Quoted from rai:

That's because you didn't have TWD pro ((I greatly prefer))
IMO like the rules of TWD more than other fast brutal pins and the pro just adds to the pace.
Someone once described Woz as Tspp (plus).
If Tspp was made by JJP with color changing lights like Woz with LCD that would be my dream pin.
If Woz approaches Tspp, let alone surpasses it I'm sure I'll love it.
Some also say Woz shoots like TZ that's my number one shooting/toys pin of all time.

Quoted from rai:

I'd be interested in options regarding Woz, many have owned Woz 3+ years. Interested to hear from longtime owners love the game still? I'm planning to get my own RR late to the party but I'm mainly interested in a long term relationship. Hopefully Woz is something that's timeless and gets better with age. I've not played Woz enough to say yet but I think I've played enough to have an idea."

Personally I love my WOZ which I've owned since January 2014. I was the second owner and so didn't do the prepay option. I own MM, SM, SC, and TH SE and WOZ is my favorite per gameplay, code, the amount of toys, love melting the witch (only done that relatively rarely to probably many pinsiders but great thrill went accomplished) and the game never gets old to me.

As I've told some, if you want a very, very fast game like a Steve Ritchie pin, probably not a great choice unless you've have some of his designed or other fast pins and want a contrast. Some games if you're really good can last a long time depending on how many extra balls, how hard the settings or on and the things you can do to make the outlanes easier or harder. Personally I set mine up on fairly easier setting and liberal extra balls especially when I was a new owner. As I've improved I've adjusted to make it "less easy" but don't I would ever want to play it on it's hardest settings. Set up well re: amount of incline, waxed, cleaned and balls replaced as needed it plays plenty fast to me. Only thing in hindsight I might have changed is getting a RR (love the topper and "extras" on the playfield) over the Emerald LE but that's a real minor point and I'm happy with mine.

Although this is a WOZ thread just a quick note that I also own TH and like it okay but code is still being updated and I prefer WOZ's playfield. To me it has more of a fun factor overall. I consider WOZ great and TH as a good game that will improve as the code advances but I don't I will end up keeping it as long as WOZ.

Quoted from OlDirty:

Not sure if i'm also a member when owning just the playfield, but anyway. Did a project to animate the playfield with an Arduino UNO and WS 2812 RGB Led strips. Recorded the original animation and analysed it frame after frame so i know how the LEDs needs to be controlled. Workload was absolutely insane, never thought it would take that much time. A "bit" of soldering and a "bit" of coding".
But at the end i'm happy with the result. Enjoy!
» YouTube video

Quoted from OlDirty:

Not sure if i'm also a member when owning just the playfield, but anyway. Did a project to animate the playfield with an Arduino UNO and WS 2812 RGB Led strips. Recorded the original animation and analysed it frame after frame so i know how the LEDs needs to be controlled. Workload was absolutely insane, never thought it would take that much time. A "bit" of soldering and a "bit" of coding".
But at the end i'm happy with the result. Enjoy!
» YouTube video

Quoted from merccat:

Awesome job! Would love to get a copy if your open to that.

Quoted from OlDirty:

Not sure if i'm also a member when owning just the playfield, but anyway. Did a project to animate the playfield with an Arduino UNO and WS 2812 RGB Led strips. Recorded the original animation and analysed it frame after frame so i know how the LEDs needs to be controlled. Workload was absolutely insane, never thought it would take that much time. A "bit" of soldering and a "bit" of coding".
But at the end i'm happy with the result. Enjoy!
» YouTube video

Quoted from OlDirty:

Not sure if i'm also a member when owning just the playfield, but anyway. Did a project to animate the playfield with an Arduino UNO and WS 2812 RGB Led strips. Recorded the original animation and analysed it frame after frame so i know how the LEDs needs to be controlled. Workload was absolutely insane, never thought it would take that much time. A "bit" of soldering and a "bit" of coding".
But at the end i'm happy with the result. Enjoy!
» YouTube video

