ABSOLUTELY YES!! We love ours, and its simply one of the deepest, challenging, fun and beautiful games ever. It's especially a yes if you can appreciate the theme of an American classic. Woz is the one that will never leave my collection. My RR has been rock solid with zero issues for over a year of ownership to. A few tweaks like any game, but solid after that.

You really want opinions? To be honest way back when it was announced I heard the title and thought that's crazy. So glad to be wrong. Super game, layout and shots are great, it is beautiful and it looks and feels like quality. Yeah I like the more solid feel of Gottlieb flippers so I know what you mean. Especially if you had already wanted for a while, I say yes!!

You just wasted 15 mins give Joe a call ASAP.

Happy Easter!

Have you played WOZ? Do you like the gameplay? You can come over and play mine sometime. You need to put on a bunch of plays before you decide.

WOZ is a polarizing pin. First because of the theme but sounds like that is no problem for you. Second for the gameplay. It is pretty unique. There is not a lot of flow but it isn't exactly stop and go either. I'd call the gameplay controlled chaos (how much control depends on how good you are). Not a lot of shots return to the flippers without going thru some hazard first. It has a complex and deep ruleset which I think most people like.

Personally I think WOZ is a great game and I highly recommend it.

Do it - When you play woz you don't really pay attention to the theme, but you become immersed in the game like no other. Im on my second woz - had a brand new RR delivered two days ago and the family can't stop playing it...... nothing compares imho.

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If you're a fan of the movie and the theme, absolutely positively get this pinball! It is amazing on all levels. I would still have mine, but I'm not a fan of the theme.

That said; I heard a rumor that jersey Jack plans to do new runs of Wizard of Oz with the upgraded new lighting boards. I would investigate that rumor before shelling out $9500.

Yep - builds after 12/15/16 have the same lighting system that the Hobbit has

Family friends and I love this game. Standard edition. It's unique feel and play in my line up is refreshing. Can't see it ever Leaving. Controlled chaos description above on gameplay spot on.

It is a family and neighbor favorite here. Just a great game overall!!!

Get the WOZ. The other pins you are considering are really no comparison as they are all 20+ years older. As for the new light boards I don't know how much difference it will make since I have had way more problems with my Hobbit light boards (all have now been replaced, one twice, and all the cables swapped out) than I have had with WOZ.

I have owned three of these titles. Wizard of Oz still stands out as an incredible achievement and the one machine I think about re-purchasing. Many people are unable to get past the theme or some of the ill-will that the company has caused in the past. But if you are unaffected by those factors, there's no denying that the machine remains unsurpassed in many respects. (We'll see about Dialed In.)

The shear number of toys and flippers. The number of shots. The excellent integration of theme and play. The unusual features not seen on any other machine. The unreachable depth of the rules. It is a lot of machine.

Much more reliable. I was hoping the new system would have brighter GI, too, but I asked in person at TPF and they said they are indistinguishable from a player's perspective.

I had a bad taste in my mouth on wizard. I also don't like the theme. But.

It is JJPs flagship title. In my opinion they will never make a better game. They seem to constantly polish it. All the owners I know who have one love it. It's a crowd pleaser too.

Enjoy.

It's my first pin, and one of my favorites. And I had tons of problems with the light boards for the first two years. So glad I stuck with it - it works perfectly now (except for the monkey not wanting to drop the ball!), and it's a favorite with everybody who plays it.

I've had the RR over 2 years its such a great pin.

Played a bunch this morning I would definitely get again.

Mine is the RR 75th. I personally like it the best, but the green ecle is equally as beautiful. If you love the movie that much, this seems like a no brainer. It really is one of the most impressive games ever. Also, I love the movie and theme also, and the table really does great referencing every aspect of the movie. Mine is over a year old and again, zero issues. Feels way more solid than any stern ever. Not bashing stern, it just feels like a 9k machine's supposed to.

