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Worst hack/repair you ever saw.


By mcclad

6 years ago



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    #1101 2 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    Speaking of fuse holders

    Penthouse fuse! Classy.

    faz

    #1102 2 years ago
    Quoted from Mk1Mod0:

    To someone who has never seen a Jones plug it doesn't look like a plug.

    To someone who has never seen a Tootsie Roll it doesn't look like candy.

    #1103 2 years ago
    Quoted from skywalker:

    OP worst nightmare on the out lanes

    Hack? More like a must have Mod. Where can I buy this?

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    #1104 2 years ago
    Quoted from PDX_Pinball:

    Hack? More like a must have Mod. Where can I buy this?

    Each game is $5 though

    #1105 2 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    , "what da hey"?

    New product I am going to sell on eBay brilliant! Fuse adapter boards.

    #1106 2 years ago
    Quoted from PDX_Pinball:

    Hack? More like a must have Mod

    Should be shaped better so that a fast ball would auto shatz. Like a puck going around the net.

    #1107 2 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    Speaking of fuse holders, this isn't the worst hack I've seen but it did make me think, "what da hey"?
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    Now compatible with circuit breakers!

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    #1108 2 years ago

    Saw this on another site, not pinball related, but similar theme.

    I sure hope that's a left-hand thread on that screw

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    #1109 2 years ago
    Quoted from markp99:

    Saw this on another site, not pinball related, but similar theme.
    I sure hope that's a left-hand thread on that screw

    OOF that color coding is certainly a guessing game!

    #1110 2 years ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    OOF that color coding is certainly a guessing game!

    Nah...red for fire starter. Not hard at all.

    #1111 2 years ago
    Quoted from dudah:

    OOF that color coding is certainly a guessing game!

    I had an early SS game from the 70s where the standard wire colors were reversed for the 5v and 12v rails. I checked another game in case it was a hack or mistake in mine, but apparently, it was manufactured that way.

    #1112 2 years ago

    I once spent a ridiculous amount of time troubleshooting the electrical system of a 45' sport fisher. The wiring seemed to change color inside every bulkhead pass through. I'm pretty certain someone did that on purpose. I couldn't figure it out until I had a helper pulling on the wires as I labeled them. Probably part of the reason I am going bald. But I digress...

    I once owned a Duotron that had all of the wiring to the head cut through. Came that way. It looked pretty much like the ones pictured above.

    #1113 2 years ago
    Quoted from phillyfan64:

    This is my World Fair machine. No idea why somebody cut the harness in half when all they had to do was unplug the jones plugs. The wire colors don't even match but it actually works fine.

    I picked up a Chicago coin big ball bowler that had the same thing done, but they put male/female spade lugs on it. And the crimps weren't good either so half of them were missing. Replaced them all with butt connectors like the ones in your picture and made sure they were crimped with the proper tools. Most wires were faded so after doing them all only got 2 wrong and luckily they were only 2 lamp wires.

    Owner had the game in the basement installed 25 years ago by some coin op company. 2 years ago decided to move it out to barn but couldn't figure out how to separate everything so started cutting and labeling everything. Said it never worked right when it was in the barn. I told him about the connectors and he didn't believe me so i showed him and he just shook his head and said he felt bad about cutting it up.

    #1114 2 years ago

    Not sure what would possess someone to do this. That wire form isnt going anywhere.

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    #1115 2 years ago

    Sometimes the hole gets hogged out from the ball hitting the wire form so many times. I've seen that on of the games I worked on, but someone used a much smaller screw that was less obvious and hardly noticeable. I left it alone rather then mess with it, since it was secure.

    For an ugly repair like that, I'd probably take the time and repair it properly.

    #1116 2 years ago

    It's so easy also! Bondo and gray paint! Not even dithering or anything else on that spot!

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    #1117 2 years ago

    Here's one. Is there some reason for this I'm not aware of or did they just not know how to operate their cutters? I was going to start a thread for this question but I believe it belongs here.

    Edit: also notice the resistor clot in the background.

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    #1118 2 years ago
    Quoted from polyacanthus:

    did they just not know how to operate their cutters?

    I would guess they did not realize there were holes there? And soldered it on like a surface mount component? Just a guess...

    #1119 2 years ago
    Quoted from polyacanthus:

    Here's one. Is there some reason for this I'm not aware of or did they just not know how to operate their cutters? I was going to start a thread for this question but I believe it belongs here.
    Edit: also notice the resistor clot in the background.

    I've got the same thing on one of my system 6 driver boards. Makes me wonder, why are sockets that tall made in the first place?

    #1120 2 years ago
    Quoted from Mk1Mod0:

    I would guess they did not realize there were holes there? And soldered it on like a surface mount component? Just a guess...

    That's what I thought at first until I pulled the board and they appear to be in the holes.

    Quoted from zacaj:

    Makes me wonder, why are sockets that tall made in the first place?

    Fair question. I don't think anyone is using 1" thick PCBs.

