I sent you an email, I'm on the better lens list as my basement is too wet to do any work on the game right now anyway.

I'm glad that you're still keeping the list updated. I've only had 3 people reach out to me with their information to try and create a spreadsheet for john (and all of them were non pre-paid individuals)

Looked a couple pages back and couldn't find a photo... what do the "non transparent" blue lenses look like? Do they still shine light through adequately?

I must have missed any posts about the blue inserts. I got production number 11 and I held it up to some light. I noticed the large blue inserts have a rich deep blue color but the smaller ones look cloudy and not as blue. I guess I can help them out w blue LEDs.

How weird, I'm prepaid and sent you info. Either way John and I have been in touch after John's most recent request. We'll get this all done somehow.

I gotta ask this question. The Star Gazer playfields you make are great, but the basic blue color of the play field is much lighter than the original. Not just a shade, a much lighter shade and really looks like a knock off. Why would you not match the blue tone better. You keep making more of these but the basic color is way off? No offense, I know no one else ever made these. I would not buy one or a game that has one in it. Sorry, just looking for closer match to original, which I would think wouldn't be a big problem for digital print.

I was not knocking you, but lenses have nothing to do with this, and are a long second in desirable playfield qualities. It should be pretty easy to change the base color of the playfield. Thats why I paid not much more to restore versus buying a playfield with the base color way off. If CPR produced a glass or playfield with the base color that far off people on here would crucify them.

I guess you think it’s pretty close to original

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Yea. Pretty close

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I respect what you do and I’m sure you have many others who feel the same. I was only asking why not make the color more like “the dark blue version”, which was the same on all the original playfields. So you have not answered the original question as to why this can’t be done.

He answered you several times, you're just being a donkey. Give it a rest.

Maybe you should mind your own business.

Public forum dude. If that's not enough for you how about I'm making it my business since you have comprehension issues and won't stop shitting up this thread.

Clearly you have the comprehension issues. You can’t seem to comprehend that John did not answer my question as to why he wouldn’t consider a better color match. He only kept saying that he would not do it, never said “why”. Do you get it? Now get lost.

Read this again. If it's too many words between this and the other replies to you he says there are different shades in source versions and that is the source he got, and the one he is producing. Go stir shit up someplace else.

The questions being raised are legitimate. What are you afraid of?

John getting distracted by his bullshit and taking 1 minute away from actually making and shipping playfields. Dude got an answer and is just being a hard on about it for god knows why.

Fair enough.

Too funny. Different versions? They must have made 5000 of them to have different versions out there. That was a bs answer. If you like it buy it. No problem.

I wish my plastics matched better but it is what it is.

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The darker blue definitely looks better. Mine is in the middle between the dark and John's so I could probably live with it.

There was significant variation on stock PF"s there's with knee tassel, without knee tassel, no doubt colors as well. I always assumed Stern and Gottlieb said to the playfield company "what inserts and inks are the cheapest for us this week" to explain some of the garish colors they tended to have in there.

Maybe Beehive will come out with the darker blue for those that want that variant.

I don’t think with so few made, the playfields varied that much. The originals I’ve come across that were lighter shades were pretty faded.

That sucks. That would bother the shit out of me every time I played it.

Case in point. The original blue color was pretty close to the shade on the plastics. I’m not an artist or printing expert, so with digital printing is changing a base color to a darker shade not doable?

That was my initial question.

Plastic set blue color is to dark... compared to the plastics that I have...
I need to dig out the game to check the colors against the Pantone book.

This is what I have...
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I do not know if this helps or not...

Here, these color are almost spot on:
154-L Peacock blue
152-L Light blue
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I hope this helps.

It would be nice to see the background blue on Seawitch color corrected too. The one I received from John is a blue-purple where the original is a deeper blue.

I just took a peek at my original Seawitch PF. Even under the posts I would call the original blue a yellow-blue, and not particularly deep. It's lighter than the cabinet blue for sure. Side by side my backglass from John is a good match with a bit more saturation in the midtones.

What is the Peacock blue spot on for? In your picture it doesn't seem to match anything. The Light blue does look like a nice match for the blue next to it.

Replying to myself because it won't let me edit: interestingly enough both my original and repro plastic sets don't match the original playfield. Remains to be seen how good of a match they are for the new PF.

Peacock blue is for the lighter color blue "constellation" images.

Could you put it side by side? It looks way off in that picture. I moved things around to compare and they look quite different. The accent color looks much closer to the lower playfield blue color on my Seawitch.

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I’m not sure what the exact match is. I was trying to point out it’s more blue than purple. Someone would have to provide proper color matching.

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Try: 151-L Robin Egg Blue.
Remember you are looking at a playfield that has old varnish,oxidation,and age.
The light blue color has a hint of black that makes it skew to the grey side.

