Always the headphone volume was linked to the main volume.

I am newer owner of an ECLE and absolutely LOVE the game. The one "thing" that has happened a few times that puzzles me is that when I have multiball and a couple of balls get sent to the castle VUK area, the Winkie target resets (raises up), one ball is sent to the upper playfield, but the other ball rolls down against the back of the Winkie target. When I finally loose one ball, the other is still stuck until the machine cycles through and fires all of the coils to "find" the lost ball ... the Winkie target finally drops, releases the ball, and then all is back to normal. Does this happen to others ... is there a "fix" or is this just a minor quirk with this machine?

It happens. Nothing to fix.

Thanks, good to know, does not happen frequently anyway

yea maybe. My headphone jack doesn't look like that. And mine does not go loud enough.

I actually dont remember the headphone volume coming up on the screen either. Maybe I overlooked it.

On the original games, the headphone volume has led light indicators, in the upper right corner of the coin door, by pushing the button.

You can raise the volume up or down. It doesnt indicate on the screen, however main volume affects the headphone volume.

Cranking up the game volume will raise the headphone volume.

Im using a headphone amplifier because I didnt like the disparity between the loud game volume and the headphone volume.

I would rather leave the game volume alone and just adjust the headphone amp.

One of the buttons mutes the game speakers.

You can also get headphones with volume adjustment on them.

A headphone amplifier will also give you gain adjustment if you get that feature on it.

Big powerful headphones might need amplification if they dont gave a gain feature.

Yes, i have the same volume jack with the LED indicators as well like you mention. But, what exactly is the point of cranking up the machine volume while using the headphones? Wouldnt the point of headphones be so that you turn down the actual game volume so others dont hear it?

The headphones I have do have a volume setting but again, still dont go high enough.. Close, but not enough.

Yes, you advised me on the headphone amplifier the other day but it would just be so much easier to do it in game somehow.

you mute the game speakers by hitting the mute button.

Oddly the insertion of the headphone into the game does not automatically mute the game speakers like on other equipment

Also the game does not save the coin door settings if you power down the game.

So, use the coin door mute button if using headphones.

Ok, so let me get this straight..

The trick is, to jack up the game volume, then mute it and the headphones should be where I want them.. essentially?

If thats true, it sounds like horrible programming for the headphones lol.

It "is" what it is...

While muted, the inside door volume control will give you more control than the up and down button on the outside volume adjustment control.

Deal with it or get a headphone amp.

I bought an amp. But I wanted more bass as well as gain.

haha i hear ya. Thanks.

Another question just to understand. So, with the headphones plugged in, I can increase the headphone volume, using the volume controls inside the machine, while muted.?

yes, try it.

Will do. Thanks again for the help.

Are you saying that the volume up and down buttons above the headphone jack have no affect?
I find that they are sufficient and produce plenty of volume.

I have pretty good Sennheiser phones but still I wanted a bit more bass.

Both the inside AND outside volume adjustments have an effect. So what's being said is that if you are maxed out on the outside controls and your headphone volume is still too low, just open the door and increase the game volume with the inside buttons. Just remember that when you unmute it may be loud as heck.

this is very true.

More on this issue here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/woz-low-headphone-volume

Again, I bought a headphone amp and all is well in the world.

I move it from game to game and never adjust the games main volumes.

I have Sennheiser phones also. My headphone jack volume is maxed out..

Yes, this is my issue.. And yes, I will have to remember to turn it back down lol

On my WOZ RR the headphone volume also controls the main volume when headphones are not plugged in. And, the audio only goes through the headphones when they're plugged in... it doesn't also go through the pinball games speakers. It's automatically muted. I guess JJP fixed their headphone design in the 2019 re-release?

Thats how my Wonka works, but not my WOZ.. Assuming you have a newer build?

And you are correct, its stupid to have it play audio from the cabinet as well as the headphones.

yes my rr woz was made in 2019

Still have a few left. Fill that dead space up top.

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Owners that have the 75th topper - are there holes on the bottom so it stays locked in? Haven’t installed the one I just got yet but it doesn’t. Is that normal?

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Yes there are holes. It looks like yours is cut short by a quarter of an inch or so at the bottom.

So I’ve never seen this before. For the life of me, I can’t get these nuts off of these black screws. I’ve installed this fire pot mod 4 times and never seen this.

