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#6351 1 year ago

Using a few 7.5v boards on a 5v machine is okay. No harm done. The thing you cannot do is go the other way - if you run 5v boards in a 7.5v game they will work for a short while, then fail.

#6352 1 year ago
Quoted from Prienovich:

Hello
I have a Eclewoz, with a not working motherboard.
Does anyone know if I can just buy a similar MSI H61M-P31/W8 motherboard and install without problems?
The reason for my question is that on my original motherboard there is a label with a number corresponding to the number on the label of the usb stick. Does this mean that the original motherboard is unique and cannot easily be replaced?
Sorry if i missed any existing threads on this subject

The motherboard is not unique, any suitable/similar replacement will work.
If in doubt, or lack the knowledge, order a replacement from JJP.

The usb stick is unique, and must be in place to run the JJP operating system.

#6353 1 year ago
Quoted from Palmer:

So 6800 is
pretty good for a Standard edition? Jus want to make sure you are not talking about ECLE and I am comparing apples to apples.
Thanks!

I think so.

#6354 1 year ago
Quoted from jasonbar:

Sounds weird, so I wanted to confirm w/ the experts here before I plug it in & power it up.

It will work fine.

LTG : )

#6355 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

The motherboard is not unique, any suitable/similar replacement will work.
If in doubt, or lack the knowledge, order a replacement from JJP.
The usb stick is unique, and must be in place to run the JJP operating system.

I seem to recall JJP tweaking the bios for boot up which will be different with an off the shelf PC. I don’t, however, recall the details.

#6356 1 year ago
Quoted from DANGERTERROR:

I seem to recall JJP tweaking the bios for boot up which will be different with an off the shelf PC. I don’t, however, recall the details.

They did not reprogram the BIOS.

Since the OS is Linux it requires no drivers, and its not hardware specific at all.

Any of the similar MSI I3 or I5 mainboards will work, like a H81m-P33 as long as you have the regular features the game needs and it fits well enough in the cabinet.

Any BIOS settings you will have to adjust using a USB keyboard anyway.

WOZ and TH mainboards are interchangeable. Personally I would use an I5 processor for a little better performance, but its not necessary.

#6357 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

The motherboard is not unique, any suitable/similar replacement will work.
If in doubt, or lack the knowledge, order a replacement from JJP.
The usb stick is unique, and must be in place to run the JJP operating system.

Thank you.
I would have ordered a replacement if it was not out of stock, and I would also not bother you here if Jersey Jack had reacted to my support request(4 weeks ago) or my email 3 weeks ago.
My game is located in a public place and I am a little embarrassed to leave it standing there not working for a month already.

The story is
One evening the power supply board went up i smoke due to the well known weakness(that I did not know of at the time). It burned a hole in the board under the L9 inductor.
I bought a replacement at a local distributor and installed it, only to find out that damage had also been done to the motherboard.
As it is not available by JJP i bought a replacement motherboard elsewhere. I took RAM, processor and fan from the defect board and put in the new board.
Fan is running but nothing else happens. No bios.

Maybe the processor was fried at the same time, so I guess my next step is to get a new processor.
I could ofcourse try the RAM first but my feeling says processor.

#6358 1 year ago
Quoted from Prienovich:

Thank you.
I would have ordered a replacement if it was not out of stock, and I would also not bother you here if Jersey Jack had reacted to my support request(4 weeks ago) or my email 3 weeks ago.
My game is located in a public place and I am a little embarrassed to leave it standing there not working for a month already.
The story is
One evening the power supply board went up i smoke due to the well known weakness(that I did not know of at the time). It burned a hole in the board under the L9 inductor.
I bought a replacement at a local distributor and installed it, only to find out that damage had also been done to the motherboard.
As it is not available by JJP i bought a replacement motherboard elsewhere. I took RAM, processor and fan from the defect board and put in the new board.
Fan is running but nothing else happens. No bios.
Maybe the processor was fried at the same time, so I guess my next step is to get a new processor.
I could ofcourse try the RAM first but my feeling says processor.

Generally CPU does not go bad.

I would check my power supply and connections.

If in doubt, pull the mainboard out.

Put it on a worktable, plug in a monitor, keyboard and mouse.

Plug in a standard ATX power supply, briefly jumper the power switch pins.

It should boot to the cmos.

If not, troubleshoot from there it's easier than in the game.

Clear the cmos by jumper or removing battery.

Bad RAM will keep it from booting, so put them in one at a time.

