I'm not sure what the going rates are over there, but that's a horrible deal in the US. It looks like that is equivalent to $3344 in US dollars on top of your CV. Over here those games should be just about equal price-wise assuming the CV is in at least decent shape.

i'd probably trade it for other titles but, not avengers. i'd hold on to it for now.

Hell no. It all depends on if your opinion of really good is the same as mine, however. I can't imagine putting $3400 on top of CV unless the thing had blown out inserts, cabinet damage and board issues. Haven't played avengers, so don't take this as a put down on avengers.

It does not seem like a good trade based on market prices.

In the US, Nice Cirqus Voltaire cost around $6K+. Avenger LE can be found for $6,500-$7,000 in the US.

Now, with that being said, you have to make a decision if having the latest Stern LE is worth losing a classic Bally like CV.

If you are tired of the CV, then make the change, but try to negotiate less money as part of the deal.

Good luck!

Marcus

It depends on the condition of your cv. But I would hold out for an even trade or no trade at all. Don't feel like this is a one time opportunity. And if it turns out it is a one time opportunity, then the worse that happens is your stuck with a kick ass classic A style game. I say wait and be patient. Avengers is still new; I think the day of nibs skyrocketing in price are over. If you miss this deal, you can always pick up a premium down the road.

I would trade the CV for Avengers. I would not add much money to the deal.

No I would not.

A good deal is fair to both parties, you would be taking it in the shorts on this one I don't think I would do it even straight across, certainly not with money going the other way!

Keep CV since it is a better game and has proven the test of time. Avengers is not all it's cracked up to be and once the honeymoon is over it will settle into being one of the good Sterns but not one of the best. I am not saying it's horrible but it's no where near as good as all the hype it's getting now. It's just the newest game out and that always happens. Same thing happened to TF and XMEN and people were saying how they were some of the best Sterns ever when they came out, now you see how those are regarded and what those are selling for after the honeymoon is over.

Your birthright for a bowl of porridge.

Dan

I've owned both CV (HUO) and Avengers (Hulk LE). I wouldn't take this deal. I do feel that CV has reached the peak of its popularity and don't see $7K prices coming back anytime soon.

That being said, it's definitely a $6K game all day long if it's in good shape. If you really want Avengers, sell the CV outright then you could probably get even the Hulk LE if you wanted it.

Your deal sounds like a distributor who wants to make some sweet coin on your CV.

Best of luck.

Also keep in mind there could be Avengers premium down the road if you always wanted to pick one up.

Keep CV.

I disagree with Bojo 100%. Gameplay on Avengers SHREDS on CV. CV is a beautiful game and a classic from the B/W golden era, but it can't hold Avengers jock. But it does seem to be comparable in value, so sell it at market value and buy yourself an AVLE. You do not need to add cash if your CV is mint. But you could theoretically add $1k +or- if its just OK.

Sounds like the best solution. Congrats on the ALE!

Dan

Awesome. Grats! LE or Pro?
I have a sub on mine; dig it a lot...especially when you assemble hawkeye, thats all im gonna say - dont want to ruin anything

Oh man, pressures on lol. Well, if you can hit the shots like i can, it does freakin rock. I switch back and forth from acdc to avengers with the edge going slightly to avengers.

Truth be told, when i put my 3 1/2 mo son in the backpack (actually its a front pack facing forward towards the pins) he can sit through about 5-7 games of acdc without needing a break. One game of avengers though, and he fusses lol.

Good luck; post pics! a few quick set up tips:
-put 2 to 3 washers under the red post of the BW ramp where the ramp meets the bridge. This raises it just a hair to make it more flush. I currently have 3 washers but thinking about backing down to 2 and see if it changes anything.
-Then add 2 to 3 washers under each screw (2 screws - 4 washers) of the first plastic protector piece to make it more even with the 2nd plastic protector. Markmon removed both pieces completely, not sure if im gonna try this. I have 2 washers under each screw now, but thinking about adding a 3rd to raise it higher.
-Wipe down and/or wax that pf.
-shooter rod, test your shooter for a couple days, if its banging or jumps the ramp onto the pf you'll have to adjust it. The fix for mine was removing the 2 phillips copper screws and putting them in the coin box, then loosening the other 3 main hex screws and moving the assembly housing a butthair to the left when your looking in (right from players view plunging the ball). Tighten 3 screws and test it for a week and make adjustments as needed before drilling new holes for the 2 copper phillips screws.
-auto plunge: gomez himself recommended using needle nose pliers to ever so slightly give a tweak to the right prong to space it out enough. Im sure this all depends on how your game is and make adjustments accordingly.
-Hulk: if your getting hulk hangups, test your pressure plate switch with a ball in switch test. Then rotate hulks arms left to right in switch test. Make sure both are sensitive especially the hulk arms rotation left to right. Honestly, i dont like the pressure plate switch design, it needed to be a hair bigger. Its a very touch switch (i think i may need a new switch) cause mine still gets caught up under hulks right arm from time to time...not very often, but enough to notice.
-Add some 89 super LEDs to each avengers flash lamp in the back of the game, makes a big difference. Dont use anything brighter than supers...i used the flat 9's from CT and they nearly blinded me! lol. I went to bed that night seeing spots..oops lol.
-3 green frosted 555's on loki lock looks SO MUCH nicer than the stock LEDs. highly recommend.
-I recommend adding a skinny post to the minimum position of the outlanes...especially the right outlane. Leave the factory fat posts in their current position, just add the skinny ones. The right outlane is a pretty cheap drain whore with no nudge factor. I feel the game would be too easy with the fat posts in the minimum position and seems just right with skinny posts for an average player.
-I set ironman to easy; until he's assembled or your in tesserect mode...his shot goes to the pops and slows the game down. Some may like this, but i like getting him started right away so his shots beam through to the left flipper. Plus, when the balls on the left flipper, 90% of the time im shooting BW, such a fun shot. I go for ironman just to get him assembled, then use him during Hulk mb.

Im done rambling. Enjoy

And for the record, if you dont like it, i do believe i said this earlier in your thread. So the balls no longer in my court

Enjoy Avengers! It's an incredible, fast pasted, difficult game. I keep wondering when the honeymoon period is going to wear off. No sign yet.

Congrats! great game you will enjoy it Avengers is the new BSD and makes you play better! Won't be getting bored of it anytime soon.

+100000.1

nope.

I very much like Classic B/W games, but personally don't understand the love for CV in particular. I think you made the right move. Avengers is great - and ya it will hold your attention and have you itching to play more.

So your saying your son has better taste in Pins then you?

Hahaha smassa. Good one. He's still young though; one day he'll learn to appreciate the non simple layouts much more

I think he's saying that AcDC is best for someone with the attention span of a three year old.

Awesome bro. Congrats. As for the BW ramp. I changed mine up a bit. I only added washers to the plastic protectors, and took the ones off I originally added to the ramp post.