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Worst hack/repair you ever saw.


By mcclad

7 years ago



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    #2751 66 days ago
    #2752 65 days ago

    Is this how baby diodes are made?

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    #2753 65 days ago
    Quoted from Kevlar51:

    Is this how baby diodes are made?
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    When I see hacks like that, it makes me cringe. Not because it works or didn't, but because that kind of diode problem can be SO easily fixed with the right part and 5 minutes to do it right. Easy to access the soldering pads, simple old part removal and new part install. It could have been a nearly invisible repair. But, when all the repair guy had is a book of matches and a 'black thing with a silver bar on one side that looks kinda like that gizmo that blew up" rolling around his truck's ashtray for the past year, I guess that is what results...

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    #2754 65 days ago
    Quoted from Markharris2000:

    When I see hacks like that, it makes me cringe. Not because it works or didn't, but because that kind of diode problem can be SO easily fixed with the right part and 5 minutes to do it right

    Well there you said it - 'with the right part'

    The route guy didn't always have the right part - but the game had to be made to work to earn.. or face someone screaming to get that broken thing out there.

    Not sure why this is a recurring message that needs to be repeated... The #1 goal was get the game earning again - not beauty.

    #2755 65 days ago
    Quoted from flynnibus:

    Well there you said it - 'with the right part'
    The route guy didn't always have the right part - but the game had to be made to work to earn.. or face someone screaming to get that broken thing out there.
    Not sure why this is a recurring message that needs to be repeated... The #1 goal was get the game earning again - not beauty.

    Point taken and good reminder. Route operators need to get it back into service as fast as possible. Enthusists have a different point of view as we see the secondary market. Us armchair quarterbacks see the fixes years after they were done, and try to imagine how WE would handle it, in a non-revenue situation.

    #2756 65 days ago

    The worst hack repair I ever saw occurs whenever I get together with a solder gun.

    #2757 64 days ago

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    #2758 64 days ago

    So, what's the deal with that plaintiff's exhibit on Pengad legal label? I'd like to know the story behind that!

    #2759 63 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    So, what's the deal with that plaintiff's exhibit on Pengad legal label? I'd like to know the story behind that!

    Oh, so would I. Nothing else on the machine indicates to why it was involved in some litigation.

    #2760 63 days ago
    Quoted from songofsixpence:

    Oh, so would I. Nothing else on the machine indicates to why it was involved in some litigation.

    Damn. I was expecting something interesting here..

    #2761 63 days ago

    The bottom section of the board appears to have corrosion or some other defect. Perhaps the plaintiff was identifying a poor design and lack of ownership on outcomes? I don't think this is part of some sinister plot or other high crime situation. Just a guess...

    #2762 63 days ago
    Quoted from Crash:

    So, what's the deal with that plaintiff's exhibit on Pengad legal label? I'd like to know the story behind that!

    I'm gonna guess someone just happened to score a bunch of labels they knew could uniquely identify parts of an assembly for warranty purposes, vs. spending money on custom labels. Penny saved is a penny earned or some nonsense like that..

    Richard

    #2763 63 days ago

    I saw this for sale on a german forum.
    Good hack if you had your hands amputaded.

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    #2764 63 days ago
    Quoted from melappels:

    I saw this for sale on a german forum.
    Good hack if you had your hands amputaded.
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    Wow, looks like that game was dropped down an elevator shaft lengthwise, and "almost" fit, shaving off the buttons (and scraping the blades). And no "Sacrifice" button anymore!

    #2765 63 days ago
    Quoted from melappels:

    I saw this for sale on a german forum.
    Good hack if you had your hands amputaded.
    [quoted image][quoted image]

    There is a pinsider in the USA with only one arm. He has some sort of contraption that operates both flippers with one hand.

    #2766 63 days ago
    Quoted from Markharris2000:

    The bottom section of the board appears to have corrosion or some other defect. Perhaps the plaintiff was identifying a poor design and lack of ownership on outcomes? I don't think this is part of some sinister plot or other high crime situation. Just a guess...

    I would think someone may have gotten shocked when playing it which could be why the label is on a board. I've seen several cases of games not being properly grounded and slightly electrocuting me.

