I couldn't see myself paying that much for it either, and I own a WOZ. I love this freaking hobby, but not at those prices. I will never join the 10k club. I don't know what causes the psychological barrier that exists at 8k, but I'm not crossing it.

Is it really? Ouch. That is an even bigger jump over the shark.

Really?? Judging by the newer ones I've played, they are getting cheaper and cheaper feeling. They are also getting repetitious (hey, let's put two ramps in this one with a fan layout!). And don't look, but the pro will be crossing the 5k price barrier soon (not list, for reals). They are taking more out and charging more. Nah, not looking more appealing than their own games from a few years ago.

My pinball soul died a little when I played Wrestlemania LE.

When are you?

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I'm more concerned about the build quality of this thread. This is summer TV that is nothing but reruns. Same people on their same sides, including the butt hole typing this.

(I can't get a thread eject for not being nice to myself, can I?)

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone said Jack could go out of business while I was waiting for my WOZ. I'd probably have enough to buy... Another WOZ.

That's because he stretched it into 3 long movies. The smaller story could have been great with just one movie. And I wouldn't have had to sit through what felt like 20 minutes of dwarves washing dishes.

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Yes, yes they have. They do it through their distributors. If a machine is a hot seller, the price will go up. If there are not many of that particular machine left, the price goes up. If they are not selling, the price goes down a bit. I'm talking the street price, not the MSRP. The actual price you pay changes all the time with Stern depending on market conditions.

I don't mind people making comparisons between the two manufacturers, but at least make them correct comparisons.

Actually, they do it themselves by forcing distributors to take a bad machine with a good one. For instance, you want a KISS LE to sell? Well you have to take this nice WWE LE to sell as well. Stern does it in a way that isn't as easy to see, but they do it. It is a system that has matured over the years.

In other words, why doesn't Stern have transparent pricing? Because people would complain about the pricing if they knew exactly how it all worked. Much easier to hide it under a veil. That way people like you can't see the bigger system. You can get ticked off at a specific distributor, you can go to another car dealership to help you feel better... oh, I meant distributor.

I'm trying to figure out how I could use it in the gameroom... Pick your pizza topping on the Big Bass Wheel! Pick your desired chips from the cupboard on the Big Bass Wheel! Or pick your craft beer on the Big Bass Wheel... nope, you're right, I'm not got to buy a Big Bass Wheel for my home arcade.

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Only this... Hi Pat!!!