I bought this Automated edition in January and it came with 2.0 lighting system,invisiglass,shaker,topper, green armor and green wire forms.

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So are these 50 green automated versions, out of the 1000 standard? Which seems to be the most rare already? And is there a way we could call the standard the Tin Man edition if I add chrome coin door ?

Stainless armour, stainless door, silver mirror blades, chrome wire forms, silver power coated apron.
Tin funnel topper, with the omitted tinmans revolver lol.

Minor software tweak.

I can see this! And it'll be awsome!

Tin Man edition. Trademark it quick before Jack does!

So the ecle is in the house and it's probably the nicest Pinball machine I've ever seen. As a previous RR owner, this really takes it over the top with the green and wood apron. I'm also a sucker for the topper. The wizard and the fire really had an impact on me when I watched this as a kid... Loved that part.

Although I still don't think it's an amazing shooter, it has enough variety in there and the sounds, music, voices and video clips really are the best jjp has done period. The lighting in this game is pure magic. It's amazing how jjp pulled this game off game 1. Their ability to tell a story and make you feel like you are part of the oz world is crazy. World under glass for sure and it has me shaking my head even more thinking about how Wonka turned out and what it could have been if jjp was still OG JJP.... But then again they might not be in business if they kept that up!

I also never saw the direct print cab in person before buying this version. Wow. Simply wow. It really is a shame they don't do direct print anymore. Gorgeous. This game must have blown people's minds in 2013.
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I firmly believe that the ECLE is by far the best looking woz. Of course, I like my mods on pinballs too...and there are sone great mods for it. Are you planning on doing any modifications?

You guys are killing me. I wanted an ECLE so badly but could only find a RR at the time. If it didn't greatly affect the value I'd love to combine a RR and ECLE. But, I should mention I'm working on apron art for the RR (one of the only things I feel like was cheaped out here). I also had a SE direct print and it was cool but not a huge difference from the rad cals. I think the rad cals are probably "tougher" than the print, maybe this has been discussed elsewhere. They seem like an upgrade to POTC so I would assume they are somewhat better? Either way, both look awesome.

Def:
mirrors
throne mod

Maybe:
Guard Light
Balloon Light
Tornado (although it blocks the back right corner oz area)...

Prob won't though (3 above). This game is SO loaded I've seen so many overload it and it's just too much.

Thanks por posting WildBill .... indeed it looks amazing! that green looks so nice

If anyone is interested I posted my mega WOZ lighting kit for sale. It has more lighting than any other kit, full RGB independent control of the backboard and trough lighting, double illuminated trough lighting for even brighter options, fully dimmable LED strips and a selection of white and purple bulbs to adjust the spotlights to your liking. Fully plug and play, remove a few nuts, run a few wires, etc. Has the option for the flickering flame in the TNPLH hot air balloon as well.

https://pinballmods.co/WOZ-mega-lighting-upgrade-kit-jjp

Flickering flame balloon mod
https://pinballmods.co/WOZ-flickering-flame-balloon-JJP

never realized how dark this game is compared to later releases. Added 3 spotligts… it helps, but could use like 10 more. To bad the game would look kind of stupid with that many.

it'd be nice if they had some type of lantern light.. similar to a spotlight. No idea how you'd implement it but.
yes I am aware of pinstadium, but taking them off every time I raise the playfield kills that idea for me.

Pinstadium blows there lighting on this way out. Kills the fact that there are supposed to be darker areas. I think 7 spots does it. I'm actually working on spotlight hiders. Stay tuned.

Thanks for the post. Easy to understand and the most amazing thing is that they still use such ancient technic.

Are you counting the factory spots in that 7 count?

JJP Art Blades are simply beautiful...

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Is it a Translite or a Mirrored Backglass?

can you buys those sep? Can you take a top down full pic

I bought the YBR version for my RR from pingraffix.

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Hmm I was going mirrors but those look good ....

Hi Delt, I tried to take some pics from top down but attached are closer ones and those look much better...

... I think that we have the same ones Avspin

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It is a Translite Eric.

Knowing that the YBR it is not a Collector’s, I must say that honestly JJP did a great job with these upgrades. So far the only thing that I did it was to put some wood look alike in that small spot to cover the white ceiling, I don’t know if all of the versions came with that white space...
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No. 7 additional spots.

2 on each sling, 2 to the bottom right of the haunted forest and one to the left of the crystal ball.

That's interesting! I wish someone would make a replacement for those huts. A nice molded piece that covers more of the ball lock and diverter.

Those are really nice kits!

I'm thinking a more post apocalyptic hut area.

Something that looks like the witch attacked it and it's a smoking ruin.

As far as a lantern light, The Mod Couple make a great one for the castle playfield: https://themodcouplepinball.com/collections/the-wizard-of-oz-jjp/products/the-wizard-of-oz-castle-lantern-custom-spot-lamp-mod

But if you add spots elsewhere, that does not really work for you. Pinstadiums just came out with the Hover mounting system which does not require you to take it off when you raise the playfield now. So that problem has been resolved. They are still a matter of personal taste though. While some say they are too bright, I don't have a problem with them as I adjusted the brightness and color so it does not wash everything out. Again, people either seem to love them or hate them. But the mounting system has been resolved (for an additional charge though...).

