I never have understood the IJ4 hate. It just goes to show the difference between casual players and owners. I have 6 machines and stern Indy gets played 4 to 1 over everything else when we have guests. People love it and gravitate to it. Yes it is fairly easy but casual players can bang around on it and easily have a good time. I still enjoy it as well. I bet it used to do well on a route.