I can hold the nuts and I can turn the screws to the left. Screw is moving fine and the nut not going anywhere. Problem is the nut doesn’t come off. I tried the opposite way, sprayed wd40, still nothing

Anyone have any suggestions on getting these screws out? After an hour and a half I’ve given up

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The threads are stripped on the cheap black screws.
It happens a lot on the low grade chinese "soft" steel.

You need to pry up on the screw or the nut while turning to get to a new thread.

I usually force my small diagonals (or micro flush cutter) under the screw head or the nut while turning the screw and hold the nut with a nut driver.
In this case I would try the diagonals under the nut as it will hold it from turning maybe.

Yes it looks like it takes 3 hands, but maybe not.

You can also dremel it off but it might melt everything (not advised at all!!!)

Hack saw

Put a wet paper towel on the inside, on the backside of the nut.

Slice it through the center vertically, with a dremel fiberglass wheel, to cut the nuts into 2 halves?

Using diagonals has never failed me though.

Just clamp those nuts with vice grips on the back and use the correct nut driver on the front to break them loose. Replace the damaged nuts, if necessary. Be careful not to scratch or break the plastic

Screws are stripped in the nuts.

Maybe use needle vise grip to lock onto the nut, to pull on it while turning the screw.

Tried with needle nose players to hold it but didn’t work. It’s so small hard to get a bigger grip. Do you think it’s best to do it that way (grip it and pull away while turning the screw the opposite way)? I guess I’ll try that first method which sounds like I push up on the screw or nut while turning screws and holding that nut.

Worst case, bust out the Dremel with carbon fiber cutoff wheel. Will slice through those nuts like butter. Be ultra careful as a Dremel can easily take your finger off

Yes, I think thats the best approach.

Using diagonals, with their angled cutting edges, works the best for me, as it puts continuous pressure in an upward motion to try to get a new thread started.

Plus, you can lean into it with the tool to get a little more upwards pressure.

The only pliers I can think to use are the Vampliers.
https://www.amazon.com/Professional-International-Vampliers-Portable-Extraction/dp/B006YJKAPQ

It may also get hot, melt the plastic and slip and ruin the artwork if not extremely careful.
Tape everything with 2 or 3 layers of masking tape in case of slips.

Thanks guys! I’ll try it out. In the meantime, I was going to buy new screws and nuts. Seem extremely small and in the past I’ve gone to big stores like Home Depot and they don’t have it.

Anyone have the exact size of the screw and bolt Bc I’ll order now.

Needle nose vise grips are another option, you can really clamp them on and then twist / pry the nut outward while turning the screw. I've had a really small pair for decades and they come in really handy for stuff like this.

Should a WOZ Ruby Red reset in terms of lifetime plays with a code update? Manufactured in 2017. Thanks for the assistance.

Yes.

Backup your settings and scores before doing any updates.

Its quick and easy. I back up my scores every time I beat them.

Having a strange issue with my WoZ. I can turn on game, it boots up, goes into attract mode. I cannot toggle through attract mode with flippers, I also cannot start a game. Every time I hit start, nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas?

Check connectors in cabinet, by coin door, and near boards. One may have come loose and needs to be reseated.

Cool I’ll do that. I can’t even use the test menu buttons in coin door. Something must be loose.

Anyone hear any updates on new 2.0 lightboard kits? Were supposed to be coming sometime this month.

No, and I asked someone to look into this at TPF with no answer.

Does Anyone know the exact size of that screw and bolt that holds the wizard by the saucer? Need to buy extra and I know it’s very very small

You speaking of the Oz Head, the two screws and nuts that hold the acrylic piece to the bracket? If so 4-40 x1/2" HWS MS, black (Part# 80-2104-08)

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Just wanted to give a quick thumbs-up to Ericpinballfan , I snagged one of the WOZ "Professor Marvel" magnetic plaques that goes between the upper speakers on the backbox, and it looks great. I realized my Wonka has a similar "Jersey Jack Pinball" plaque in the same location, so it is a fun way to fill that blank space (lord knows I can't stand having a square inch on the machine that isn't decked out somehow LOL). Truly is as easy as "installing" a fridge magnet, you just pop it up there.

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Any ECLE owners install the 75th anniversary topper? Just realized the ecle prob has green and orange led for the stock topper so curious how that will look.