We are actually working on a "lantern" design for PoTC which may be able to be adapted to WoZ. The consideration is that we are customizing how spotlights are laid out to be able to fit the socket and bulb in a smaller package. Taking some trial and error but I think we'll have something viable soon.

That's a lot of ugly damn spot lights cluttering up a beautiful game IMO.

Wow, $11.5K and it's a translite instead of an actual backglass like the ECLE and RR have?? This hits keep coming on this version.

The only really visible ones are the ones on the slings. The left one by the CB is hidden and the ones in front of the forest are somewhat inconspicuous. I do agree that I wish there was a better visual solution, which I guess pin stadium fits that bill. It's pretty much what manufacturers also do these days, JJP POTC has the large spots hanging out. I want to figure out a disguise for these with something game related. We are working on shrinking down the necessary size for a spotlight "head" so we can more attractively package them. If anyone has ideas for what kind of themed element could work as a vertical mast and "boxy" head (for the bulbs) I'm open to suggestions. We are making a pirate flag for POTC near the ship which will hide a LED panel (instead of a spot) which makes it flat. We can do the same for WoZ but I really want to leave the option to replace bulbs.

Does anyone know if the main castle door mech changed at all? I was hearing all over that there would be one door, but the game I played had two. I am wondering if it was engineered differently at all. I guess I could go look at the updated manual to see.

YBR has a screened backglass like the others have - granted I've only seen three total units but they all did. It's that way in the system and the manual also.

There are optos for hit detection so that changed. There are still two double doors and the single door is now pretty much a decoration.

That makes more sense.

Nice! That would solve a lot of issues I imagine. The toughest time I had was aligning those switches and springs. Now for the million dollar question... are those easily retrofittable? Meaning are parts possibly bought to screw those in and have them work or is there more control that has to happen on the I/O that prior versions aren't setup for? I have no problems currently, but just curious.

Good question - and by that I mean I don't really know - a little research is needed.

Cool, I figured that probably wasn't a very popular need/question. I doubt many people get as deep in to that as I did. I'm going to study the manual a bit.

I took out the boring Free Play card and put in a custom one. I think it looks much better.

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Is there a manual for the YBR and Wonka? Can't find it on the JJP website.

Thanks. I'm going to buy those instead of mirrors. they look great

YBR is incorporated into the regular WOZ manual. Wonka not yet.

Thank you!

Good thing I was too lazy to buy the $100 manual a ways back.

It would be a $100 boat anchor now with all the updates...

Yes indeed, you’re absolutely right! Thank you for the clarification.

Just curious. I enjoy playing a JJPPOTC SE at a friends house way more than I like playing the games I have anymore. With WOZ being widebody also with lots of cool features....and no friend with one, or a place to play one anywhere near me(I did not look at the map, but I pretty much know not much near me, and sad, Atlanta is a major city), is this game so awesome that I just have to try to buy one myself, or does the rocking ship and all of the other features POTC has make WOZ kind of old news? I have never seen one or played one, but POTC is so awesome and I have been reading all about WOZ and I just think I want one. Thanks for your opinions.

Also, I looked at the POTC and it has a born on date of 3/6/19. I did not see any cracking or chipping except at the base of the Malestorm ramp. On the right side of the ramp it looks like the paint has flaked. When in the light the right way I could see dimples all over the playfield. And my friend thought I was a nut for looking at the game with reading glasses on, but I was just making sure there was nothing really major like a sling post about to collapse. All the post areas looked perfect.

I have both games. I love them both. I wouldn't hesitate to have both again and I think they compliment each other. I don't think WOZ has lost any of it's cool factor based on POTC coming out. JJP is by far my favorite manufacturer and I'd have all their games if I had room and money. You can't go wrong with either game. If I had a choice of only one, I'd get WOZ first.

Don't worry about the dimples, very common and smooth out over time. The chipping/cracking is the major issue with the game and it's still a bit up in the air as we have a few posts active right now discussing it. JJP has released both a "kit" to help with the chipping around the posts and an offer for a discounted playfield for those with chipping.

Being this is the WOZ club you'll want to move your further questions to the POTC club https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jjp-pirates-of-the-caribbean-official-owners-and-fan-club

In short and IMHO, yes. I would say though that it would help to love the theme. The game is all that much more special b/c our entire family loves the theme. Even if you only like the theme, WOZ offers so much of an entire package and if you’re only a mediocre player like me, it will take months, possibly even years to make your way through the game. I take a break from her now and then, but I would say I don’t ever get bored playing WOZ.

Period.

People will always bash what they can’t have or don’t agree with, but all that is just white noise if you like what you have. The YBR WOZ is a beautiful piece of pinball art just like all the others. Seems like you might have room for a few more... what’s your next pin on your radar.

Well it turned out you were wrong about it being a translite instead of a backglass and that's what my comment was on so maybe cool your roll there buddy. If you feel the need to justify your purchases that's fine but I don't feel any pain about this model, however commenting on it on a forum specific to WOZ seems pretty reasonable. I didn't call your baby ugly.

Visible ball locks are very nice.