#6359 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

They did not reprogram the BIOS.
Since the OS is Linux it requires no drivers, and its not hardware specific at all.
Any of the similar MSI I3 or I5 mainboards will work, like a H81m-P33 as long as you have the regular features the game needs and it fits well enough in the cabinet.
Any BIOS settings you will have to adjust using a USB keyboard anyway.
WOZ and TH mainboards are interchangeable. Personally I would use an I5 processor for a little better performance, but its not necessary.

Anybody know what MOBO they are putting in the latest WOZ builds? Looking for a MOBO to use that is still in production and available new for a reasonable price.

#6360 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Generally CPU does not go bad.
I would check my power supply and connections.
If in doubt, pull the mainboard out.
Put it on a worktable, plug in a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Plug in a standard ATX power supply, briefly jumper the power switch pins.
It should boot to the cmos.
If not, troubleshoot from there it's easier than in the game.
Clear the cmos by jumper or removing battery.
Bad RAM will keep it from booting, so put them in one at a time.

Wow you just saved me a ton of problems. Been fighting a dead woz for a bit finally after your post I looked at the ram and yup I unseated it trying to fix a power issue that you might have told me to get a tester for an sure enough tons of pain for a stupid loose connection thanks pinside!

#6361 1 year ago

Woz won't boot and you don't get the back glass lights look to me before tearing into your problems.

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#6362 1 year ago
Quoted from coz6:

Woz won't boot and you don't get the back glass lights look to me before tearing into your problems.
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Yeah, check every single connector. They gotta be inserted all the way, and straight!

#6363 1 year ago

Anybody have advice on fixing my Wicked Witch? It doesn't raise all the way up.

In test, it appears to bind going up, but I can assist it with a little push with my finger. It just won't do it on its own

I think the metal rod that slides through the motor is the issue. It looks mostly straight. That rod is flimsy and not easy to make perfectly straight.

The issue could also be the motor is weak and if it were stronger it would work past the section where it gets caught. The motor seems strong enough though.

Any advice appreciated.

#6364 1 year ago

Make sure the witch isn’t touching anything as she travels up and down, and the rod needs to be straight as a arrow - from what I remember you can remove the witch from the shaft with 2 screws... maybe try that to see if the rod works by itself

#6365 1 year ago
Quoted from RTS:

Anybody have advice on fixing my Wicked Witch? It doesn't raise all the way up.
In test, it appears to bind going up, but I can assist it with a little push with my finger. It just won't do it on its own
I think the metal rod that slides through the motor is the issue. It looks mostly straight. That rod is flimsy and not easy to make perfectly straight.
The issue could also be the motor is weak and if it were stronger it would work past the section where it gets caught. The motor seems strong enough though.
Any advice appreciated.

I'd recommend cleaning the rod to clean off any gunk or dried up grease and then apply a thin layer of lightweight lithium grease, then run her up and down a few times and see if that resolves the issue. The same can happen with the drive shaft for the monkey.

#6366 1 year ago

Thanks for the suggestions. I removed the witch and used some white lithium grease and kept bending it slightly until I got it working.

It really took forever to show any consistency. It would work 10 times and then get stuck on the 11th. I think if I sneeze it may stop working. But for now it's been steady. Thanks for the help!

#6367 1 year ago
Quoted from RTS:

Thanks for the suggestions. I removed the witch and used some white lithium grease and kept bending it slightly until I got it working.
It really took forever to show any consistency. It would work 10 times and then get stuck on the 11th. I think if I sneeze it may stop working. But for now it's been steady. Thanks for the help!

This is exactly how its adjusted and maintained!
It can be a bit sensitive but, once its working its pretty stable.

#6368 1 year ago

Does anybody who has pinstadiums have a good picture of how to connect the GI lights I have tried a few times with the company but I just don't understand - I have them on but they don't interact with the game very well thanks

#6369 1 year ago
Quoted from coz6:

Does anybody who has pinstadiums have a good picture of how to connect the GI lights I have tried a few times with the company but I just don't understand - I have them on but they don't interact with the game very well thanks

What light board set are you on, 2.0 or <2.0?

