Quoted from jasonbar:

One time, after playing several games, I noticed that certain shots weren't lighting up. I went into test mode & saw that many of the lights were off or stuck on a specific color.
Reboot fixed it.
Only 1x in about 6 months.
-Jason
PS--and had the game freeze a couple of weeks ago--only time in 6 months, reboot fixed that too.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

Check for a loose cable into the rear of the computer box:
While the game is turned on and the playfield is extended to its further most rubber feet. Look in the rear area behind the playfield.
Grip the big black hose full of wires, behind the playfield ,at the bottom of the cabinet and move it around.
If the lights go on and off, one of the connectors in the back of the computer is loose.
Wiggle them one at a time and you will find it.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

That sounds like low power from the wall crashing the PC once in awhile.

Quoted from Schabs81:

Im just worried about resale value down the road. Was told to use touch up paint on door . Im sure one will be able to tell it was touched up. Am i being to anal? I mean this was a nib pin i know adjustments need to be made but cosmetically should have been good.

Quoted from FlippyD:

Changed up my shooter thanks to PinballPlatingAndMore. Came out great!

Quoted from pin2d:

I have an lighting issue that is popping up from time to time. Lights on the lower right half "freeze up", and a restart is required to reset them. Can anyone tell me which board needs to be replaced based on the pics below? I took two pics to show the which lights are freezing up. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Quoted from merccat:

Game play is identical regardless of version.
Price does vary for used but NIB is pretty consistent since they are still being produced.
I do recommend playing before buying. Its an spectacular game and probably the best in my opinion but depending on the type of gameplay people enjoy some don't enjoy it as much.
I see your in CA, going to PAGG? I'll have my WOZ there which plays very nicely. Hopefully power usage with a few hundred other machines running won't weaken the flippers too much.

Quoted from merccat:

Instead of counting up to x balls it starts with x balls and counts down to zero similar to lives in a video game. Extra balls are added to your remaining balls but are not immediately played allowing player rotation to be maintained.

Quoted from knockerlover:

Hey guys just joined over the weekend w/ a RR. I noticed the same thing that the plexi wizard was never really lit. The LEDs glow dimly and do brighten a little when you hit the scoop but I wouldn't say it illuminates the wizard. Is this normal or is mine possibly bad also?

Quoted from pinstadium:

For anyone interested, here is a B&A of the Pin Stadium kits installed on my machine.

Quoted from pinstadium:

I wasn't sure which thread you would see. I posted here also. I took a couple pictures of the clearance and mounting you want to see near the castle walls for your RR WOZ

Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Also, just so the information exists in the thread I heard that the issue why unbufered boards may have an issue is from static that can build up on the playfield in dry settings. The buffered boards absorb the static. JJP recommends using Wizards Mist n Shine wax / cleaner on their playfields partially because it is anti static.

Quoted from BladeFury:

Thought you guys would enjoy what I did with a WOZ display I bought on EBay! Built Multicade 60 in 1 Arcade machine using a WOZ display!! Enjoy

Quoted from BladeFury:

Nope nothing special.I was looking for more WOZ mods on EBay and came across this display for $125 ,,,figured that was a pretty good deal

Quoted from jasonbar:

Started tracing cable to give the other end of it a wiggle. It hides in the umbilical with a million other wires.
Where does it come out on the other end?

Quoted from bobukcat:

But the newest code has a penalty for doing that more than once, right? If I remember correctly the penalty is no-hold flippers the remainder of the ball - that's a pretty serious penalty!

Quoted from delt31:

Tips for hitting the "Collect" shot associated with the horses? I know you prob need to hold right flipper so you can shoot the ball in from left flipper but just can't do it. Am I missing something?