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    #2767 34 days ago

    Crazy, soldering in a nicad battery in a game that uses non rechargeable batteries. Hope that battery had a good charge prior to soldering in!

    Additionally, why go through the trouble of replacing a partial 40 pin connector?

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    #2768 34 days ago
    Quoted from pinballplusMN:

    Additionally, why go through the trouble of replacing a partial 40 pin connector?
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    To get it flipping again faster. Sometimes the extra 10-15 minutes replacing the rest of the connector makes the difference between the operator getting it back out onto the floor, or getting told another machine goes in there. It's always, "get it earning again, and FAST!"

    #2769 33 days ago
    Quoted from LynnInDenver:

    To get it flipping again faster. Sometimes the extra 10-15 minutes replacing the rest of the connector makes the difference between the operator getting it back out onto the floor, or getting told another machine goes in there. It's always, "get it earning again, and FAST!"

    To us they are toys to be played with and shined and polished. To the operator that are tools to be used and cobbled together until every last drop of juice is squeezed out.

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    #2770 30 days ago

    I picked up a Captain Fantastic today. If the rubber ring breaks, just replace it with a zip tie.

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    #2771 26 days ago
    Quoted from Enaud:

    I picked up a Captain Fantastic today. If the rubber ring breaks, just replace it with a zip tie.[quoted image]

    And I'm sure the seller listed it as mint condition!

    #2772 24 days ago
    Quoted from Skidave:

    And I'm sure the seller listed it as mint condition!

    Or at the very least “all original”

    #2773 23 days ago
    Quoted from Tallon:

    Or at the very least “all original”

    How do you know they didn’t originally use zip ties?

    #2774 18 days ago

    Custom drop sling plastic for simpsons. Anyone know what game it from?

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    #2775 18 days ago

    Harlem maybe?

    #2776 18 days ago
    Quoted from zacaj:

    Harlem maybe?

    Yep, Harlem globetrotters.

    #2777 16 days ago
    Quoted from pinballplusMN:

    Custom drop sling plastic for simpsons. Anyone know what game it from?
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    I think it looks ok actually, at least it looks like it was cut properly, and the colors match somewhat with the surrounding area. Curious, is the plastic set available for this game?

    #2778 16 days ago
    Quoted from ButtonMash:

    anyone who has ever wrapped an exposed wire around a solder point instead of freakin soldering the thing...

    Yuppers. Custom jumpers.

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    #2779 16 days ago
    Quoted from Skidave:

    And I'm sure the seller listed it as mint condition!

    That is clearly a game in imamaculate condition.

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    #2780 16 days ago

    In my HS I just picked up a few months ago the lower pop bumper apparently stopped working... solution by some jackass? Well simply drill 5 wood screws around the bumper so the ball doesn't get lodged in the nook there.

    Genius.

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    #2781 16 days ago
    Quoted from Canuck_pinhead:

    drill 5 wood screws around the bumper so the ball doesn't get lodged in the nook there.

    Or perhaps remove the bumper completely and turn the resulting hole into a gobble hole?

    #2783 16 days ago
    Quoted from SarverSystems:

    Looks like a hardtop is in your future!

    Ya... thinking so... or I'll play the hell out of it and sell it on. Depends how much I love it.

    Just missed out on a CPR PF... though the cost is more than a hardtop... the work is a bit less I think.

    #2784 15 days ago
    Quoted from Canuck_pinhead:

    the work is a bit less I think

    It's not. With a hardtop you just strip the top. On a full swap you strip the top and bottom.

    #2785 15 days ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    It's not. With a hardtop you just strip the top. On a full swap you strip the top and bottom.

    Don't most people doing the hardtop do a lot of insert work and clearcoat it before sticking it down though for best results? That's more work to me.

    #2786 15 days ago

    The concept of transferring a harness and readjusting switch positions on a new playfield seems like so much more work to me versus laying down a Hardtop.

    #2787 15 days ago

    I remove all inserts and replace with all clear. That way I can use LEDs to make them whatever color the client wants.

    #2788 15 days ago
    Quoted from slochar:

    Don't most people doing the hardtop do a lot of insert work and clearcoat it before sticking it down though for best results? That's more work to me.