#6370 1 year ago
Quoted from coz6:

Does anybody who has pinstadiums have a good picture of how to connect the GI lights I have tried a few times with the company but I just don't understand - I have them on but they don't interact with the game very well thanks

At least on my ECLE, the lights stay on the entire time due to the way the game was wired and your limited choice of what to tap into. I have 7.5 buffered boards but I was told it's the physical game version itself that limits your ability... mine goes into the Wizard LED and can't go into any of the little GI boards. However, I do have a 2.0 kit I'm installing the next time something goes out, and that should make it more interactive. Happy enough to have the GI boost, make a big difference and I have them set pretty low so it's still dynamic feeling. But yeah, would be cool if the game would go dark sometimes.

#6371 1 year ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

At least on my ECLE, the lights stay on the entire time due to the way the game was wired and your limited choice of what to tap into. I have 7.5 buffered boards but I was told it's the physical game version itself that limits your ability... mine goes into the Wizard LED and can't go into any of the little GI boards. However, I do have a 2.0 kit I'm installing the next time something goes out, and that should make it more interactive. Happy enough to have the GI boost, make a big difference and I have them set pretty low so it's still dynamic feeling. But yeah, would be cool if the game would go dark sometimes.

Did you try tapping the GI control into the red and black wires on the little GI LED board in the very back right corner of the playfield?

#6372 1 year ago

This is the video for pinstadium for woz rr with 2.0

#6373 1 year ago
Quoted from monte_:

This is the video for pinstadium for woz rr with 2.0

That is very similar to my non-2.0 install.

#6374 1 year ago
Quoted from bobukcat:

Did you try tapping the GI control into the red and black wires on the little GI LED board in the very back right corner of the playfield?

Scott told me that was a bad idea, you'll note the multiple versions of Woz installs on the pin stadium page. Seeing how testy the lighting system is I'm definitely not willing to try haha.

#6375 1 year ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Scott told me that was a bad idea, you'll note the multiple versions of Woz installs on the pin stadium page. Seeing how testy the lighting system is I'm definitely not willing to try haha.

Hmm, must have something to do with the older system. I've not really read through all of those but if Scott said it's a bad idea on your game I certainly believe him.

#6376 1 year ago

Prior to 2.0 thanks all for the pointers I'll give it a try again

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#6377 1 year ago
Quoted from coz6:

Prior to 2.0 thanks all for the pointers I'll give it a try again

I just bought a set for my WOZ ECLE on Black Friday and Scott told me that he is sending a special connector with it for WOZ only … not sure if that connector is meant for the flasher or the GI. It's in the mail and I haven't received it yet.

#6378 1 year ago
Quoted from KingBW:

I just bought a set for my WOZ ECLE on Black Friday and Scott told me that he is sending a special connector with it for WOZ only … not sure if that connector is meant for the flasher or the GI. It's in the mail and I haven't received it yet.

Keep us in touch, I'm considering getting a set but I don't want it to be on permanently, lights out mode plays great because all lights are out (except the throne room, and I still hope it gets fixed on the next code), same with TNPLH although It feels they changed the way the playfield used to turn Sepia, which was really impressive.

#6379 1 year ago
Quoted from monte_:

This is the video for pinstadium for woz rr with 2.0

Thanks for sharing!

It looks like you still have a Styrofoam shipping block in there

#6380 1 year ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

Scott told me that was a bad idea, you'll note the multiple versions of Woz installs on the pin stadium page. Seeing how testy the lighting system is I'm definitely not willing to try haha.

Quoted from KingBW:

I just bought a set for my WOZ ECLE on Black Friday and Scott told me that he is sending a special connector with it for WOZ only … not sure if that connector is meant for the flasher or the GI. It's in the mail and I haven't received it yet.

Quoted from adol75:

Keep us in touch, I'm considering getting a set but I don't want it to be on permanently, lights out mode plays great because all lights are out (except the throne room, and I still hope it gets fixed on the next code), same with TNPLH although It feels they changed the way the playfield used to turn Sepia, which was really impressive.

Rather then getting this off topic, see my linked review of the Pinstadiums from their thread and the constructive responses and tips from Scott about it. It seems that they would function better with the 2.0 light boards. Note some of the other people's similar opinions. I love them on my AS and DI.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/new-pin-stadium-lights-official-announcement/page/71#post-4730370

Now to order a new light board, the big one in the center with the swirl that went bad. Ugh!

#6381 1 year ago

I'm still searching for a quality shooter rod for my WOZ RR. The colored balls I've seen don't impress me like the gold shooter ring on Hobbit or the Aztec coin on POTC. What are other WOZ owners using for custom shooter rods on their games? I just want to replace the plain black shooter knob with something that blends with the game and isn't tacky. Suggestions?

