How does the PF look?

The wrinkling is a little bit much, but I'd go for it, Dan. How often do you find a CC in that kind of condition?

That seems like the right price range, maybe the top IMO. That looks to be an average condition pin at best.

I'd take it for 10

Depends on the pf, if really nice that is not a terrible price

It sounds about right.

Ive seen CC's with decal damage way worse then that. If the PF is nice especially near the mine kickout I think its a fair price.

Have you played it before? CC is a game that gets its value from its short production run not by its gameplay. IMO its only considered a "A" list game cause of this. Gameplay left much to be desired.

Can you show some pics of the playfield please?

Seems like a good price for one.

Yup. pf, pf, pf especially for a CC. You can always re decal the cab (a pain but doable) but you will have to fix the pf if it has issues. Finding a CC pf is next to impossible and some of the pf plastics if broken. Usually there is wear around the drop targets and the mine shaft on a well played CCs.

Its a steal at that price, you should start looking for a BSD to.

What is that tape-like residue on the top left corner of the backglass?

Other than that, looks pretty good!

Great price! A steal really

I like the added spotlights on the slings. Was actually thinking of doing the same exact thing just last night. The center of the playfield is a little dark as it sits stock.

MrWizzo, You need to make the deal... CC don't come up often. Yes, it may need some TLC to bring it back to how you like it, but its a CC. Get it before someone else does. Price is fair!!!

Buy it and never look back.

Don't think I've ever seen a remote battery holder on the outside of the backbox before... P8200014.JPG

Probably where the operator advertised his business location and number. Probably something like for quality amusements games call Joes Amusements 555-55-5555 Anytown Va

its a good deal! On Ebay it would bring 11 plus

I agree with above. It is a very nice example at the going rate. There is bit more to the top here.

Yeah, I really need to get on the job of bug-hunting on CCC to make it into something other people can use -- shouldn't be TOO much longer before it's able to be shared -- won't be "finished", but it'd at least be done enough that it wouldn't be embarrassing to hand out.

great price and a steal? I don't know about that. Nice looking game tho, but falls flat in the play department. If you have room for 400 games, its' not a big deal. If you only have room for 10-20, it's taking up valuable floor space that you need for actual fun games that can hold the tests of time better. With limited space, it's better to have quality games, than showpony bragging rights games.

In my own selfish way, I'm glad you bought it. I've never played one, and living vicariously is much cheaper.

It's always tough to evaluate via pictures, but it looks pretty darn nice to me.

nope, your post was on top of the list, since you just posted. Hence I had to check it out and see what a recent CC sold for. I was more talking to the guy who said it was a great steal. That was an over exaggeration. Condition wise, it's in great shape and if that's the game your intended to buy, you found one that really doesn't need anything.

btw, I didn't see the thread of someone completing the software. I hope they do. I don't mind CC actually. I prefer it over MM, and wish it was more complete. With the playfield layout, so much more could be done and added to the rules. I play it when I see it, but usually a couple of plays fills my desire enough. Just like the DE SW thread. If those roms get updated, it's going to completely change the desire for the game. Same goes for CC. Right now it's just to much of showpony pin, but could be so much more.

Congrats on the CC! Seat it with pride next to the incoming F-14.

true, but more people must think like you do, or the price on CC wouldn't be so stupidly high. 1000 games is a lot of games made. People act is if it's so rare, but it's really not. Same with MM, there are 4600 of them out there. That's more than TOTAN and CV combined in production numbers, but some spew on here, that's its a rare game. But you did ask for opinions on this thread. and if someone would buy this or not. I gave my opinion. You may not have liked it because I don't agree, but when you ask for opinions you have to expect both sides of the fence. I have Orbitor 1. 800 made. If I paid a high price for mine, and asked for opinions, I know i'm going to get some people that think I just threw my money down the toilet. It's going to be a love it or hate it thread. Same goes for all the high end pins, you just have to expect and prepare yourself for it. If you notice, every CV thread has me throwing my .02 cents in on how great it is. Just like i'll throw my hate in on every Shit tales thread. Just the way it is.

