In that case, probably best for your sanity to avoid threads like this.

Keep them. I'd rather you defend your reputation by posting a picture of them here yourself... that is assuming you fixed the "quality".

Wow. Must have sold the Simpsons
Joe is a great guy to deal with, and I have pinblades or power blades on almost all of my games. Snake mod for Met, coffin decal, etc. I have never received a bad product from him and have always seen him make things right (like he just tried to do).
I think people may get a little carried away on the internet and forget that these mod makers are real love people. I've met and become friends with people at pinball shows and realize that of course any business is going to make mistakes. The important thing is making it right.
Seeing how much work and passion goes into these things makes me appreciate Joe and others. I know I certainly am not capable of running out to my garage and whipping up a set of power blades, so I'm grateful for those that can.

I will also have to defend Pingraffix and joe, joe has a big heart , and even bigger love for pinball, i think hes got 10+ years now, out of 40+ machines in my collection at least 1/2 have his mods, i also agree with him, if you want to bash others that try to provide a product for our pinball machines, show us what you got? Easy to complain, and be negative, why not give an opinion that’s positive and may help others that have our love for pinball create something more spectacular.

I had two opportunities to buy pinball companies that create mods (they're still around, but owned by other companies). The attitude of some here on Pinside is what made me ultimately decide to pass. At my age, I couldn't imagine dealing with grown men crying about things that weren't up to their perceived standards of quality. I applaud everyone who actually puts up with that shit with a smile. I certainly couldn't do it.

PS - I just bought a bunch of mods. One that I received wasn't what I was expecting. But I realized it was better than no mod at all, and I can always choose to send it back or not install it.

There are hundreds of pro-mod threads. Let us have this one.

Ha thanks, to be fair the tie fighter in front of the death star is also grossly out of scale as is the millenium falcon. Honestly, I think scale is relative in pinball, and that stormtrooper didn't last long as I replaced him with an emporer with blue leds under his lightning and again, hooked up to the pops flasher. You cant even see the pops in that game. Now when they go off I see them with emporer lightning!

Why cant they all be pro-mods, i had a problem with a mod, i contacted the mod maker, I didn’t come here to bitch him out, instead i kept it private

Mods are awesome. There is nothing more boring than ordinary. Adding your own creative ideas to your machine make it unique and less ordinary. Just make sure they can be removed easily when it comes time to selling. Not everyone will share your 'vision'.

I get it, sometimes you gotta snap back; all fair to me.

I'll do you 11 better and we can drink all night! I might piss on your couch thou. I'm ready to tackle some GC too if only I could see the PF hardy har!

I don't even know what this means You want me to make something "better" of things I don't care for?
You want me to contact the mod maker and tell him his mods can bet better and I don't care for them? Seems like, way more rude.

Making mods is not "doing incredible things for the hobby"

I disagree. My Tron would've looked like crap without modders stepping in and blinging it out. And Joe does make some incredible mods for games; my AFM light-up side blades are a perfect example, as is the light up armor for my SWLE. Thank God for these guys...they bring a whole new level of fun to an already addictive hobby.

I have to admit, you tee'd it up for him. This is a thread mod makers should avoid. You don't see the Pinstadium guy commenting and his mod is probably the number one bashed mod. I guess he's too busy cashing checks.

That's a bad idea. All you'll do is create a bunch of OP dictators.

My turn to disagree. Tron looked great out the box. Yours probably looked like the Disney gift shop when you were done with it.

lol

mod makers have some thin skin

this is like thinking making a spoiler for a honda civic is important to the automobile industry

I am enjoying this thread.

The buyer didn't think so.

I'll take one for the team here..... Send me a free set of Black Knight SoR and I'll be happy to take a closeup of the quality and post the results here

In a website that praises dumb posts, this is really at the bottom.

I'm shocked that somebody would not only feel that was a good idea, but they would actually say it out loud. Embarrassing and shameful

I'm sure the quality on Pingraffix Black Knight blades and most others are excellent. He just talked about how great the new printing equipment he has is and I'm sure those Black Knight blades would be made with it. But he glossed over that he still outsources the printing of the Simpsons blades in the above post... despite his promise to remove them from his store... Thats why he can't put a photo of his Simpsons blades here... he doesn't make them and he doesn't have them. All he has to do is put a photo of his new superior Simpsons blades here to make me eat crow. But he deflected above and won't post them here. Until then, Pingraffix Simpsons blades will be my vote for worst mod ever.

