Just got an update on my Jan 30 2011 WOZ pre-order. Last month's estimate of a late July shipping date just got bumped to (maybe) late August. Frustrating.
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I'm guessing Jack is broke or close to it, or he simply doesn't want to spend the money on adequate labor to get these machines out the door in a more timely fashion.
Quoted from StevenP:Just got an update on my Jan 30 2011 WOZ pre-order. Last month's estimate of a late July shipping date just got bumped to (maybe) late August. Frustrating.
That stinks. I'm a March 23rd 2011 order and was last told late August / early September. Looks like late September early August now...
Quoted from turbo20lbs:I'm guessing Jack is broke or close to it, or he simply doesn't want to spend the money on adequate labor to get these machines out the door in a more timely fashion.
I think there is more to it than labor. You can't just pay a skilled worker to work. yo need tools, training, and space.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:That stinks. I'm a March 23rd 2011 order and was last told late August / early September. Looks like late September early August now...
Would that be early August 2014? 
Quoted from PanzerFreak:I'm a March 23rd 2011 order and was last told late August / early September. Looks like late September early August now...
Best case but not likely. I got an update on mine and it made me sick. I really hope they get their shit together. I have never bashed them but it really is getting old now and I'm kind of over it. I don't know why anyone would give them $1 for Hobbit right now, it's time for them to prove to the commuity that buys that they can deliver.
Quoted from turbo20lbs:I'm guessing Jack is broke or close to it, or he simply doesn't want to spend the money on adequate labor to get these machines out the door in a more timely fashion.
I think it's more likely that he's working out the final round of bugs in the pin before shipping them in volume. Ship some, watch what you get for infant mortalities and adjust is a lot cheaper than recalling thousands of pins or making thousands of service calls.
Quoted from turbo20lbs:I'm guessing Jack is broke or close to it, or he simply doesn't want to spend the money on adequate labor to get these machines out the door in a more timely fashion.
You obviously don't know Jack, senator.
Sorry to hear that guys, over two years and getting news of more delays would frustrate most pinheads. I hope if you all stay in that you get the pin soon and absolutely love it.
The only promising thing right now is that games are at least being produced and shipped. However, I thought JJP is well on their way to 10 games built a day so I wonder what the reason for the delay is.
Quoted from PinballCharlie:My Jan. 23 (2011) order has been rescheduled to (possibly) late August, too.
Well, hell. I'm Jan 24... August 9th was my projected date... sh*tters...
In my field, long delays are very costly and unsustainable. Not sure how JJP can continue with these.
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Quoted from PanzerFreak:The only promising thing right now is that games are at least being produced and shipped. However, I thought JJP is well on their way to 10 games built a day so I wonder what the reason for the delay is.
What does stern pump out a day?
Quoted from FatAussieBogan:What does stern pump out a day?
That doesn't matter. Would everyone rather have a bad or troublesome pinball 6 months ago or a working nice machine in a month?
It is up to you
I got tired of the delays as and BS so I canceled my order
Money was quickly refunded and I moved on
Lots of other pinball machines to play and enjoy
Quoted from FatAussieBogan:What does stern pump out a day?
Pinball machines. Lots of them.
Quoted from jarjarisgod:Pinball machines. Lots of them.
And they are fun!
Quoted from lordloss:That doesn't matter. Would everyone rather have a bad or troublesome pinball 6 months ago or a working nice machine in a month?
It's a baseline for what industry practice is. There's nothing more pertinent than what the other/only other guy is doing.
This is disappointing to read. I'm May 2011 order and was told likely August ship date. Now, I'm preparing myself for Xmas - 2013 still.
Something isn't right in NJ. I wonder if they are starting to fulfill disti orders first in order to prime the pump better for future business and Hobbit sales volume. Jack was a disti and knows the value of a happy sales channel versus one and twosy buyers. I honestly believe he is trying to make everyone happy but now needs to make trade off decisions based on slow delivery line.
Don't want to bash JJP but as others have posted something is off. Putting money down on Hobbit is nonsensical at this point. People sure need to start appreciating Stern delivery vehicle. Say what you will but they are pumping out games.
Quoted from swf127:I think it's more likely that he's working out the final round of bugs in the pin before shipping them in volume. Ship some, watch what you get for infant mortalities and adjust is a lot cheaper than recalling thousands of pins or making thousands of service calls.