Quoted from GorfFan:

I've got some SERIOUS comments about JJP and Automated Services. My game had several issues and JJP (Frank & Jack) decided to SEND A TECH to my home to fix the several mechanical issues at JJP's costs. The repair was $600, but my WoZ RR broke with one of the same issues two days later.
Mike (owner of Automated Services), Jack, and Frank (head of JJP production) quickly decided to SEND ME A NEW WoZ RR at their expense, PLUS pick up my old one, PLUS set up my new WoZ all at their expense!!
DID YOU GET ALL THAT? They;
Spent $600 to try and fix my game. (Labor has never been covered under warranty).
Picked up my old game
Delivered my new game WoZ and set it up
AND allowed me to keep game number 42 on my new WoZ!
I've had my new "2nd production" WoZ (has new LED light kit) for 6 months and no issues.
Why am I telling you all this, because Automated Services (the distributor I got the game from), and JJP understand and are VERY willing to help out their customers with legitimate issues. I will ONLY buy any new games from Mike at Automated Services! He delivered on every promise he made BEFORE I had to remind him!

Quoted from rai:

Hey all.
I am pondering to buy a new Woz. I believe will be new (if I can swing it) but I am somewhat concerned with if there are some issues with Woz specifically does it break down more than a typical game.
I am not trying to start any trouble, I just was curious, also if I was buying new would that be better such as light board issues which I've hears so much about.
Also what the best way to add GI lighting, is there a kit that I can buy?
I'm off to play my friends RR pin hopefully I will decide to get WoZ (Other pin I'm considering is AFMr)
thanks

Quoted from rai:

Regarding Woz, I'm assuming JJP will continue to make as many as needed for a while, but has anyone heard about RR begin to sell out? Doesn't matter to me, but always nice to know if you have a limited edition that actually sells out rather than for example TFLE or WWE LE that might never be sold near the limited number.

Quoted from rai:

According to the web site

Quoted from rai:

Was afraid of that need to move a few pins around, think I have just 86" on my main wall.

Quoted from rai:

I'm debating can get:
-HUO RR (no Rad Cal) is 2 years old but low audit plays (like less than 100 games)
-Brand new RR in the box with Rad Cal built this year
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whats the price difference, I mean how much more is the NIB with Rad Cal worth?

Quoted from rai:

I'm a keeper, had (still have) Potc for 9-10 years.
As long as the game is to my liking I'll keep
I waited so long because I was unsure about Woz but likely I'm keeping it for long time

Quoted from rai:

Was curious about the horse targets, if people worry about collecting them or does it just happen?

Quoted from rai:

Good to hear.
I'm sure Woz is not for everyone, we've all seen the for sale threads with brand new Woz 100 plays for sale. But lucky for me I didn't get one 2-3 years ago. I was quite on the fence it hasn't been until last year when I actually started to enjoy Woz when I played at a friends house. Now that I fully understand the rules I bet I'll love it even more in my house.
In the past I'd start EC multiiball (didn't know why) and I'd play EC MB (didn't know what to hit) so it wasn't enjoyable. I never knew of the Witch hurry up or Fireball Frenzy, never got a CB or Forrest mode. I've only touched on the rules in my previous play time. No wonder it didn't click with me and maybe others who sell after 100 plays didn't understand what they were looking for as far as how to play.

Quoted from arcadenerd925:

I dont think shipping it back to JJP would be a wise option, there are going to be things that come up here and there (and you're not going to be able to ship it back every time). If you (or the pinball repair guy you referenced) are down to do a littler learning you can get things fixed up locally.
Like pinballinreno said, just break it down to a list and description of the problems and take care of it one at a time.

Quoted from altan:

Sorry for the simple question, but googling or searching Pinside brings up a zillion false positives.
What exactly does the crystal ball do for gameplay?
Also, I'm about 6'4" and I had to bend down to see the ball's video. Is it adjustable?
... Altan

Quoted from rai:

This is totally my reasoning why I don't have a Woz as I've read and heard that people would like the new 2.0 system. I've passed on many pre-owned Woz and thinking about the NIB yet the price is much higher.
Also, I was concerned about the GI on WOZ. I play in dark or semi dark and even if I did leave the lights on for WoZ, my room is not well lit some people say it needs extra GI for this environment bit some people say the extra GI doesn't look good. I often wonder after all this time why JJP has not increased the GI capacity on the newer games and could even be adjustable so if people like less or more then can set it up as they like it.

Quoted from delt31:

question - can you get the monkey lock by shooting left OR right or is it just left?