$9k? No way.

Pick up an older WozECLE. The light boards are a non issue with the 7.5 boards.

Didn't you recently pay $9k or more for a Batman 66 LE? A WOZ RR 75th with invisiglass, a shaker motor, 4 flippers, 2 mini playfields, 5 magnets, multiple toys and one of the deepest rulesets ever created sounds pretty darn good when looking at games around the same price!

I had a first run standard WOZ and it quickly became my favorite game EVER. I decided to give my standard to my parents (they both love the theme and the pin) and bought a brand new RR75 direct from JJP. I have zero regrets. It is the flagship of my collection and will never leave. I personally don't feel that a better pin has ever been produced. If you already love the theme (as I do), you will not regret it. It has beauty, awesome deep and challenging game play, great call outs and is unlike anything produced before or since.

Go White Water as it is a much better game.

WoZ has lots of bling and is loaded with lots of stuff...but they left out the pinball fun. Gameplay in supreme in my book and WoZ is pretty poor in that area.

WoZ has deep software, but ball speed, layout and shots are below average. White Water has some of the best flow of any game made along with a great ruleset.

Age means nothing...White Water kicks WoZ ass any day of the week.

Are The Chainsmokers better than Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Van Halen, or The Who? No...they do not even belong in the same sentence.

WOZ. When Jersey Jack decided to make this theme I didn't think it was going to appeal to myself or a lot of other people. I played it, I realized that it was going to be one of the greatest pinball machines ever made and I had to get one.

WOZ is one of my families all time favorite movies. The pin is even better. Wish I could afford one. They will soon stop manufacturing these games so might be your last chance to pick up a NIB one. I've played all the games on your list and say it would be WOZ for first choice and MM for second. If you didn't like the theme I would say MM first then WOZ second.

Play it first
I have only played it once, did not like the constantly changing colored LEDs
so I did not like it

your mileage may vary

My first thoughts on speed were the same when I played on location. Got sold on rules and light show so I bought a RR, set it up to about 6.9 degrees and it plays pretty fast and is tough to control. I frequently feel this game is floaty on location which really does it a disservice. Now that it is in my collection I cannot see it leaving. Amazing pin and my others look and feel old next to it, even though most are newer.

You should get all those other pins before you get WOZ because once you get WOZ all those other games will seem lackluster.

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Pins depend a lot on technology while bands do not. I agree that white water is a great game one of my favorites in fact, but since it comes out there have been a lot of innovations in pinball - color changing inserts, clear coated playfields, LEDs, LCD displays, deeper rules, invisglass, higher quality audio, etc. some of these can be added to White Water. But, I believe WOZ is one of the best games currently in production. That said it isn't for everyone and I have no problem with people who prefer older games, but I also think the technological innovation makes it difficult to compare games of different generations.

This is true. Once you own a jjp game at all, the bar is set so high that I still haven't seen anything else compare. Stern has been getting closer it seems with AS, but still jjp is in a league of its own.

Like I said above, love mine and op can't go wrong buying this title especially if he also likes the theme. On another note op would benefit having atleast 1 fast and furious stern title in his lineup also

Having both white water and woz seems a winning combo. Both pretty damn amazing.

What, you haven't called automated yet and ordered a RR? Get on it today.

Sold my WOZECLE, sure was pretty but I never felt compelled to play it once we got past the honeymoon stage. Too many irritating things about it and some things malfunctioned too often.

Thoughts is I own both.

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woz blows mm out of the water.

Our new WOZ Ruby Red was delivered Friday from Larry @ FlipNout Pinball. Gorgeous game with a tremendous amount going on! I say go for it!

Since there are so many threads about MM vs. AFM, and MM clearly got trounced by WOZ in this thread, I wonder how AFM (or AFMr) would stack up against WOZ.

This was 100% fixed for me by placing a piece of black electrical tape on the magnet.

change your balls out as they are probably magnetized