Quoted from rai:

I'd be interested in options regarding Woz, many have owned Woz 3+ years. Interested to hear from longtime owners love the game still? I'm planning to get my own RR late to the party but I'm mainly interested in a long term relationship. Hopefully Woz is something that's timeless and gets better with age. I've not played Woz enough to say yet but I think I've played enough to have an idea.
Particularly regarding the code, I believe Tspp is (in my experience) the best pinball code plus LotR. Hopefully Woz code is as good or better than those great games. It's surely gotten enough time to develop and many updates. I've been advised from other owners how great Woz is, and especially since I'm all about the code it sounds like exactly the pin for me.
Was debating DI (newer) but kept coming back to Woz especially after viewing some tutorials as up to now I really didn't understand what was going on (have just read the rules a few times also).

Quoted from KingBW:

Great job! I want one. You should sell the lighting with program then just let us buy the playfield on our own.

Quoted from TRAMD:

TSPP, WOZ and LOTR probably make up the top 3 deepest games of all time. WOZ has a lot of gimmicks and a ton of shots and flippers just like TZ. If you love TSPP, LOTR and TZ, you will love WOZ. For me it's my #1 favorite game ever and I cannot see selling either of mine (one in my parents' basement) for a long time. It would be the last pin I'd sell currently. My RR WOZ is the crown jewel of my collection.

Quoted from rai:

Thanks, I'm getting a NIB RR, I know that it's better to buy pre-owned if I plan to sell it shortly. But I've a feeling that I will probably keep it so I'm not worried about the immediate devaluation of a new pin.
I know not everyone loves Woz, but I love Tspp and TZ and I love the Woz theme, so I'm betting it will be a keeper.

Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Have both TSPP and TZ myself. Woz is my fav, as other said, it would be the last to go in my small collection.

Quoted from TRAMD:

TSPP, WOZ and LOTR probably make up the top 3 deepest games of all time. WOZ has a lot of gimmicks and a ton of shots and flippers just like TZ. If you love TSPP, LOTR and TZ, you will love WOZ. For me it's my #1 favorite game ever and I cannot see selling either of mine (one in my parents' basement) for a long time. It would be the last pin I'd sell currently. My RR WOZ is the crown jewel of my collection.

Quoted from WyseGuy:

Wondering if I should change out my Emerald LE for a RR since its been one thing after another since I bought this dang thing

Quoted from WyseGuy:

Wondering if I should change out my Emerald LE for a RR since its been one thing after another since I bought this dang thing

Quoted from altan:

Sorry for the simple question, but googling or searching Pinside brings up a zillion false positives.
What exactly does the crystal ball do for gameplay?
Also, I'm about 6'4" and I had to bend down to see the ball's video. Is it adjustable?
... Altan

Quoted from merccat:

Yeah the super shiny ones from Marco are very pretty but not appropriate for use in games with magnets. It gets worse too... eventually they start sticking to each other in your ball trough and up in the munchkin huts causing issues with ball recognition.
I'm currently using a set of standard balls I got from them at a recent show. They look fine and no more magnetic balls. Nice thing about getting them from Marco's booth at a show is you can pick them out yourself. I've never seen one with a chip or anything but just paranoid I guess. They coat them with a little oil to keep from rusting while in storage so make sure to clean them up before installing.

Quoted from 1quartershort:

Thanks Merccat
Actually the ones I bought were the Marco Standard Balls, not the shiny ones but the ones they advertise resisting magnetism item PB116-5. Within 20 games on my WOZ they start to get magnetized and by about 30 games they are sticking to the rails, the trough and even the castle doors being virtually unplayable. WOZ is a magnet happy game but the Marco Standards do not work unless some how I got three bad packages-all 15 did the same thing. However the factory balls from JJP went about 350 games before they started to get a even the slightest bit magnetized.

Quoted from Pimp77:

For gameplay? Zero. It displays what was last hit, not what you need to hit like you would think a crystal ball would do. I NEVER look at it. It's worthless.