Quoted from mountaingamer:

Left or right

Quoted from pinballinreno:

Pulling the glass is part of the operation pinball machines.
If anything just to replace a broken rubber or as simple as retrieving a hung ball.
In my case, I pull the glass often enough just to clean the inside of the glass or to regularly apply new wax.
So pulling the glass is imperative to the proper operation of the games.

Quoted from RobKnapp:

Agreed .

Agreed.I have a large jack that I put under Pinball just in front of the bottom speaker I can raise the height of the front of machine not optimal but innovative & functional.I can remove the glass at any time. It is just a pain. That is not the focus of my quarry however . Since (Both) of you responded and have WOZ spread your knowledge and help me make an informed decision to my specific question. I want to know what the opinion of WOZ owners who do not have a 2.0 light boards what there maintenance reliability has been like . I here good things about ECWOZ/ RR were no light board issues and I here bad issues with light board issues. Thanks for feedback to this specific question .

Quoted from hocuslocus:

Been playing WOZ a lot more lately, There are a few items I'm still not 100% on.
Why does the ball stop near the change lanes sometimes and not others. ( or how do you get it to stop back there?)
any tips on the ball save post? seems like 1/4 of the time I misjudge, it hits the post wrong and goes down the middle anyway.
Not used to playing games with posts I guess.
To collect the horses I know you have to shoot under the right flipper, but it's a near impossible shot in single ball play. backhanding Is easier but still leads to a drain more often then not trying to get the ball in the right position. just curious what other WOZ people do.
in weak flippers mode is it supposed to be possible to hit the munchkin ramp? should I increase flipper strength in the setting?
lastly is the wizard mode endless?
and in fireball mode the shots that are blinking red and blue are good/bad shots right?
thanks

Quoted from Grateful_Pin:

Pinballs are not magnetized according to the paper clip test but I did notice that my capture Dorothy magnet sits below the PF while the munchkin land magnet sits flush. Is this normal? I assume I still have a problem with the magnet either way.

Quoted from LTG:

Super Glue the ends together.

Quoted from rai:

Officially in the club.
I can't believe how nice it is.
I'm the second owner but it's a only 6 months old, has 900 plays but looks 'like new'.
Can't believe how beautiful it is.
I've played Woz before but never looked up close lifted the PF the supports are so nice, JJP really does it right.
It's the most expensive pin I've owned but looks to be worth every penny. I got a great deal so it was not much more than what I sold my STLE for, but it feels much nicer in every way.
I tried to capture a picture of the RadCal in the third picture.
I only played a couple games, still learning the rules but just spectacular.

Quoted from delt31:

so I might have my first light issue. All of a sudden no rainbow target lights and no light for lion. Any suggestions to check before I call JJP for a potential replacement board (I guess?). Thanks
Looks like LED 1 through 34 based on individual led test. Starts with rainbow letters.

Quoted from rai:

I have something happen that seems wrong. I had a ball locked (via winged monkey) but my game ended and the ball was not released, so the next game went to lock a ball into the castle and instead of locking one and releasing one, I got both balls in play and no ball locked.
Is this something wrong or something I need to change in the menu?
I did press start during the match sequence so maybe it would have released the ball IDK?

Quoted from rai:

I am really enjoying this pin, it's faster than I had expected. It can be stop and go but there are times that the ball really moves and even in it's "slower" times there it's still not floaty at all.
What settings should I consider?
I have set everything to medium and TNPLH to easy meaning hit any rainbow target to start (not each specific letter) and progress is held, set Toto up to 3 times if successful.
Set ball save to 7 seconds and tilt warning to 2 per ball.

Quoted from rai:

what is the throne room multi ball it looks like (from the rules) as ECMB, however I didn't have that ready to go, so does it just jump to ECMB with auto launch balls?

Quoted from fnosm:

So,
I'm guessing that you have your machine set to 3 balls per game and the kick ass game described above all happened because of the the 3rd ball.
Throne room Multiball is a gimme on your third ball when your first two balls are not good.
Its like the machine is saying to you:
"I know your first two balls were pretty awful but trust me, once you get to know me your are gonna love me.
And to prove it to you here is a multiball.
See?
Told you I am a great game.
Of course I take bills "
So many of my epic games all happened because of 3rd ball Throne Room Multiball (3BTRM)

Quoted from EricHadley:

I picked up the WOZ today, so excited as its a fun game! I went into the light test menu and all but 4 lights are 100% perfect. 4 of the GI lights won't do white, instead are blue. Any thoughts? Do I need to replace these 4?

