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I would keep bugging JJP or go through your distributor for resolution. I had a big problem with my cabinet on my Hobbit Smaug. When I brought it to JJP's attention they basically shrugged it off, which of course was very frustrating....after several emails, and phone calls, we came to an equitable resolution. My distributor played a big role in getting this done.

Hi guys, I'm back in the club. I had a standard a couple years ago and mad a couple trades to get a Smaug Edition Hobbit. I just never found another game like WOZ over the years and managed to trade my Hobbit for a RRWOZ

My question is, "Did these machines always come with the printed manuals?" The person I received my game from said they never received one. I wonder if JJP has a record of this if they were sending them out after the fact or something?

Thanks for the tips.

Regarding the monkey not picking up the ball because the ball wasn’t captured:

This is normal, the switch sequence that tells the game that a ball is heading that way can be triggered by a ball that almost makes it up the orbit but just shy of the magnet. The monkey sequence still happens and you are still awarded a capture. Just pinball being pinball.

No version of WOZ included the printed manual in the price. It has always been an add on.
Of course there are always exceptions and the WOZ manual is no different. Apparently at some shows the manual was being used as an inducement to buy, but that was a 'show' only deal.

Since the initial printing the manual has been updated and I haven't heard that an updated version was printed. The PDF version is very good especially if you can display it on a decent sized monitor. I used the pdf version displayed on a 60" monitor when I recently upgraded my light system to 2.0 and I never referred to the printed manual I bought. Being able to search the manual to find what I was looking for was very quick and efficient. Don't get me wrong I love my printed manual. Not to mention it makes a great coffee table book too. It is just beautiful.

My RR WOZ came with the printed manual. Build date on my machine was 12/14/17.

Thanks for the reply,maybe it goes on my birthday wish list. I remember seeing a post somewhere that had these manuals marked down. Maybe Joe at Pinball star?
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Mine did not.

The plot thickens:

Did you buy from a distributor or at a show?

Joe @pinballstar ,
Can you comment on manuals being shipped with WOZ(es)? is this something that makes you the best disti in the biz or are all the cool kids doing it?

If you like, I be willing to ship you the parts to help you replace the haunted forest red led light for free. The only part I don't have is this: amazon.com link » You should be able to repin the molex connector to the replacement light. Again on my machine, the led never worked, as was not wired correctly at the JJP factory. So I just went ahead and built a new wiring harness and replaced the red led light with it.

1. Use the following guide to adjust the magnet: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/woz-check-list

2. No, there are no stock led lights in the haunted forest trees. This is a mod for the game.

I also purchased mine NIB from Joe at Pinball Star. Was shipped direct from JJP.

My RRWOZ came with a manual

I'd check that the castle doors work in test, the motor lugs aren't shorting to the metal lane guides below them.

Not as likely the VUK behind the doors or the drop target retract.

LTG : )

I suspect the winkie target coil first.

It did get smoked while troubleshooting the mech.

Check its resistance and report back.

Not the up coil, different fuse. Retract coil is on the fuse he's blowing.

LTG : )

Except that coil isn't on the fuse you are blowing.

Check the fuse flow chart in your manual and that coil is on fuse F706 70 volt coils and you are blowing fuse F710 20 volt coils ( drop target retract and others )

So I suspect something protected on F710 fuse, not something protected on a different fuse line that isn't blowing.

LTG : )

Do any coils run hot, or very hot to the touch after a couple games?

(Just thinking aloud...)

I believe the rrwoz came with printed manuals ... for 9-9500 they sld lol.
Also those sales numbers are prettty good and di has sold pretty well considering its only been shipping a year and 4 months and the initial hate on it. As more people find how amazing it is i believe it will sell over 2500-3k over the next few years.

Thank you! Its a great community!

My RRWOZ came with a signed printed manual, bought it new through a distributor, manufacture date December 2016. I also remember reading that the manual was one of the RR perks.

Nothing better than a first time player asking, "What the heck am I supposed to be doing?!?", and you whip out (*ahem*) the manual and say, "Start reading!"

Good bit.

Only after they raised the price $500 and included the printed manual and Invisiglass, both were originally options. I know because mine did not come with the manual and I paid to get the glass.

This is correct.

Has anyone had this happen?

My buddy was playing, went to hit the ball but held the flipper button in and by fluke, it stopped the ball on the tip. It's bizarre as the ball is actually beyond the tip. It stayed put and I took a half dozen pics.

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Ha! That’s awesome! I’ve had some crazy catches before but none as crazy as that.

Hi guys, my new RRWOZ is up and playing 100% One little tweak I had to make was to my "Left" haunted tree. It seemed to be clashing with the PF guide under the playfield. The tree was hitting something making a metallic sound and not going down. I shimmed up the left mounting screw of the tree pop bumper with 4 flat washers, this tipped the guts of the tree to the inside of the cabinet and it now clears the rail. ***I am guessing it was the guide rail, couldn't really see.

This happen to anyone else, any different solutions?

Thanks for the info
I'll get in touch with the JJP folks as they have always taken great care of me.

This bumper annoys me everytime I lift the playfield. He gets blocked when putting it down. I just hold it a bit tilted to the right when lowering the playfield and he comes back perfectly in place

This has been noted a couple times. Its a very packed close area around the pops.

The guide rail can be loosened and moved/bent out of the way.
In extreme cases remove the tree, its easy.

The trees are hollow rubber, just push down on a hollow nut driver to grab the nuts.

Remove the pop bumper ring (its really easy) and grind off enough of it so that it doesnt rub in the area you need.

It doesnt have to be round there. Flattening if off is ok as the ball cant hit it there anyway.

You can use a dremel, file, grinding wheel or coarse sandpper on a sanding block for this. Its a thin soft steel ring designed for easy replacement and adjustment.

This happens mostly on the ball guide of the crystal ball loop and sometimes on the far left guide rail in the haunted forest.

Putting in the washers is great but I worry that the crooked mech will damage the playfield in time.

That's a good consideration, I've got a playfield protector and it is pretty minor so I suspect it will be OK. Better safe than sorry though. Thanks again.

Guys, I was working on woz today for the first time in a long time and couldn’t get the playfield back in! Is my cabinet warping? I don’t think my floor is very level, but I had the playfield fairly level.

Big gap on the left. Collision on the right?!

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Looks like the cabinet twisted.

LTG : )

Anything to do? I managed to force it in. But I’m afraid it’s gonna warp the playfield.

I've seen something similar but not as bad happen if you have the game really unleveled, try raising the left front or / and lowering the right front, the cabinet can twist to some degree if the levelers and all out of whack.

I had this problem a few times when I owned WOZ. I finally figured out what the problem was once I sold it and had to fold the head down. Check for the wire bundle getting pinched between the back of the cabinet and the upper left playfield (Castle side).

I agree, that would have to be one warped ass cab, lol.

Raise the PF back up and but a square in and see if the corners are 90 degrees, if they are, something on one side is keeping the PF from moving all the way back.

Great tips guys. Thanks. I’ll check tomorrow.

Did you try tightening the bracket mount screws?

If just the end loop broke off, grab another loop off the spring, bend it out and reattach it to the mech.

It's not too critical as far as tension.

Nice find!

Grounding out the coil with a direct short would definitely blow the fuse.

Keep track of it. Could be a broken wire inside the harness.

It's always something simple like that.

I looked for that spring a long time, gone. A flipper coil spring works great.

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LTG : )