Quoted from Pimp77:

For gameplay? Zero. It displays what was last hit, not what you need to hit like you would think a crystal ball would do. I NEVER look at it. It's worthless.

Quoted from WyseGuy:

I bought my ECLE a few months ago for $6500 (second hand, HUO) and JJP has been great with support. We have had LED issues and now issues with monkey, skill shot by trees, and the witch. It's hard for me to diagnose as I'm very new to all of this. I need to contact JJP and see if maybe I can ship the machine to them and have them make it perfect for me. Our local pinball guru isn't familiar with JJP machines so he makes me nervous. At this point I'm not real worried about the cost, I just want to play this beauty and have it at 100%.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

The issues you have mentioned are not difficult to address. Some are quite easy. With the support from this forum, JJP and Lloyd you will have it running perfectly very quickly.
Just break it down to one thing at a time.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

It can give you hints as to what is available to hit. I look at it once in awhile and its fun!

Quoted from Pimp77:

It doesn't give hints. It reacts to your shots...sometimes it is delayed and may appear to be showing something you need, but it's really not. It's still a neat feature that looks cool, but totally worthless gameplay-wise.

Quoted from WyseGuy:

I bought my ECLE a few months ago for $6500 (second hand, HUO) and JJP has been great with support. We have had LED issues and now issues with monkey, skill shot by trees, and the witch. It's hard for me to diagnose as I'm very new to all of this. I need to contact JJP and see if maybe I can ship the machine to them and have them make it perfect for me. Our local pinball guru isn't familiar with JJP machines so he makes me nervous. At this point I'm not real worried about the cost, I just want to play this beauty and have it at 100%.

Quoted from arcadenerd925:

I dont think shipping it back to JJP would be a wise option, there are going to be things that come up here and there (and you're not going to be able to ship it back every time). If you (or the pinball repair guy you referenced) are down to do a littler learning you can get things fixed up locally.
Like pinballinreno said, just break it down to a list and description of the problems and take care of it one at a time.

Quoted from altan:

Sorry for the simple question, but googling or searching Pinside brings up a zillion false positives.
What exactly does the crystal ball do for gameplay?
Also, I'm about 6'4" and I had to bend down to see the ball's video. Is it adjustable?
... Altan

Quoted from altan:

Sorry for the simple question, but googling or searching Pinside brings up a zillion false positives.
What exactly does the crystal ball do for gameplay?
Also, I'm about 6'4" and I had to bend down to see the ball's video. Is it adjustable?
... Altan

Quoted from TRAMD:

I am 6'1" and I would need to be about 5" shorter to see it correctly. I just ignore it..

Quoted from altan:

Thanks for your input even if it's depressing. The crystal ball does nothing useful and tall people cannot even see it.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

I am 6' 2" and I can see it clearly...I look at it all the time, its fun!

Quoted from TRAMD:

Are you 6'2" in guy height or actual height? I am 6'2" in guy height.
OK, joking aside...how? Do you lean way over when you play? Did you adjust it somehow? I have two WOZ and both appear to be made for someone about 5'7".

Quoted from dluth:

So I was looking under my playfield yesterday and noticed this cable unplugged and the Red and the Vio inputs are both free.
It looks like it belong in the Red slot but should there also be one for Violet? What does this board do anyway? There doesn't seem to be any problem that I can see with it unplugged.

Quoted from dluth:

Thanks, actually it is marked a purple colour so I guess it goes into Violet and maybe Red remains unplugged...

Quoted from rockrand:

I like the standards stainless trim and ramps more than green or ruby but to each his own and I like the standards topper better.
Game is a masterpiece imho

Quoted from rockrand:

Game is a masterpiece imho

Quoted from Pimp77:

The standards topper is better for sure, but I like the sparkly green best for trim. It's why my ECLE has a standard topper.

Quoted from rai:

Everyone knows red is the best!