Quoted from Pimp77:

When are we going to get the sparkly lighting effects back???

Quoted from DCFAN:

Likely your skill shot stand target is too sensitive and needs to be gapped.

Quoted from rai:

I’ve just started to experience this the ball lock will allow two balls to be released instead of one, guess that’s an adjustment setting and finally just started to have the monkey come down to capture the ball even if it’s not locked on the magnet (ball never made it to the top magnet).

Quoted from rai:

wow that's too hard, I'm going to need to up my game.

Quoted from DeathHimself:

When you finish Lloyd give us an idea on how long it took you, so I can x4 and know how long it will take me.

Quoted from msj2222:

I also notic ed they don't line up right under the acrylic . It is placed all the way forward against the bracket and the leds are somewhat behind the wizard acrylic! I'm hoping they have a better replacement and this is a mistake

Quoted from dirtbag66:

Got my light issue resolved, but now I have something new.
When playing a two player game, and a ball is already locked in the Witch's castle, when the other player has the ball grabbed by the monkey and it's going up to the castle, the single door won't open to allow the locked ball to be released.
But when I start castle multiball, the door opens just fine and let's the ball out. Anyone ever have this happen? What should I do?

Quoted from merccat:

Is the door actually trying to open or is it that the force of a second ball dropping up there makes the door move a bit? It's very strange that it would open for castle MB but not when a second ball is going up. It should actually be releasing the ball once the ball is about 1/2 to 3/4 of the way up.
I would check the switch behind the door... if it's not registering the ball, or maybe the ball gets moved to where it's no longer on the switch up there somehow I could see this happening. Since the door opens for other events I don't think it would be an issue with the door. My money is on the switch.
The only part that doesn't fit is that if the switch wasn't working you would think it would get stuck there on the first ball and not launch your new ball.... but if it's flaky enough to register on drop but then while sitting there get settled to where the ball no longer is holding the switch on I could see it thinking there is no ball up there.

Quoted from RobKnapp:

To Buy or Not to buy . I read the last (7) pages of this thread . The good news a lot of support on this thread .The bad . It look like it is needed . I am lousy technician. There seem many (issues) with this WOZ pinball from what I just read over the last (7) pages . It is my "Grail" pinball. Not sure it is a fit for a person that is just not technically inclined.

Quoted from RobKnapp:

Honestly It is when I have to start to take off mini playfields or lots of upper playfield part that I fall short. My TZ mini playfield have had the center insert light socket burnt out for years. My StarTrek LE STERN put one POP bumper LED half way under the Vengeance Ship Mech . I can live with those issues But WOZ to rebuild a flipper or change the back sling . Castle Door stuck . It may never happen but as many say on here and it is true " Its Pinball" . I guess I am intimidated by WOZ . But I could do it if I put my mind to it . And it was not in my main pinball room were my pinballs are so close together 5 on one wall 4 on the opposite wall . I have to put it in my so called Dining room to have room to work . Its gotten like I am pack rat . My AFM is part way into a closet I took the door off . That LED conversion was hard to do I was like an octopus . I apologize for the non WOZ photos .

Quoted from merccat:

Even having had the game for a couple years now and melting her several times now it’s still by far my favorite mode in pinball. A great rush!

Quoted from GrimDog:

It’s for a family. I worry about woz’s difficulty as it wasn’t the easiest for me to pickup when I played it and I’m far from a great player. My wife loves the look of woz and the theme and the vote is split down the middle on DI and Woz.

Quoted from GrimDog:

This game is amazing. The immersion, depth and aesthetic beauty of the machine is unmatched.
Question though. Is my plunger ridiculously weak or is something else amiss? I can’t plunge straight through the orbit. Best I can get is into the top lanes and into the top pops.

Quoted from capguntrooper:

Anybody else have this issue? I will get a reject and or ball will get stuck there from munchkin protector. Suggestions?