I'd also like to nominate Classic Arcade Overlays for worst mod (or at least a runner up). Check out the overlay with missing art, colors, and more! You can't see the quality until after it is applied and... surprise! no refunds without shipping back the original... that you just sanded down your playfield to bare wood to even see. I ended up going to the Licensor to apply pressure to get my money back.

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You’re being too picky, someone will make a mod that adds the missing art

You can't imagine the look on my face after stripping down the top side of an AFM... sanding it down... and then applying the decal to see no Brandenburg gate, no big ben, no two color reds, misaligned holes. Classic Arcade Overlays from Ebay folks! Where is my Statue of Liberty!

Here is the story https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/afm-overlay-disapointed-pics-inside#post-5811500

Turned into my first playfield swap though... That was an educational experience!

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Finally I think everyone can agree on that one. Long known for ripping people off. Def one of the bad ones in a sea of good.

For those of you not super familiar with Attack From Mars. This is what it is supposed to look like. This is a CPR Playfield. This particular example had a small printing error (and a huge discount) but even still look at the difference in quality.

Take careful note of the center inserts and the art behind it like the Statue of Liberty, Eifel Tower, and Tower or Pisa.

Bonus points to the nerd that can spot the printing error in this example.

The CPR playfield is a good mod that has saved many pins.

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Straight out of the Disney gift shop. Not many Tron pros that look like this.

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But I like the Disney gift shop!

Wrong red bordering the inserts?

Look at the art behind "USA" in the overlay and then look at it in the correct CPR playfield. Look at the "Tractor Beam" insert to the right of "USA". Look at the colors surrounding the insert between the two. Look at the correct red on the CPR playfield and then look at the orange that is supposed to be red in the overlay. Look at the skin tone on the lady between the flippers.

Please note that the Statue of Liberty is completely missing from the overlay.

Agreed, Joe is a stand up guy who I have had nothing but great experiences with. Sounds more like people posting here dont like mods... dont like em...don't buy em.. why does it need to be discussed?

Appreciate all the kind words and love fellas thank you. You know who you are.
Yes, I probably should have stayed out of this thread for sure. Without a doubt. Going forward I will be hitting the ignore button on this one.
The Law ..I'm sorry I came in here punching...you seem like a legit guy. Please stop by our booth and any of the shows. Beers are on me.
Sat-n dude..please come and stop by out booth at Allentown to see the blades in person. But something tells me you will never be happy.
BTW..I now make them in house and also thanks for the boost in web traffic yesterday. So please keep bashing away.
I also make all of Jersey Jack Factory Art Blades for Wizard of Oz, Dialed in and Guns N Roses... soon their next title.
Guess my quality isn't that great huh???
Have a nice day.
Joe

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I'd feel better if it was a picture of the actual blade, but I'll take it.

As promised, I am eating crow. If they are delivered to the customer like that, then you have addressed the issue.

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I meant for the CPR printing error. Trying to find whatever you're referring to.

SPOILER- Look underneath all of the jackpots... One of these is not like the others... which made these go at a discount as printing errors. Yep... second from the right.

…because it’s a forum. That is literally the purpose, to discuss.

If people like a mod they will buy it, if they don’t, they won’t. It’s unlikely anything said here is going to change hearts and minds, aside from calling out the really shoddy products, which is an actual service to the community.

No worries Joe! I'll make sure to if I'm around.

I suppose you are correct, I guess it's just how I live.. I generally avoid negativity...

Mercifully.

Seriously.

I would have added the Tron chicks alternate translite as well, but that's a bitchin' looking game!

I have always found a relationship between the number of mods someone has on the game to how well/often they play pinball.

Just me? I dont know anyone who is a good/tourney type player who has mods on any game.

Some people play em and some people use them like a dress up doll I guess?

Always enjoy for the for sale ads that say the game has 105 plays and 4k in mods.

Curious if people consider some mods more useful like those fans under a playfield?
Never tried them because I haven’t experienced much flipper fade.

Never had Flipper fade, and never had a super loud fan that needed quieting. I've always wondered if any of it's true or not. Guess I just have...'good electricity?'

The power supply fans on Stern spike 2 games are a little noisy in a home environment

So I've been told but never really noticed. Just lucky so far!

I have this wonderful little fan from PinMonk, that is ready to be installed because my power supply sounds like a jet engine.

I get the power supply out, kind of step back from the "remove this - go to jail" blah blah blah sticker from Stern, and reinstall it less the fan. I'll wait - a few more months until the machine drops out of warranty and then, yep, install it. Maybe I am being a chicken, but... I did install the flipper fans and they are amazing.

Definitely not just you! I can only think of one glaring exception: JPW (if you know, you know). When I first played at his house, I was surprised to see mods all over the place.