Galesburg, MI
I really like my stargazer pf also. great work JOHN!!
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4 years later
I received 2 of johns pfs here the other day. sea witch and stargazer. they are beautiful. I love them!!!
John did some great work!!!!
will the 2 owners contact me at
[email protected]
so we can lock this down
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ok the seawitch is claimed, who wants the star gazer. ha. I am kidding, I think I have to say j. kidding now days
2 years later
I DO have experience with Mirco - and yeah, his registration issues alone will drive you mad, but you take what you can get if you are serious about restoring a game.
Thats the attitude I like and take.. About 12 years ago or so the only reproduction pfs were made by gene at IPB. They had so many differences from originals and each other, he preferred to sell them face to face at shows. so not only were there only a couple titles available, but you had to get to a show to get one. We are talking about 4 or 5 titles, period over a 8 year spread. he would do one run, and that was it. when they were gone, they were gone
Part of the cool factor of restoring and having a restored game was that you couldnt buy them at wallmart. It was a treasure hunt and you had to communicate and make friends with people.
I have experience restoring historic buildings, 1960's american cars, tube hi fi equipment, pinball, tractors. I cant think of one situation where it was just bolt on new parts.
I am not being devils advocate. I like when things go together easy, for sure!!!
If you fully restore a game, and you make it the best you can (at that time, in that situation, all things being equal) I guarantee you are better person for it. Not just because you have the nice game, but its a test of resourcefulness, and a bunch of other things. Once you have done one, I bet you have learned so much that the next one is much better and much faster.
All aspects of pin resto are so labor intensive. Each person has their level of detail. In my case thats why I cant restore games for a living. I am way too slow, and sweat the little issues, but I am good with that, and I accept it. I think once pinball gets even more commercial and popular, and all of the parts are coming from china, I am going to loose a lot of interest in it.
I have an original used sea witch pf, as well as one of john's repros, if there are any measurements that are needed, I will be happy to help.
Quoted from erichill:Thanks for posting the detailed measurements. That new playfield looks great.
I was the one who originally posted about the position of the flipper bushing hole last year. Several folks have PM'd asking how I dealt with it, so sharing those details here with the wider group:
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I enlarged the left bushing hole.
My process was I'd take a little material off with a small Dremel sanding drum, then take a flipper bracket with just the bushing installed and use thick masking tape to temporarily mount it. I'd put the playfield in the cabinet, install a flipper bat (the alignment pin holds it in the rest position), and roll a ball down the left inlane. If the ball hopped, I'd pull the mech and make the hole a little bigger. Took about 3 times back and forth til I got it smooth. I'd also recommend using a brand new bushing since there might be some slop in the holes of a used one. New one ensures it's properly centered in the bracket.
Photos of the results here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/would-you-prepay-500-us-for-a-new-stern-seawitch-or-star-gazer-playfield/page/48#post-6232472
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All in all, I was very pleased with how the swap turned out. It looks great and it PLAYS like a Seawitch.
great post!
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