Quoted from GrimDog:

Well, game lasted 3 days till the light boards died. 3/4 if the play field is a strobe light mess now. Gamble on old game failed

Quoted from Chitownpinball:

Im also still having issues with the sound. The rca/mini jack issue seems to be whats going on. I lose callouts and low end and I have to mess with the rca jacks and mini jack to get it back.

Quoted from hocuslocus:

one maybe issue I'm having (not sure if it's part of the code). In the destroy the wicked witch mode, sometimes out of the blue it stops letting you hold the flippers. It's like that no hold flipper mode, but it stays like that even when you are out of that mode, until you loose your ball. The witch said something both times, not sure if it's a coincidence "you can't control my ball".
It's happened twice so far. The only reason I don't think it's part of the code is because its so random (first time I hit the ball shot 3 times in a row, second time I think I hit a red shot twice, not in a row) and it stays active even when you are no longer in any modes.

Quoted from pinball_keefer:

Glad you guys like it... check_switch_26 is responsible for most of this one, especially the sound and old mobo fixes.

Quoted from check_switch_26:

Darn it. Yes, there was a fix related to the score display because it WASN'T showing in places where it was supposed to be. I'll take a look. Thanks for the report.
--Ted

Quoted from Pinballomatic:

== Version 6.60 December 12, 2017 ==
* Allow main screen scale/offset adjustment on all monitor types
=== OS

Quoted from merccat:

A couple months in now you may be able to see the first signs of the need. Look carefully at the paint/clear along the edge of the munchkin playfield. For me it was most prevelant on the edge around the ramp entrance. Dollars to dougnuts you have chipping there by now or else you’re quite lucky.

Quoted from check_switch_26:

Yes, set SPECIAL to POINTS to see the SPECIAL animation. That change was made in 6.50 back in June. The game now shows FREE GAME or EXTRA BALL, as appropriate, for those settings.
--Ted

Quoted from arcadenerd925:

Welcome to the hobby. If the numbers match (I believe with the last digit of your score) you get a free game. Fun to have happen on location, but a snoozer at home on free play. Happy new years.

Quoted from woody76:

Well, I had walk away from the ruby red today. Less than 200 plays and had the upper playfield chipping. All the 2.0 games I have looked at have had this issue. I have friends with 2013 run games with no chipping. This appears to be a issue at this point. I have passed on 3 now with the chipping issue. I guess I will look for NIB and add cliffy and protection immediately

Quoted from Frogman:

You're probably right and I should have thought about that. This is my first NIB machine and for some reason I didn't think of it in the same context as the older ones in my collection since there are so many settings and a lot of newer technology....but many mechanisms are the same. Thanks for responding.

Quoted from Chitownpinball:

Closer to 1m every day....

Quoted from Chitownpinball:

Is there a PAPA/Bowen video for this game yet? I see the pre-release one,but I cant find an updated one.

Quoted from HarryReimer:

Yeah, I suck at pinball too... I got close, but the software update wiped it.

Quoted from mtp78:

Had an issue with castle exit wire form optics not working. I traced the issue to the orange wire on main optics board connector came out of the pigtail ..easy fix
At the time i noticed castle doors are now opening with only one impact...not the usual three....check all connectors. All good.... any thoughts ??????

Quoted from 27dnast:

Installed pin stadium (GI color changing with UV flash)... have had about 1.5 weeks... decided it’s not floating my boat. Going to pull it and put it up for sale, if anyone might be interested. Still have shipping tube, etc.

Quoted from bigd1979:

How many make this pin eaiser? Im finding it very difficult and with the deep ruleset im not getting anywhere lol. I have it playing very fast (jacked way up ) on factory settings with no replay extra balls . Thinking of just moving the outlanes in as they are like a vaccum. Don't look like much ajustment there so not sure if it will help much. Whats everyone else doing to make it better to play?

Quoted from FlippyD:

Took the middle STDM prevention post out.

Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Well now I'm officially in the club. Box said it was RR 75th number 182. Built on Dec 22 2017, but I couldn't find the sticker for the apron anywhere on the box or in the packaging. I guess I'll see if they can send me one. Game played almost perfect out of the box. Only issue is the munchkin ball release will let two go at once. So I'll have to tweak that. I still haven't received my cliffys so I put mylar around the edge of the munchkin playfield for now. Game is incredibly well built and just beautiful to look at. I cant get over it. Just awesome. Well done JJP.
Now on to a few pics.

