Well yeah its awesome, it has a baby pac, best hybrid arc/pin ever made!

That game is deff. A prototype.

"Prototype" is the new "these aren't the droids you're looking for"

Please tell us more about the Baby Pac. Was it working? I remember playing one ~30 years ago.

Chris

Lol. Where is... Homepin

I would take that Baby Pac anyday over a Woz.

I can't wait until a woz shows up near me to play!

I told you the other day in a thread that Sarah's game was old and likely wont be running new software or running at all. That is not a production game. She's had it for a long time and should have her full game soon.

More new wide body pins please.

Still broken~

Well, I know you are looking for a non-proto WOZ to play, so if you are going to be in Vegas anytime soon you can play the one there since it isn't a proto. I'm going to be there in four weeks and look forward to playing it myself.

Oh, wait...

If this is a conspiracy, Alex Jones or Mark Dice would be talking about the Illuminati being responsible for WOZ's delay.

Played it at NW pinball show..........didn't keep my interest long.

It's important to note that the issue could of simply been a ball being stuck at an area in the machine / VUK. Many of these issues have been solved in recent code updates and it's possible that the games you saw were running old code. Home users with production games and updated code have nothing but praise for the game.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm being facetious because I know I'm not) but aren't you the same person that asked multiple times for a free woz to put in your arcade? And when that didn't happen you now make it a point to say disparaging things about the game and JJP. If it were in your arcade drawing crowds I bet that tune would be different.

PS, I spoke to him on the phone (and have pm's) as he asked to see if I could push his request through to get his arcade a woz as he has "the highest quality games at any arcade anywhere"

For something that didn't hold your interest you had a real high interest level at its earning potential.

I hate agendas.

Baby pac seems like a really cool little game for a hybrid. I just wish I could find one that wasn't trashed. I've played three different ones on location now and they've all been beat to death.

Babypac is cooler to look at then actually play. The idea is great, but overall it's a fail, lackluster pacman ruins it for me...

Yep, why the eff would JJP want these out there? It's crazy as they are problematic. If I were Jack I would pull ALL of those immediately! The OPs that have them must have some personal pull with Jack is all I can figure.

Wow, its hard to believe that the first games produced by a new company with all new electronics had some problems. Go figure! Why can't they get it right the first time?

Would it not of been better to make prototypes like Stern does and send them out for testing?

I respectfully disagree, the ghosts are so freaking tough on it, its SOOOOO frustrating and challenging, I rather enjoy mine.

The small pinball playfield is awesome when you can constantly loop the tunnel and fruit spinner lanes.

Wow. If true, that's low. Let me guess - he touted his arcade as a great marketing opportunity for the game.

Don't get me wrong, I do kinda like it, but it could have been soooo much better

Yes, they are somewhat rare to find in good working order, I actually have a spare pf Ive completely slacked on trying to restore, mines not a stunning looker but plays well.

It's just an evolution..... and the evolution of what could be a really great pin, we all know what's coming, Jack said they are at 5-7 pins a day now and should be at 10 shortly....

Apparently, the pins being delivered now are sliding out of the box with zero issues and that is from all the hard work and learning curve results from the "final test" stage and everything that goes into that process.....

Baby Pacman gets old real quick, in a small collection. It is a fun game though.

So you completed it?

edit- Bang for Buck wise, this is a quite inexpensive toy to own.

Correct. He said he has the highest quality games on location (which may be true) and woz would be great there. I haven't said a word as he bashed woz and JJP since not getting a proto for his arcade. And I just can't watch the BS any longer. There were a finite number of protos in various stages of development. Not enough to go around. They are all being pulled back shortly anyway.

Thanks for the opinion, unbiased distributor of Stern games.

Worth mentioning that Stryker's is a Stern distributor as well.

His ratings seem a little more balanced than the other dude anyway.

http://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/benepinballs/ratings
(not safe for any confidence you have in the top 100)

As soon as you have a financial motive to praise Product A and put down Product B (and it doesn't matter how honest or unbiased you think you are), you are no longer a regular Joe free to express your opinion like everyone else. You are a businessman with responsibilities, and must endeavor to behave with integrity and business professionalism.

For example, you should expect all praise of Product A to be taken with strong skepticism, since you will now sound like a shill no matter how valid your point. In addition, all public criticism of Product B should immediately end (or at minimum have appropriate disclosures added so there is no confusion), because as soon as it comes out that you make money on competing Product A, you look like a total douche for having criticised Product B while pretending to have no bias.

Stern's (and perhaps JJP's, I'm not sure) business model of having individuals and unrelated small business owners become distributors makes this a particularly tricky situation, because you never know who in the community actually has a financial motive for saying what they do. And yes, I do believe there is a difference between the emotionally-charged opinion of a "fanboy", and the financially-biased opinion of a "Stern distributor" or "JJP distributor".

I'm starting to think Pinside needs a mandatory "relationship" disclosure for accounts, so if you're directly financially tied to one or more pinball-related companies, it's out in the open and readers can apply the appropriate "value" to posts on certain subjects.

Pretty obvious who has the agenda and trying to feed a BS conspiracy here. First you say it is broken.

Then you admit it was just turned off and the operator even kindly put in a bunch of free credits for you to play.

Then look who else shows up to your BS agenda.conspiracy thread

Bene > Stern 'retailer', pinside ratings biased extrodinaire

and
Syrker > Stern 'retailer' pissed that he could not get a free WOZ so now he bashes it all the time

This is the perfect example of how used car salesmen need to be identified on pinside so anyone new to the website can more accurately judge the 'opinions' of those they are conversing with. Robin, how is that feature coming along where we can tag users with their affiliations and after so many tags it will automatically show up next to their name? For example Bene "Stern Retailer"

We have one at Yestercades in Red Bank, NJ. It's
a pretty popular title among the customers.

Interesting note that I've never seen elsewhere - the
video hardware is the exact same hardware used in a
Colecovision and/or TI 99/4a computer.

JD

I read this post as thick with sarcasm.
Am I right, Doug? I think some posters missed your point.

P.S. Love the avatar ... One of my favorites.

Not a bad idea. Not sure how it would be implemented. I visit pinside every day, and I have no idea who these distributors are, so I don't know who has a vested interest in what they are saying.

I will add though, that many of these issues will clear up once more WOZ's are out there. The problem now is there are so few out there. So the opinion of a few carry a lot more weight than normal. In 6 months time the verdict on WOZ will be fair.

I do agree with that.

Good idea!

Very sarcastic. Look up the name Doug Piranha

Not many people know Conrad Pooh, ty

Lloyd voluntarily did it as he has nothing to hide. Kudos to him!

I remember that skit well. I grew up on Python ... but my wife does not appreciate the sense of humor that I developed from those days.

Rest of your point is valid but he also said the playfield lights didn't work. That is broken.