F14 is a fast game. Clearcoated besides? I can't even imagine. Going to be a ball buster for sure. Fun game tho.

...but why? In this thread, Dan was not asking if CC is a good game; he was asking if this one is indicative of the price. Your negative rants about the games you don't like only serve to devalue your praise of the games you do like.

I highly respect your ability when it comes to playfield restoration, but your game ratings are suspect. This is not because your opinions are wrong, but because the way you present them is so inflammatory and unwelcome.

Yep, a CC'd F14 will be brutal. My TZ was restored and clearcoated by none other than CaptainNeo a couple years ago, and it completely changed the game. I had to reset all the high scores since it was so much faster that it took a couple months before I could even get to LITZ.

well, I praise just as many games as I hate on. I'm more critical on the overhyped B/W titles because of the number of b/w snobs there are who won't give the time of day to any other manufacturer, except a new sterns here and there. They are so pro bally williams, that I throw out over negative remarks to even it back out. But even the games I love (like CV) I don't think are worth the stupid pricing right now either. I love my CV (it's my favorite game), but damn if I don't think someone is on crack for paying 9k for one. Yes I love it..but for 9k, mines going out the door. It's just not worth keeping when stupid money is thrown around.

He was asking if people would buy this CC. When asking that question, you have to take in account, condition, desire, and gameplay with ratio to available space. I think my opinion was spot on for the thread. He didn't ask specifically if he paid to much or not, asked if I would buy this...I said no and reason why.

Smaller collections have less room to carry dead weight pins that won't get played. That's just the way I see it. I also look at diversity in the collection. When I first started, the 4 pins I wanted was FH, TAF, TZ and ES. That's all I wanted. After I got those, I realized they were all the same damn game. Didn't know shit about designers back then and didn't know the same guy made all 4. over time 2 were phased out and replaced with games that were unique and diverse.

"captain" neo always rants on anything over $500. ignore.

This I agree with 100%.

Glad you found one that fit your tastes. Tron got lonely so I adopted Gorgar to keep him company... thinking about doing a clearcoat for a winter project.

I don't think it's judgemental at all. Some games are more showpony status than fun factor. It's just the way it is. I have a Miss World (1 of 4). Is it a fun game? Not really. It's a showpony piece. Does that make me superficial for owning it and keeping it, maybe a little, but i'm willing to accept that, because the rest of my collection is quality, diverse and exactly the way I want it. So a little showpony bragging rights doesn't really effect me. If your collection is all showpony bragging rights (remember Gary), then you have small wiener issues.

as hard as it was to read this post, I think I managed to get through it. You still asked everyone if THEY would buy it. Even if you did, the question is still there asking for opinions. I know you bought it, but you still asked everyone if they would buy it. That will open up the door and take in consideration their specific situation on why they would or would not.

And if only the positive opinions were allowed in forums, it would be a very one sided opinion on every game. How can someone get input on something if only the positive aspects of it are allowed to be known. That's the way oil companies and plastics companies operate. They arn't going to tell you the negative effects. Same holds true here. When people are giving opinions about games, I don't want to read just the good things about it, I want to know lots of opinions and hear about the bad things as well, and why. How do I know a game i've never seen is even worth trying to find one to play, if you don't hear both sides of the fence. Something that might sound very negative to you, might not be that negative to someone else.

Example: for some people, half completed rules might not be a big deal. Something they can live with. Art package and theme might be their main reasoning for buying a game. But at least they know what they are getting into by listening to both sides of the fence. For me Fan pattern is a very negative aspect of a game. Personally i'm sick of it, but to someone else it might be the buying factor for them.

And some games are just show pony status games. When the price far exceeds the fun factor, they are showpony games. Just the way it is. It's not saying anything about the owner or making judgement on the owner. Everyone already knows which games are status games, and which ones arn't. Seems lately all A titles are becoming Showponies with the way prices have been going.

Nice buy Dan.MM would have looked good next to CC.Any regrets about selling MM?

Think he took his ball and bat and went home, after realizing nobody was bowing to him, for his primo collection of nice pins that never ever get played. I don't think anyone shed a tear.

Just go for it and doin't look back and have fun with it.