Quoted from pinballinreno:

The numbers relate to how long the bar stays up.
So smaller numbers to stop a ball from rolling out.

Quoted from Bos98:

Cross posted in Rob’s powder coating thread.
Gave my standard a little upgrade.

Quoted from kidchrisso:

So my letter "N" in rainbow has gone a little off color and flakey. Game is 14 months new, has less than 500 plays...weak! New light board is $239...seriously! Or I can send mine in for a replacement one for $139, probably a referb...complete crap. Anyone replaced one of the light cells before or know where to get one? I have felt that JJP takes good care of their customers but feel butt hurt on this one.

Quoted from moonduckie78:

No, I was referring to Automated Services in CT, a JJP distributor. Lucky for you, it sounds like your WOZ didn't come from them.

Quoted from Indusguys:

Did you change the battery with the game on? Or does the fan run when the machine is powered down? I would recommend turning the game off before attempting any repairs.

Quoted from Georgeh:

how often do u have to do this . I didn't know batteries had to be changed or even where they are

Quoted from rockrand:

Them instructions don't tell you there is a clip on the side of the holder facing the player and you just need to use the tape to make sure you don't drop the battery and mess up a part in the board I was having fits before I realized this fact about the release.

Quoted from GrimDog:

I finally cracked a million today after owning the game 4 months....not a big deal to most here but I was pumped

Quoted from Pinballgoddess:

This is my hi score this morning after 3 1/2 years of playing.
Game set at 20 sec ball save, narrow outlanes, 3 ball game, extra balls enabled.
code 6.61 reserve player mode, locking bar set to virtual.
The game was 1 hour 10 mins. I know its not the highest score ever but its the best I have ever done!
I play it every night, I love this game!

Quoted from Pinbear:

Played WOZ for 2 weeks. Currently my highest score is about 550K. 3 ball game, Home + Easy setting, narrowed both outlanes, 7 seconds ball saving.
I only did Wicked Witch once and didn't win...
For me, the hardest parts are ... get into crystal ball, Dorothy rescue multi ball (I also moved the castle post but it seems not helping much).
I really love this game.
I am thinking to get a preowned The Hobbit because I am not satisfied with just one pinball machine

Quoted from bobukcat:

Funny you say that because I have a better chance of Melting the Witch than making that cradled backhand flip to the Crystal Ball. Not that I get to Melt her often but I have a really hard time getting two balls cradled on the left and when I do I always miss the CB shot.

Quoted from bobukcat:

Yeah, never meant to imply that the shot's not doable for most people - it just isn't for me. Then again I'm more of a flail like crazy multiball player, I have a horrible habit of looking at the balls that are up the playfield and subsequently drilling them with a ball from the flippers.

Quoted from hocuslocus:

I'd like to finish this game someday, so I can move on to another long game like LOTR or pirates. Who knows maybe it'll never happen , but I'm gonna keep trying damnit!!

Quoted from Soulrider911:

Need your input fellow WOZ owners. I have have gone back and forth about getting one for over a year and finally going to do it. I have 2 great options near me:
1) ECLE - 2015 older boards around 800 plays seller asking 8250
2) Ruby Red 2017 model, flawless 250 plays seller asking 9000.
Both seem high on price what would you guys recommend ? Both machine and price thank you!

Quoted from Soulrider911:

Thanks for all the input guys, so the lowest he will go on the ECLE is 7500. I’d be willing to do it for 7250
Question, where can I get a nib for 9k?? If I could find that price I’d be all about it... cheapest I have seen is 9500+shipping

Quoted from coz6:

Finally made it to the Melt The Witch mini mode had it for just as long as the ball save lasts zero hits a quick death but finally starting to make some progress on this game - the darn rescue multiple mode is definitely my weekness on getting there practice practice practice - what a min rush

Quoted from Soulrider911:

Hey guys anyone have a recommendation on the best dealer to order a woz RR from? The best price I have found is 9500.00 + shipping from automated. But I keep hearing I can get one for 9k but where?