pin. My son and I played this and the Hobbit and (btw we are huge Tolkien fans) WOZ just stood out further. Well done! I am reading up on the differences between the RR and standard and .. Well we may join the club soon! Outstanding. I don't want to take sides as I want all pin companies to succeed (yes, I guess even AP) but this blew away the later Stern machines I've played . Felt more ... Substantial? Somehow. It's probably psychological but .. Anyway. JJP great great work on this..

About to join the club this week - that said, I am getting an original run WOZ standard - no shaker, no Invisiglass. I'm starting to wonder if I should hold out for an EC or RR? Any advice? Or should I just not worry about it and upgrade later if I want?

Thanks - I think the paint is great, but not $1500 great.... the toppers aren't selling it for me either. Seems adding the shaker would be simple. Thanks for the info!

Well damn, unfortunately I missed 1quartershort's post - I did not realize the panels were screen printed on the LEs.. Picked up the standard yesterday - trying not to think about the LE features too much! I do want to add the shaker motor eventually - this machine had the upgraded castle walls and tornado ..

Anyway one thing that was NOT upgraded was the witch. The big plastic tube she's in broke off during transport so I've got to either glue or replace that - pretty disappointed but it seems a simple fix. Loving the game! Set it on easy to get a feel .. Yeah way too easy! So many nooks and crannies in this game! Got a pretty good deal overall ... Now time to sell one of the lineup!

The 3 I've played ALL needed several of the coils turned *down* a bit. If I remember correctly, the VUK kicker behind the crystal ball causes a lot of airballs and it's way over powered. But as was said above, test then adjust - there's no way for every machine to be identical

I played that WoZ a few months ago when we were down there - that machine is set up HARD! I barely got 20K on it, and I own a WoZ!

To all who have had light board issues, or researched it - what's the story on that now? I understand you can pay the $800 for all new boards, but what about games which are starting to fail? Do you still have to pay full price for each board, or do they do trade-ins, or what? I'm interested in re-acquiring and trying to weight my options. I don't mind doing the work at all, but I need to understand the material cost so I wouldn't lose my shirt. . thanks!

Thanks for the responses guys! I’m potentially looking at a game which already has issues, so I’m not asking “how likely is it to fail?” so much as “what’s it going to cost me?”

Good lord! I’m curious what the price on that is too

Back in the club!! A long time ago I had a WOZ standard which was sooo much nicer than my other games (players TAF and TZ) that I was intimidated by it. A few years have passed and I am super happy to be back in the club.

One issue I am having right now though is- the game is always spitting out 2 balls into the shooter lane. It is really weird, and makes the game virtually unplayable because as soon as i drain, the ball ends, yet the second ball comes rolling along a second or two later. It’s like the game doesn’t realise the second ball is there at all.

The trough optos seem to be working ok (though i am not sure how to test them beyond just tripping the light beam), and the shooter lane switch is working ok.

Sometimes I can leave the ball in the shooter lane for a while and nothing happens, but as soon as I plunge, a second ball is dropped into the shooter lane. So what gives? Connectors to the trough have been checked, switches / optos are ok in test.

Fantastic, good idea

Jam opto - I had not heard that term, I will look it up! Thanks a lot !

Thanks, I just happened to find the term in the Mission Pinball Framewoek documentation, but that image is way more helpful. I appreciate it!

Right on; I will inspect the solder points closely , thx!

No cliffy

The ball is being smoothly ejected, consistently, no bounce backs. Both balls are ejected into the shooter lane

as I was trying to sort this out, I fished around near the jam opto, and made sure it triggered properly. After I re-verified the optos and switch, I started a game. And ... so far no double ball. What the hell?! I changed nothing.

Soooo.. update. Yep
Switches were fine. Optos were fine. Looking closely, I ejected a ball into the shooter lane. It triggers fine. All trough optos are tripped fine. Wait, all of them? Bad opto?

Let’s just say make sure you count the balls before you play

Yep.. lol no idea how I did that.

Your WIFE asked you
To get a WOz after buying POTC? Man... wow.

I bought mine from a great guy, another pinsider in a trade. If buying new, talk to Joe @ PinballStar, who can get you one quick. But you can also buy a used one with ease; saves you a bunch of money. Be aware of the light board issues - but it seems to me they are not common.
Eventually they'll fail, but so will everything. I believe there is a WOz with the 1.1 light boards for sale a few hours away in PA.

Hey folks - I'm looking for a witch mod to replace the godawful one in the popemobile; i know the goveau one is OOS but are there still others? the hallmark figures?

PM'd Sillyoldelf for his awesome witch. What other great mods are out there?

Houdini is OUT-standing. You are welcome to come by and try mine, which I guarantee is set up better than any other you’ll find in the area. I find it to be a nice mix where you can both have a satisfying shirt game but also dig in for a long one if you play well. WOZ and TH are
IMO more like “storyline” games where you progress through the plot, while Houdini is more a traditional mode based (many, many, many modes) game with a bunch of mini wizard modes and one insane “master magician” mode. Beautiful game too. And no the shots are not too tight, that is nonsense.

Just did this myself! Makes the heaviest game in the world a little easier to move

Couple quick questions about the winged monkey - when I get the ball over to the playfield magnet, it grabs as usual, and here comes the monkey to grab "Dorothy" - but most of the time this week, the monkey completely misses the ball, and it rolls down the playfield. I am familiar with what to fix if the ball collides with the castle door, but not sure what to do in this situation.

thanks!

Correct. It basically drops the ball immediately. In fact, I guess I need to look more closely - I can see the ball move around so I know the monkey magnet is activated, but I’m not sure the ball ever really gets off the playfield

Good idea. Maybe the upper switch is getting tripped or stuck closed and it’s thinking the monkey is already at the castle

Thanks! Seems strange it would work for several days and then suddenly have this issue

Do we know anything about the YBR edition? I heard somewhere they were looking at cost cutting some of the features out ? Not sure if that’s accurate

That would suck - that’s one of the most unique features! And despite me having issues with it this week I think it really adds to the game since it is directly related to setting up the rescue mode

Hey folks -

is there a known issue with WOZ losing its music after it's been on for a while? I keep coming in to play a game and there's no sound. Mute button is not pushed. I reboot the game and it comes back. This is after 4 or 5 hours (at least) of it being on.

HM. Nevermind? I guess ? Suddenly it's back.

Another mod question - I remember in my previous WOZ, the Winkie target was the illuminated drop target, which looked great. I did not realize HOW important that mod was until I got a RR without one. But I can't find it anywhere! Is that no longer being produced?

Thanks - MezelMods is where I started, but they are showing as OOS. I guess I could send Tim a message - but I’ll check with indypinhead too. I’ve bought from him before . Thanks for the tips!

I believe that is the earliest date we’ve seen for the 2.0 boards

I was fooling around with Add-a-Ball the other day, and our EB is at 50,000. Not sure if that’s because of AAB or because I suck at WOZ!

Which board set?

Sadly, I have to leave the club a second time - expenses and taxes got me this year, so I’d prefer to have the cushion

Located in Arlington, VA, $8100 ruby red. 2.0 boards Feb 2017 build date. PM me with an offer. Will trade for STTNG, JD (+cash)

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-wizard-of-oz-56

Thanks - I’d keep it if we didn’t have son many games, but it does not get played much by the family. have to do some maneuvering and I want to scale back some of the high $$ expensive games we have

Already talking - this might work if we can figure out shipping