    #1121 2 years ago
    Quoted from polyacanthus:

    That's what I thought at first until I pulled the board and they appear to be in the holes.

    Fair question. I don't think anyone is using 1" thick PCBs.

    I made use of one of these once when a previous person had replaced the cmos ram, but not socketed it (ugh) and lifted many traces in the process. I happened to have a tall 22 pin socket around, so I raised it up a half inch off the board, allowing me to solder from the top side as well as the bottom so I could get all the traces. Doesn't look like this was done on my other board or yours though, from what I can tell

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    #1122 2 years ago
    Quoted from zacaj:

    Makes me wonder, why are sockets that tall made in the first place?

    They're called wire-wrap sockets - an oldskool way to prototype circuits:

    #1123 2 years ago
    Quoted from zacaj:

    Makes me wonder, why are sockets that tall made in the first place?

    ...and for daughterboards.

    #1124 2 years ago
    Quoted from polyacanthus:

    Here's one. Is there some reason for this I'm not aware of or did they just not know how to operate their cutters? I was going to start a thread for this question but I believe it belongs here.
    Edit: also notice the resistor clot in the background.

    Someone may have pulled out the through hole plating so they used a wire wrap socket I order to solder the traces on the component side of the board. Instead I would have used a machine socket since you can still do solder from the top too and not have it stick up like that.

    For the resistor mess in the background they probably didn't have a resistor pack and didn't want to wait to order the proper one so they just made one....

    #1125 2 years ago
    Quoted from zacaj:

    I made use of one of these once when a previous person had replaced the cmos ram, but not socketed it (ugh) and lifted many traces in the process. I happened to have a tall 22 pin socket around, so I raised it up a half inch off the board, allowing me to solder from the top side as well as the bottom so I could get all the traces. Doesn't look like this was done on my other board or yours though, from what I can tell

    Actually that may be the case here, though the full inch probably wasn't necessary There are other smoked traces on the boards from bad soldering.

    Quoted from Quench:

    They're called wire-wrap sockets - an oldskool way to prototype circuits:

    Oooh yea.

    Quoted from dothedoo:

    ...and for daughterboards.

    True.

    Quoted from Robotworkshop:

    Someone may have pulled out the through hole plating so they used a wire wrap socket I order to solder the traces on the component side of the board. Instead I would have used a machine socket since you can still do solder from the top too and not have it stick up like that.

    I think soldering from both sides must've been the intent as you guys suggest but they are actually machined sockets so they could've done it without raising them so high.

    Quoted from Robotworkshop:

    For the resistor mess in the background they probably didn't have a resistor pack and didn't want to wait to order the proper one so they just made one....

    Yeah, and maybe a field repair even. It wasn't always so easy to find and order parts online. And it is definitely functional, just funny, would've taken them 30 seconds to make it aesthetically pleasing!

    #1126 2 years ago
    Quoted from Quench:

    They're called wire-wrap sockets - an oldskool way to prototype circuits:

    I gotta ask: what was that prototype for?

    #1127 2 years ago
    Quoted from Quench:

    They're called wire-wrap sockets - an oldskool way to prototype circuits:

    Quoted from frunch:

    I gotta ask: what was that prototype for?

    Not sure, I grabbed it off Wikipedia - some sort of Z80 based backplane from 1977.

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Computerplatine_Wire-wrap_backplane_detail_Z80_Doppel-Europa-Format_1977.jpg

    #1128 2 years ago

    Yep, wire wrap sockets by Augat. The pins are too large to fit through holes on PCB's but fit in proto-boards. I spent my first two years at Rockwell building and debugging wire wrap prototypes. Both with the hand wire wrap tool as well as the battery powered "gun".
    Now I enjoy a monthly pension check from Rockwell.

    #1129 2 years ago

    Now I can sleep at night.

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    #1130 2 years ago
    Quoted from polyacanthus:

    Here's one. Is there some reason for this I'm not aware of or did they just not know how to operate their cutters? I was going to start a thread for this question but I believe it belongs here.
    Edit: also notice the resistor clot in the background.

    Those are wire wrap sockets; which you now know.

    Something you might not: Wire wrap sockets sometimes had tapered pins, so it's possible they got this far and got stuck.

    Or: they were designed for protoboard, not PCBs, so if you try to shove those sharp edged pins all the way in you can cut or
    dislodge the traces. It's possible they got that far, the traces started to lift, and they decided that was good enough.

    I bet they either didn't have the right sockets on hand, or with them in the field.

    Not saying it's right...but I understand.

    I still have my wire wrapping bus wire and tools...and I don't think I've used them since 1992 or so.

    As for the resistors, well, you never have the SIP resistor line you need, but everyone's got 1/4W carbon :p

    #1131 2 years ago

    Yes wire wrapping was before my time but I did learn about it on the shelves of radio shack.

