Quoted from o-din:I guess you missed the part that this game would have nothing to do with the new testament and only provides compatibility with the Jewish faith.
The atorah is only the first 3 books of the Old Testament. But I guess most know that.
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:There are over 7 billion people on the planet that identify as humans. That's a decent size potential audience for a pin.
If there are people who want a Alice Cooper or Iron Maiden pin then I do not see why a Bible themed pin would not sell. Out of that 7 billion people on Earth I believe the Christian religion is the largest at around 2.5 billion. Not all themes are for everybody.
There is a fine line here, the potential theme being religious and all. But that doesn't give license to bash a religion on this site. Keep the thread professional and on topic.
I am not religious, but I see that the theme has potential for many modes since there are many events in the Bible which are numbers based. Plus many other stories, fables or what have you to work with. The old testament is like reading the Silmarillian, lots of death and destruction. Depending on layout, it could be fun.
You may not like the theme, but there are millions of Christians out there. Some of them throw stupid money at things I think are just plain silly. Its as if their faith is a hobby. Anyway, there is a large population who are not Pinballers or Pinsiders who will probably buy this thing.
As far as funding it? I am not pre-ordering or funding any game. I learn from others mistakes.
Quoted from zr11990:The atorah is only the first 3 books of the Old Testament. But I guess most know that.
They sent me to a Catholic military school and I'm not even Catholic. Heck, I don't even know what we were. Protestant, Presbyterian, Lutheran, who knows. We went to any and whatever churches were in the neighborhood.
But that military school took us to a Jewish Synagogue on a field trip and I did take note of those rolled up scrolls.
Quoted from o-din:They sent me to a Catholic military school and I'm not even Catholic. Heck, I don't even know what we were. Protestant, Presbyterian, Lutheran, who knows. We went to any and whatever churches were in the neighborhood.
But that military school took us to a Jewish Synagogue on a field trip and I did take note of those rolled up scrolls.
I think you are a charismatic. I think it started in Las Angeles.
Quoted from SealClubber:There is a fine line here, the potential theme being religious and all
it is a theme based on one of the most widely know fiction books ever and the stories of those fictional works.
Quoted from woody76:I think you are a charismatic. I think it started in Las Angeles.
What started in the LA area was one Sunday it was over 100 degrees out and that wool suit I wore to church was very uncomfortable.
Sodom and Gomorrah Mode: (Basically Wizard Mode - Your Last One)
Machine bursts into brimstone and fire, and as you watch you turn into a pillar of salt. 
Tower of Babel add a ball mode.
Where people keep adding comments, but nobody understands any of it.
Quoted from Whysnow:it is a theme based on one of the most widely know fiction books ever and the stories of those fictional works.
Never seen someone ejected that quickly. It's almost like religion is a touchy subject.
Quoted from fisherdaman:It's almost like religion is a touchy subject.
Funny, I didn't see him mention religion at all.
Quoted from Rascal_H:I can think of about 8,347 better themes.... unless it’s totally mocking the Bible...then put me down for 2.
I think it'd be better to have the same exact playfield, with the same exact modes, but with two completely different voice and sound environments, one for young earth creationists, one for athiests. The fact that this would be totally doable is commentary in itself.
You could even have an Afterlife wizard mode where you die and find out however you've set your game was completely wrong.
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:Sodom and Gomorrah Mode: (Basically Wizard Mode - Your Last One)
Machine bursts into brimstone and fire, and as you watch you turn into a pillar of salt.
Funny. That's not what I immediately pictured for Sodom and Gomorrah mode.
Just sayin...
Quoted from tamoore:Can't talk about religion, only about a pinball machine about religion.
I'm going to start designing my gun control pinball machine... Humm.....
Apparently if he had said it was non-fiction, or not said at all, it wouldn't have been eject-worthy? 
Quoted from zr11990:The atorah is only the first 3 books of the Old Testament. But I guess most know that.
Quoted from fisherdaman:Never seen someone ejected that quickly.
Personalised service for the needy.
Quoted from fisherdaman:Never seen someone ejected that quickly. It's almost like religion is a touchy subject.
I mean in that case shouldn't this whole thread be ejected? Whysnow's post was no more "religious" than any other in this thread. If it was I missed it.
