In a related story, my ECLE just went up in value as well.
Get a pin done by HEP. You'll cross that barrier with gusto, then say, "Thank you, Chris. May I have another?"
Why do you guys keep bringing up the stock market? Who cares about f**king stocks? Pinball isn't an investment, and my comment about saving money on WOZ and the preorder model was a JOKE.
Now, before the mods get their panties in a bunch, let's post updates about Hobbit.
Anyone? Anyone? No. I didn't think so.
Quoted from JoeGrenuk:
No, it didn't.
It was a joke.
Quoted from jimjim66:
Biggest misconception about pinball, it IS an investment. Not so much for people that stick them in a man cave, but since most of them go into location for play, it is an investment. They even have have a magazine called Play Meter that talks about earnings from arcade equipment, pinball being part of that. Return of Investment is still part of the purchasing decision on arcade games for operators.
Besides MMR, and the pin, when they stop putting coin doors on pinball machines, then they stop being an investment. Even if you exclude operators, tell flippers pins are not an investment. Tell operators that when they sell old equipment, price doesn't matter.
The better terminology should be, pinball is NOT a GOOD investment as there are easier and more reliable ways of making money.
Jack said one of the reasons he picked WOZ as a theme was his WOZ coin pusher was doing incredible on location. The WOZ slot machine was doing great on location. So he figured WOZ pinball would follow suit.
To finish my point on where this is going, for WOZ to have a price increase it can only mean one thing, it MUST BE SELLING. Basic economics. When demand exceeds supply, prices go up. Operators say it is making them money, so maybe they are the ones driving up demand and not the home collector market.
It's not making any money in my game room. So for me, it's not an investment. It's a hobby. Hobbies cost money.
Quoted from SilverBallz:
so when is JJP throwing in the towel?
It was a nasty jab, or at least read like one.
He's not throwing in the towel, and you don't start a pinball company in this economy if you're a quitter. (A little insane? That's a different discussion.)
New pics of parts and playfields on the Hobbit update thread. I'm feeling much better about my preorder now.
I'm pretty sure Pinball Star was selling both the LE and the SE at the lower price at ReplayFX. So you don't necessarily have to pay the higher price.
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