    After removing them, I found the through holes were undamaged and the socket pins easily fit in the holes with room to spare, so I still think they couldn't find their flush cutters that day

    This board just had a ton of field repairs- plenty of diodes and transistors that were "close but no cigar."

    #1132 2 years ago

    From a BSD I recently got. Can anybody tell me what they were trying to achieve when they were connecting wires from one place to another on the board? Was it bypassing something, etc? Also would you replace the board or fix it? I already replaced it with a Rottendog board but I'm not sure if it would be possible or worth trying to save the original board.

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    #1133 2 years ago

    The ever popular hack, spade bridges, placed on stilts in place of wire lead bridges.
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    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/contact/
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The new place for pinball repair info

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    #1134 2 years ago

    Regarding the BSD "hacks".
    Pic #1 - the butt connector is being used to split the wire so that it can be connected at two points to the J101 connector. Common.
    Pic #2 - The current limiting resistor for the 50VDC LED indicator burned up. Fairly common.
    Pic #3 - Possible shorted coil or shorted drive transistor to the knocker. Either way, they were taking the knocker out of the circuit. WPC knockers are usually connected via a keyed molex connector.
    Pic #4 - Jumpers to "repair" ham handed attempt to replace BR2/C5, probably fighting a reset issue. The original "repair" was perhaps completely unnecessary. http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Game_resets
    Pic #5 - Ouch. A scorch perhaps from the resistor in pic #2 burning.
    Pic #6 - More jumpers, caused by inadequate skills/tools while trying to replace BR5/C30...which is generally unnecessary unless the 12V circuit has gone south. All of those jumpers can be replaced by "solder stitches". http://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=General#Repairing_traces_or_creating_a_.22solder_stitch.22

    It's salvageable...but you'll need to send it to a pro. Once fixed...I always prefer OEM over aftermarket.

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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://www.ChrisHiblerPinball.com/Contact
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The Place to go for Pinball Repair Info

    #1135 2 years ago
    Quoted from ChrisHibler:

    What is that extra board doing in there?

    They were using it to get 12volts, lol

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    #1136 2 years ago

    I've seen a few hacks in the past couple of years, but none that I thought worthy of posting here. And this week I find both my favorite hack and least favorite hack on the same game, a Williams Liberty Bell.

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    Apparently, the owner liked his rubbers tight!

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    Least Favorite:

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    There is a 'crispy critter' in this pic as well...

    #1137 2 years ago
    Quoted from Pecos:

    I've seen a few hacks in the past couple of years, but none that I thought worthy of posting here. And this week I find both my favorite hack and least favorite hack on the same game, a Williams Liberty Bell.

    Apparently, the owner liked his rubbers tight!

    Least Favorite:

    There is a 'crispy critter' in this pic as well...

    See, the nice things about that bungee include the fact that you can change them without removing anything, and they come in a decent variety of colors; So, everbody can customize their machines!!!

    #1138 2 years ago

    Gottlieb mechs are built like tanks! Good upgrade.

    #1139 2 years ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    Gottlieb mechs are built like tanks! Good upgrade.

    The only problem I see in that picture is that someone installed a Williams flipper mech on one side...

    #1140 2 years ago

    The old "build a resistor" hack.
    1/Rt = 1/R1 + 1/R2 + 1/R3
    This works out to about 117 ohms using 3X 350 ohm resistors.
    Close enough. Spec is 120 ohms.
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    Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
    http://ChrisHiblerPinball.com/contact/
    http://www.PinWiki.com - The new place for pinball repair info

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    #1141 2 years ago
    Quoted from CNKay:

    Gottlieb mechs are built like tanks! Good upgrade.

    Quoted from zacaj:

    The only problem I see in that picture is that someone installed a Williams flipper mech on one side...

    This ain't gonna fly...

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    But this candy-striped Bungee might become the latest rage...

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    #1142 2 years ago
    Quoted from Pecos:

    But this candy-striped Bungee might become the latest rage...

    On my way down to Captain Dollar right now for a bag of 'em.

    #1143 2 years ago

    Quick release rubbers ! Gotta luv it !!

    #1144 2 years ago
    Quoted from SUPERBEE:

    Quick release rubbers ! Gotta luv it !!

    Uhmm... ..... wait, never mind...I better just go hang in the basement for a bit.

    #1145 2 years ago

    Bungee cords from China Freight are cheaper than rubber rings from certain pin part vendors....

    #1146 2 years ago

    Solid bungee cords designed for.pinball actually doesn't sound like a terrible idea. No rubber shavings on the pf and customizable looks

    #1147 2 years ago
    Quoted from Pecos:

    This ain't gonna fly...

    But this candy-striped Bungee might become the latest rage...

    Terrible--the upper switch is on the wrong side of the bungee cord. Fix this atrocity.

    #1148 2 years ago

    Found these being used , it worked just fine lol

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    #1149 2 years ago

    rubber baby buggy bumpers...

    #1150 2 years ago
    Quoted from wisefwumyogwave:

    Found these being used , it worked just fine lol

    Better than nothing

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