#6382 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

I'm still searching for a quality shooter rod for my WOZ RR. The colored balls I've seen don't impress me like the gold shooter ring on Hobbit or the Aztec coin on POTC. What are other WOZ owners using for custom shooter rods on their games? I just want to replace the plain black shooter knob with something that blends with the game and isn't tacky. Suggestions?

I bought the rod and housing from Chrome Candy because I think it matches the trim better than the one from Modfather but it's still not perfect. I believe the Chrome Candy folks have released a new color that matches better now but I haven't seen it in person so I can't vouch for it. If you do get theirs make sure you put in a much stronger shooter spring with it.

#6383 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

I'm still searching for a quality shooter rod for my WOZ RR. The colored balls I've seen don't impress me like the gold shooter ring on Hobbit or the Aztec coin on POTC. What are other WOZ owners using for custom shooter rods on their games? I just want to replace the plain black shooter knob with something that blends with the game and isn't tacky. Suggestions?

Why not go for color changing!

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#6384 1 year ago
Quoted from capguntrooper:

Why not go for color changing!
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That looks awesome....I have the same one, but it turns green (I have an ECLE)

#6385 1 year ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

That looks awesome....I have the same one, but it turns green (I have an ECLE)

mine rotates slowly through a bunch of colors

#6386 1 year ago
Quoted from capguntrooper:

mine rotates slowly through a bunch of colors

Awesome !

#6387 1 year ago
Quoted from capguntrooper:

Why not go for color changing!
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That looks fantastic, where can one purchase this shooter rod? The color changing effect would fit perfectly with this game.

#6388 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

That looks fantastic, where can one purchase this shooter rod? The color changing effect would fit perfectly with this game.

Shoot, I will have to look around, but I got it from another pinsider

#6389 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

That looks fantastic, where can one purchase this shooter rod? The color changing effect would fit perfectly with this game.

BladeFury is the pinsider I got it from

#6390 1 year ago
Quoted from capguntrooper:

BladeFury is the pinsider I got it from

Thanks for the lead, I'll contact BladeFury directly regarding the color changing shooter. Much better than a plain black knob or painted ball

#6391 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

Thanks for the lead, I'll contact BladeFury directly regarding the color changing shooter. Much better than a plain black knob or painted ball

I'm not sure where mine came from? I bought the game from the original owner....at the time of purchase he told me they were hard to find...mine doesn't color change....its green to match ECLE colors...

#6392 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

Thanks for the lead, I'll contact BladeFury directly regarding the color changing shooter. Much better than a plain black knob or painted ball

AAAAAAAAAND here ya go. Cointaker sells em. https://cointaker.com/products/led-lit-shooter-rods

#6393 1 year ago

Thank you good Sir. Will order one up for the Ruby Red, does that shooter work on JJP games? The description doesn't indicate so.

#6394 1 year ago
Quoted from darkryder:

Thank you good Sir. Will order one up for the Ruby Red, does that shooter work on JJP games? The description doesn't indicate so.

Its the exact one I got from the fellow pinsider. Just make sure the housing is grounded by moving the silver bare wire ground down to the shooter housing

#6395 1 year ago

All/LTG

Anyone know the voltage for the throne room led strip?

If so, anyone try to replace it with a strip from say Comet.

Physically about the same size, Comet leds may be too bright but willing to experiment if I can get the voltage.

Would order from JJP but frankly they do not last (on my second in two years with very modest play) and the shipping is absurdly high.

Thanks,

#6396 1 year ago
Quoted from 1quartershort:

Anyone know the voltage for the throne room led strip?

12 volts

LTG : )

#6397 1 year ago
Quoted from 1quartershort:

All/LTG
Anyone know the voltage for the throne room led strip?
If so, anyone try to replace it with a strip from say Comet.
Physically about the same size, Comet leds may be too bright but willing to experiment if I can get the voltage.
Would order from JJP but frankly they do not last (on my second in two years with very modest play) and the shipping is absurdly high.
Thanks,

12 volts. If you are a little handy you can buy a 25 foot green LED strip from amazon or ebay for about $13 and make your own replacement.

#6398 1 year ago
Quoted from DCFAN:

12 volts. If you are a little handy you can buy a 25 foot green LED strip from amazon or ebay for about $13 and make your own replacement.

Maybe get color changing!

#6399 1 year ago

Thanks all

I will post what I come up with and how it works.

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