O.K. I made a test piece of the colors to the blue...
I need to let the paint dry...
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I hope this helps.

Checking back after a few months. Any more Switch playfields go out?

You are on the pre-paid list, so John should have been contacting you for first choice as the several batches of 5pfs have come out over the years. If he has not contacted you, you should CALL HIM at the number below during the day and give him your info.

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Updated Evets last list as of date/time of most recent post... (I'm just tryin' to help)
The main goal is a list to help John get Seawitch playfields FIRST to those pre-paids who 'kickstarted' this project over several years.
John has asked that PRE-PAIDS contact him via pm or in the day by phone at 902-402-7188 (Canada)
Then he hopefully will build up some stock and offer completed, ready playfields to the 'want to buy' peeps.
Please POST IN THIS THREAD when you have received your pf and your name will be removed from the list.
MM
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Evets List
Updated Unofficial Seawitch List
I suspect Tweaver & Dazza88 have been made whole, based on circumstantial evidence, but I do not KNOW this.

Prepaid List
1. Tweaver April 23 or 24, 2013
2. Dazza88 December 13, 2013
3. Jrobinso99 April 4, 2014
4. 85Txaggie May 31, 2014
5. Evets August 3, 2014
6. Raptor December 13, 2014 (per email exchange with Raptor and John G)
7. PACMAN February 1, 2015
8. solidstate February 3, 2015
9. BigMcLargeHuge February 5, 2015
10. j_m_ February 9, 2015

“Want to Buy” List, some parts in semi-educated order.
2014
Talon2000 (see post 29; 6 years ago?)
2017
bluespin (see post 905, 3 years ago)
RazerX (May 26, 2017)
2018
paddlepaw (July 3, 2018; see post 1433)
tdiddy (post 1009, supersedes post 863?; 2 years ago)
Pinballer73 (see posts 937, 1882; 2 years ago)
truemagoo102 (took Yfz450's PM spot from 2 years ago, not sure where to place within the 2018 group)
Chalkey (PM 2 years ago, not sure where to place within the 2018 group)
2019
Tommy42 (see post 1248)
Madmax541 (see post 1432, 1 year ago)

miracleman my order from John has arrived. Please remove me from the list. I took advantage of two not so perfect at a slightly reduced price with very minor blemishes and couldn't be happier. Thank you John for all your hard work. 20210126_140704 (resized).jpg
Never come across a playfield boxed in cardboard better than John does it, well supported on all edges and enough to prevent the star rollovers from damage. Which is something different, all other manufacturers don't install the star rollover, just supply them inside the box.
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Playfield #1
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Sitting on the windowsill to show the insert transparency.
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Playfield #2
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Inserts of playfield #2
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All in all, I'm very happy with the entire process ordering from John. He supplied pictures and a detail description of both playfields to ensure I knew what the very minor blemishes were, before I committed by paying for them. They were well packed, shipped promptly with tracking and arrived on the otherside of the globe in under a week.

Haven't had a chance to unbox the backglass as yet, but will post pictures when I do.
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Mailing info sent.

Dang! Those Sea Witch playfields look really nice.

Updated Evets last list as of date/time of most recent post... (I'm just tryin' to help)
The main goal is a list to help John get Seawitch playfields FIRST to those pre-paids who 'kickstarted' this project over several years.
John has asked that PRE-PAIDS contact him via pm or in the day by phone at 902-402-7188 (Canada)
Then he hopefully will build up some stock and offer completed, ready playfields to the 'want to buy' peeps.
Please POST IN THIS THREAD when you have received your pf and your name will be removed from the list.
MM
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Evets List
Updated Unofficial Seawitch List
I suspect Tweaver & Dazza88 have been made whole, based on circumstantial evidence, but I do not KNOW this.

Prepaid List
1. Tweaver April 23 or 24, 2013
2. Dazza88 December 13, 2013
3. Jrobinso99 April 4, 2014
4. 85Txaggie May 31, 2014
5. Evets August 3, 2014
6. Raptor December 13, 2014 (per email exchange with Raptor and John G)
7. PACMAN February 1, 2015
8. solidstate February 3, 2015
9. BigMcLargeHuge February 5, 2015
10. j_m_ February 9, 2015

“Want to Buy” List, some parts in semi-educated order.
2014
Talon2000 (see post 29; 6 years ago?)
2017
bluespin (see post 905, 3 years ago)
RazerX (May 26, 2017)
2018
paddlepaw (July 3, 2018; see post 1433)
tdiddy (post 1009, supersedes post 863?; 2 years ago)
truemagoo102 (took Yfz450's PM spot from 2 years ago, not sure where to place within the 2018 group)
Chalkey (PM 2 years ago, not sure where to place within the 2018 group)
2019
Tommy42 (see post 1248)
Madmax541 (see post 1432, 1 year ago)