I think this ^ slowed stuff down... The good news is that issues like too small of a power supply for the LED's ect have been solved so for those who wait you will get a better game.
Yea, this is about to blow up. I know a local distributor that just called last month and ordered 10 WoZ and got them today. As soon as I see my confirmation picture that he has them all, I'm calling Jack and demanding a refund on my WoZ and also my hobbit preorder. This will get well publicized. It's one thing for him to be doing his best to fill orders in order of received. But it's something quite different when he pushes everyone else in front of those that paid 1-2 years ago.
Quoted from markmon:Yea, this is about to blow up. I know a local distributor that just called last month and ordered 10 WoZ and got them today. As soon as I see my confirmation picture that he has them all, I'm calling Jack and demanding a refund on my WoZ and also my hobbit preorder. This will get well publicized. It's one thing for him to be doing his best to fill orders in order of received. But it's something quite different when he pushes everyone else in front of those that paid 1-2 years ago.
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Quoted from markmon:Yea, this is about to blow up. I know a local distributor that just called last month and ordered 10 WoZ and got them today. As soon as I see my confirmation picture that he has them all, I'm calling Jack and demanding a refund on my WoZ and also my hobbit preorder. This will get well publicized. It's one thing for him to be doing his best to fill orders in order of received. But it's something quite different when he pushes everyone else in front of those that paid 1-2 years ago.
I hope that's not true.......but let's get the facts on the table....
an op near me ordered last week and got his today. i can even post his receipt and his picture of the game today.
STRINGS WHERE PULLED HE SAYS. gtfo thats B.S
In the long run, no big deal I guess. And they have made some tweaks, like upgrading the lighting power supply recently (after initial production began). But last month's late-July ship estimate would've been great for coinciding with the party. (A scene that might have been good exposure too; probably 50+ people who never heard of WOZ pinball before!) And there's no way that game shipments follow the pre-order date priority. (Even accounting for various distributors' orders of unknown size.) I know this to be fact. Again, frustrating right now.
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ordered on the 11th shipped on the 18th received today. Why? Because Pinball on a stick needed it for the state fair. BULL SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT to the rest of the 2 year buyers. Those are the FACTS
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Quoted from iceman44:I hope that's not true.......but let's get the facts on the table....
Hope all you want but Automated suddenly had plenty, Bene, they have been showing up at Arcades and now this.
pretty obvious.
New cash
Quoted from AkumaZeto:an op near me ordered last week and got his today. i can even post his receipt and his picture of the game today.
See this is SO disappointing. Some of us went in on WOZ back in 2011 to help bring in competition and to support & back Jack. We floated money on the promise we would have new machines within a reasonable time but help him build this new business. Now to get jumped in line - if true - it just ain't right.
Quoted from markmon:Yea, this is about to blow up. I know a local distributor that just called last month and ordered 10 WoZ and got them today. As soon as I see my confirmation picture that he has them all, I'm calling Jack and demanding a refund on my WoZ and also my hobbit preorder. This will get well publicized. It's one thing for him to be doing his best to fill orders in order of received. But it's something quite different when he pushes everyone else in front of those that paid 1-2 years ago.
+2. Yeah, new orders = new cash flow, but the pre-orders were told all along that games would be shipped in the order that orders were received. Great game, solid quality and value, and I understand all the delays and growing pains over the past 2+ years. But now games are coming off the assembly line. I do not like it when I'm being BS'd.
Quoted from DCfoodfreak:Hope all you want but Automated suddenly had plenty, Bene, they have been showing up at Arcades and now this.
pretty obvious.
I'm still hoping.......but when you think about it, it makes sense, you get the hype of Woz out there, pins being delivered and now Ops/distros want in and want to purchase NOW, new $$$.....
It would be hard for a sales guy to pass up a sale today that he might not be able to deliver or get next year after all the pins are finally delivered?.......I don't know, let's see what the response is from Jack..
BOOOOOOM! JUST BLEW THAT SHIZ RIGHT OUT OF THE WATER FOR JJP!
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Quoted from StevenP:I do not like it when I'm being BS'd.
Me either, the BS ing of the original end of March date and other delivery misrepresentations is what set me off back then and supposedly JJP learned the lesson of just telling us what we want to hear regardless of the truth......
I would like to hear the explanation and justification for what is going on and I'm sure that's coming.....
The other thing is, you can't hide the fact that orders like the ones above are happening or that certain distros suddenly appear with "plenty of Woz"......
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