Machine guns, explosions, the battles?
There where a few war themed games in the past.
Now you really can't have nazi symbols in it as that makes it a hard sell world wide. also some of older ones had to be changed for some over seas markets.
It's an idea. Though I don't think people will want a history lesson while playing.
Might be hard to sell in Europe. Two world wars in the last century and they may have heard enough about them.
LTG : )
Quoted from LTG:It's an idea. Though I don't think people will want a history lesson while playing.
Might be hard to sell in Europe. Two world wars in the last century and they may have heard enough about them.
LTG : )
as well some taste issues in the usa if a game covers some issues as well.
Now war games have worked good on the pc / consoles. But it's hard to move that to pinball and have it be good.
Quoted from Joe_Blasi:as well some taste issues in the usa if a game covers some issues as well.
Now war games have worked good on the pc / consoles. But it's hard to move that to pinball and have it be good.
Tropic Thunder pinball. That way everyone knows it's a spoof.
Not a good idea to base a game on a war that killed thousands of people. It was thought about previously by Data East with Operation Desert Storm.
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4007
John
Quoted from Dayhuff:Not a good idea to base a game on a war that killed thousands of people. It was thought about previously by Data East with Operation Desert Storm.
http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=4007
John
Point taken, but about 1000 video games have been based on WW2 with no kick back.
Why would the telling of this war via a pinball machine be viewed as a negative? Honest question.
Terry.
I actually thought about this the other day....funny you post this. I was thinking if the pin was set from an air craft carrier perspective. Different modes would include defending the ship from aerial assualt, attack other ships, depth charges, etc
The cab side art would look like a P-51 Mustang.
Quoted from pinballlife:Point taken, but about 1000 video games have been based on WW2 with no kick back.
Why would the telling of this war via a pinball machine be viewed as a negative? Honest question.
Terry.
Great point. I don't have an answer.
I think that video games and pinball are two totally separate things. Yes there both from the arcade era but that's about the extent of it. Just because it's "acceptable" for the video game market doesn't mean its a good thing for the pinball market. People like to play/pretend that there killing something on a video screen by pointing a plastic gun two inches from the screen....not sure why but I guess it's because they cant do it in real life maybe? Probably why shows like Walking Dead are so popular, "lets see how many zombies we can kill off in the next sixty minutes".....ugh!!
Why drag pinball down to that level and what would be the gain? I seriously doubt that a game based on a world war would sell enough to even break even for any manufacture in the hobby. And again why would they want to associate there brand name to anything that negative?
That would be like Ford bragging about how there white bronco's are the first choice for a getaway vehicle. Maybe not the same thing but you get the idea.
John
Lets Steal some stuff already done.
Use the POTC Sinking ship, and make it a Battleship.
Use the Bomber, dead center from Tommy.
add a land mine course from Path of the Dead.
Grab some stuff from IJ.
A cannon Firing from AC/Dc
Maybe a beachfront lower play field.
Each branch has its missions, and the all work to end with the Enola Gay.
Multi Ball and overlapping Military Branch Modes, are orchestrated to the 1812 overture.
Extra Flashers mounted for explosions.
Include Big Band/Swing music.
I was thinking the buildup and progress towards a goal would lend itself to good gameplay. I mean we won? Right? I think I think it could be done w/o getting too specific or negative
A WW2 battle tank pin would be ideal. Something like from the movie Fury.
Image the player/players with a tank that is slightly setback from the flippers. And a cannon in the same area (obviously above the tank) that shoots all the balls. The display would have a map with different missons to progress and to go to join new battles. As you destory tanks you could upgrade your armor, increase ammo (extra balls), earn rankings. You could even go heads up or team play online with other players. With an online ranking system. Even have monthly payouts to top players/teams.
Thoughts?
Quoted from Dayhuff:Not a good idea to base a game on a war that killed thousands of people.
Jesus if you're going to complain get the scope right. Saying "thousands of people died" in WWII is insulting enough by itself
I think it would be cool if done Axis and Allies (the board game) style. Pick your country and try to win the war. Battle of Midway multiball!!! Each country has different rules for victory. I'd be interested in the title.
I've always thought an American Civil War game would be cool as well, or one set in early Roman times but based on countries fighting for dominance of the Mediterranean. A war theme could be really cool.
I don't think it's a good idea may work if based on a comedy hogan's heroe's or something or world of tanks pc game?
Maybe das boot or boat sub game?
Quoted from TheLaw:Jesus if you're going to complain get the scope right. Saying "thousands of people died" in WWII is insulting enough by itself
So is even suggesting that a game should be based on it.
John
Not a theme I would care for, but I didn't want to reenlist either. If I was going to base a pin on a similar concept I would chose a scenario like WarGames where it was winning at or preventing nuclear war or a game like Plague where you are trying to kill everyone by creating and spreading disease.
I guess I would prefer something that has a less 'real' theme.
Quoted from bangerjay:I was thinking the buildup and progress towards a goal would lend itself to good gameplay. I mean we won? Right? I think I think it could be done w/o getting too specific or negative
Many nations lost on so many levels. So if you were a part one of those countries you wouldn't play it?
"I mean we won? Right?" One of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read on pinside.
Quoted from Joe_Blasi:There where a few war themed games in the past.
Now you really can't have nazi symbols in it as that makes it a hard sell world wide. also some of older ones had to be changed for some over seas markets.
Only in germany, afaik, swastikas are usually tolerated if it fits the theme in
other places
Special Force by Balmy is based on Vietnam. I had one and it was cool to collect bombs and use them on the village, but wrong.
Quoted from TigerLaw:Each country has different rules for victory.
I could dig it. Kinda like a cross between "Risk" and that old game "Age of Empires." I could see something along the lines of each country having different advantages and disadvantages.
I do agree with with other's opinions where a game specifically revolving around WWII might be a touch to sensitive in certain regions, however, It'd be fun to see some creative liberties taken with a war theme. Maybe start the game with revolutionary era weapon sets, but as the player progresses through the game, weapon sets advance to more modern ones--similar to the river progression in white water.
WWI or WWII would be fascinating titles. Only thing that might be a struggle would be putting swastica art on your machine. But with the theme wouldn't it be impossible to ignore it.
Which part of WW II do you want?
European Theatre?
Which part of the ET?
* D-Day at Sword Beach? Normandy? etc.
* Battle of the Bulge?
* B-17 daytime bombing runs?
* British night time bombing runs?
* Death Camp rescues?
* U-2 Wolfpacks?
South Pacific?
* Pearl Harbor?
* Midway?
* Doolittle's aircraft carrier bomb run to Japan?
* Some island hopping from Guadalcanal all the way up to the point where two nukes were dropped on Japan?
China/ Burma/ India?
* Go behind enemy lines in Burma with Gen. Stillwell ? Call it Merrill's Marauders ?
There are a lot of stories in WW II. Lots of back patting moments. And lots of ways to insult lots of people.
To keep the game from upsetting people a licensed theme would probably be best. Something like Wolfenstein where you could escape a castle full of Nazis or even based on a movie like Where Eagles Dare would be great.
Seems a little depressing for a pinball game. I can't think of any war themed game - Operation Thunder, Raven, Special Forces - that I'd want in my collection.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:Seems a little depressing for a pinball game. I can't think of any war themed game - Operation Thunder, Raven, Special Forces - that I'd want in my collection.
what are you talking about i know you secretly would love to have a raven
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