    Is 30 minutes really that much more work? That's how long I spent sanding my inserts to 3000 grit and then a quick coat of rattle can clear.

    #2789 15 days ago

    Seems to me an easy hour or less if the top of the playfield has been stripped. I've never had to do this, but it just makes sense. Once the top is disassembled, everything can be repaired and then smoothed perfectly, damaged or faded inserts can be replaced or repaired if needed, and then a simply clear across the whole thing just seems 'right' if you are paying $350 for a hardtop in the first place. Like anything, the best result is in the preparation itself.

    #2790 14 days ago
    Quoted from yaksplat:

    Is 30 minutes really that much more work? That's how long I spent sanding my inserts to 3000 grit and then a quick coat of rattle can clear.

    Not from the threads I was reading people were going way more over the top with it, sanding it and multiple coats.

    #2791 14 days ago
    Quoted from slochar:

    Not from the threads I was reading people were going way more over the top with it, sanding it and multiple coats.

    Some people will take anything to the extreme. Multiple coats of clear aren't necessary. The whole point is to remove flaws and then making the inserts clear again.

    #2792 14 days ago

    End of the day... I may do either (CPR Playfield swap or a Hardtop) or if I get bored of the machine I may sell it/trade it. I will get the Popbumper working prior though!!

    #2793 14 days ago

    If a CPR is available I would always lean towards this option. The main reason is it is the closest to OEM look and feel. Installing a hardtop is like a bandaid to me.

    Many times a pin needs new standup targets, switches, etc anyway so why not do it with a complete new playfield if it is available. The extra work needed is worth it.

    Don't think I have ever seen high_end_pins install a Hardtop.

    #2794 14 days ago
    Quoted from Pin-Pilot:

    Don't think I have ever seen high_end_pins install a Hardtop.

    Unfortunately, I think most have High End Pins taste but are on a Hardtops budget.

    Personally, I would never do a Hardtop, but that doesn't mean they aren't a good option for some. Just reminds me too much of the clear plastic on my grandparents' sofa for as long as they were alive. I hated sitting on that thing as the feel just wasn't what it should be. When in comes to my pins, I've made playfield repairs with paint, decals, Mylar, etc. as I prefer to keep the original feel of the game as designed. Keep it clean, keep it waxed, and enjoy it for what it is.

    #2795 14 days ago

    Let's get this topic back to its roots.

    I'm happy there was still a replacement for this strange science ramp, and that the client opted to replace it.

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    #2796 14 days ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    I disagree with your statement;
    I worked for a route op from August '79 to June '85. Pinball was big for a good portion of that time. When a service tech had a call, the rule was to get the game up and running bringing in quartrrs. We all carried drywall screws, nuts & bolts, drills and taps etc. We would bypass burnt connectors soldering jumpers to the rectifier board test points splicing into the wiring near the burnt connectors. Heck, Bernie Powers of Bally Field Service mentioned how a jumper to a test point or ground will keep a game earning if you did not have connectors and terminal pins. with you.
    Remember, these machines were designed and developed to make money for operators. Tournament play, home collectors and long term durability for a home collector were not high on the priority list.

    Well said my man.

    #2797 12 days ago

    So, not the worst Ive seen... the whole harness was a disaster, but i can't figure for the life of me why they would take a wire, solder it to 2 smaller wires, then try to fit both in a .100 pin? They did it on multiple wires, so it wasn't just a one off.

    I'm thinking they may have been able to solder, but not do connectors, and spliced a totally different one in?

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    #2798 12 days ago
    Quoted from statictrance:

    I'm thinking they may have been able to solder, but not do connectors, and spliced a totally different one in?

    Sounds reasonable. Perhaps no knowledge or access to the proper crimp tool.

    #2799 12 days ago

    Not the worst I have seen, but still not very pretty
    The game works but it is a no-brainer to remove the hack, clean it all up and put a fresh connector in.
    This is a power board from a Sega Frankenstein.

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    #2800 12 days ago
    Quoted from RobDutch:

    Not the worst I have seen, but still not very pretty

    I like the zip tie for good measure.

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