Quoted from Spelunk71:The Torah is actually the first 5 books of the Old Testament. While Jews believe that is the most important stuff, the rest of the Old Testament counts too.
And all this time I thought they were about the Germans attacking Pearl Harbor. 
It is a shame that some people can't separate this theme from a particular religion.
The Old Testament stories are so much more than any one religion, and I am not religious at all.
My recommendation is don't let your faith (or lack thereof) lead you to bias in this thread.
Quoted from Astropin:I mean in that case shouldn't this whole thread be ejected? Whysnow's post was no more "religious" than any other in this thread. If it was I missed it.
I don't think he should've been ejected. Pinside should add a feature where if you are ejected but your comment gets a bunch of likes you are resurrected. 
I'm trying to figure out why I got thumbs down to this comment.
Quoted from Mr68:Every playfield will be tested by some Roman pounding a nail through it.
Quoted from DCFAN:don't let your faith lead you to bias in this thread.
I have faith in whatever the moderators decide.
Man I'd love to join in the fun but I'm on a short leash these days. Carry on, I shall thumbs up from the sidelines!
Quoted from DCFAN:It is a shame that some people can't separate this theme from a particular religion.
The Old Testament stories are so much more than any one religion, and I am not religious at all.
My recommendation is don't let your faith (or lack thereof) lead you to bias in this thread.
This thread is no different than any other theme speculation thread. I think the Bon jovi thread had much more hate.
Quoted from o-din:They sent me to a Catholic military school and I'm not even Catholic. Heck, I don't even know what we were. Protestant, Presbyterian, Lutheran, who knows. We went to any and whatever churches were in the neighborhood.
But that military school took us to a Jewish Synagogue on a field trip and I did take note of those rolled up scrolls.
You mean the dead sea scrolls that pretty much agreed with the Old Testament? Never seen em.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Man I'd love to join in the fun but I'm on a short leash these days. Carry on, I shall thumbs up from the sidelines!
Chicken
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:Pretty sure Hilton has already started a moderator feedback thread
How does he juggle them all at once?
Quoted from zr11990:Chicken
You've been trying to get me banned for years!!!!!!!
Quoted from TheLaw:Yes but all religions held hands in the hatred of that pin so it's a tad diff'rent.
I feel like Bon Jovi has no gimmick for a pin. Their music is great they do don’t need one.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:You've been trying to get me banned for years!!!!!!!
Have not. You are actually one of my favorite people on here.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:You've been trying to get me banned for years!!!!!!!
Let's be honest here Levi.. if neither you nor I has gotten banned for the things we've said over the years...I don't think we're at substantial risk here...lol.
Quoted from zr11990:I feel like Bon Jovi has no gimmick for a pin. Their music is great they do don’t need one.
Think Ben could license "Living on a Prayer" for the game?
Quoted from zr11990:Bon Jovi has no gimmick for a pin. Their music is great they do don’t need one.
I would buy this machine in a heartbeat on the condition that he releases it under the name Ben Hell.
Quoted from fisherdaman:I don't think he should've been ejected. Pinside should add a feature where if you are ejected but your comment gets a bunch of likes you are resurrected.
Yes he should have been ejected. Good call by the moderators.
His comments attacked anyone that believes in religion.
Saying you think the pinball theme is lame is
one thing. But denigrating someones faith by calling it fictitious is another thing. I hope you can see the difference.
Quoted from Sammy31:Yes he should have been ejected. Good call by the moderators.
His comments attacked anyone that believes in religion.
Saying you think the pinball theme is lame is
one thing. But denigrating someones faith by calling it fictitious is another thing. I hope you can see the difference.
I get what you're saying but others were promoting or defending religious comments here and with no penalty. Isn't that the same thing?
Quoted from Rockytop:I'll say this to everyone in this thread. Believing or not believing in something is your business.
Disparaging Christianity is something you should be better than.
There are over 2 billion people on the planet that identify as Christians. That's a descent size potential audience for a pin.
if you can't laugh at yourself...
Quoted from TheLaw:It's a weird on because the religion of pre-paying for games was thought to be crufified but when you least expect it shall rise again.
It's called pre-praying.... 
Quoted from TheLaw:It's a weird on because the religion of pre-paying for games was thought to be crufified but when you least expect it shall rise again.
Nothing get's crucified until after the guilty get stoned.
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