I just picked up this machine, seems to be pretty good in general, but the goalie movement is sporadic. Any tips where to look first? It does move, but stops and starts (when he goalie is supposed to be moving all the time).

I can tell I'll need to get some LED's in this, it's a super dark machine otherwise.

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I did end up picking both of those machines up. Certainly not 'like new' as was posted, but it was worth the effort I think. The goalie worked when I tested it out there, probably something stupid. Don't have time to dig into them this weekend, huge weekend for pinball in Minneapolis, but next week we'll see what's up.

Kind of excited to mess around with the WCS, seems fun albeit a really dark game with standard bulbs.

Yeah, I'll be the tall guy with long hair.

Fixed up the goalie on my machine, just removed the assemblies and re-soldered some iffy connections, cleaned the optos with 99% alcohol, and polished some of the metal parts, works great now.

Have a question on the operation of the goal/striker hole. Should you score a goal if you hit the striker hole instead, and also, should you receive the striker object if you hit the goal instead of the striker hole directly?

Thanks for the replies guys, so let me clarify.

If goal is unlit, but striker hole is, I should or should not receive the striker award by hitting the unlit goal?
If the goal is lit, and hit the striker hole (either lit or unlit), should I receive a goal?
And then, if the goal is lit, and striker is lit and I hit the goal, should I receive both the goal and the striker award?

Right on PinballKen, I'll go over that area, thanks.

It's pretty fun, I'm not a huge soccer fan in real life, but thankfully this game plays faster than real soccer (nothing like wasting 90 minutes for a 0 - 0 tie).

I would like to replace a couple lamp sockets on the coin toss PCB assembly. I can't seem to find an entire assembly but I'm pretty handy with the iron, but cannot find those PCB sockets. If someone can point me to them I'd much appreciate it!

yeah, saw those, but they don't look the same, cheap enough, might just buy a few and see if they work. Thanks!

Sweet, I'll pick them up. There was a hack on the board, the attachments must have broken off at one point and they just soldered a 'clump' to complete the circuit.

I think these are the correct ones, the above might stand off too far, although they are a bit thinner. Would probably work.

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/24-8857

If anyone knows of a lower left ramp and possibly a mini playfield for sale I would appreciate the heads up. Mine are workable, but would like new/spares.

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Is the correct part for the plastic bit on each side of the goal A-18510? Mine are bashed in a bit and would like to replace them.

What is your magna-save like on the flipper. Does the ball snap right to it, or does it kinda spin around and maybe settle before the magnet stops?

Might be easier to buy some lighting gels and hold then up over your current display and see what you like.

Nothing as big of a waste of time as watching 90 minutes of a sport ending in a 0-0 tie.

There is going to be a new ramp set built hopefully soon and we can all get new ramps! For now I'd just live with it, if you can't, then Australia is really your only hope unless you get lucky somewhere.

I lost my ramp assembly notes I took, can someone tell me the order you should reinstall the ramps?

Could someone tell me the size of the screw that holds down the coin toss assembly by the hole where the connections go through? I can't find that in the guide and misplaced mine during reassembly, evidently...

Thanks

It's getting there!!

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So, for the WCS fan club, which one do you prefer? Playfield spots or no spots? (not quite that 'blue' in person, cameras don't do well with that color temp for some reason)

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I have some back and 'drain' lights, I'll give them a go too...

Here's the final product, the teal strip at the back too much?

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Yeah, before I mounted them permanently tried them up one one post, I prefered them to double the light at the bottom. Maybe I'll give it a go again.

Question on the ramp diverter, my plunger was broken so I replaced it today. During the solenoid test for the diverter, it holds it just fine, if holding it means that when that solenoid is active it will open it for lock from the left ramp.

The question is, is the closure of that diverter just gravity? Mine doesn't seem to close even though the solenoid is off. When you stop the test, the plunger stays open but if you touch it, it falls down easily. Is this just a dirty/sticky coil sleeve or something?

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So when I'm in solenoid test mode #8 should I receive 50v across the Red wires and alternating between the other two coil legs, for solenoid active/inactive states?

I found a spring from an old flipper and that works. Strange that my manual doesn't show one there.

It does change direction naturally, so not sure it's THAT important.

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Beat those Germans 8-3! My best game by far...so far. One of the more enjoyable multiballs in any machine!

I ordered one within the last few months and don't notice anything flaking off or changed color yet. Seems sticky enough too, clean it off with wildcat every once in a while.

I get your point, but that's what travel is like.

I agree, it's not powerful enough to stop it, but, it may deflect it just enough to get a flipper on it. But pretty much a big fail for me when I try.

No, my machine doesn't shake, but it's noisy.

Unless someone is parting out a machine, I doubt you'll find a goalie mech at a distributor. Unless in Australia.

Welcome! Great game, even when you beat the game a few times it's still exhilarating to play.

I have that kit and like what you did in the back box. I also unplugged the top led strip, just far to bright for my taste. I might try covering up every other led and see if that's a bit better.

I'm not having great luck with my cliffys on the saucers. Keep lifting....any tips?

But, some people just don't like pinball too.

Yes, mine didn't have a mounting home either, but I haven't had trouble with it coming loose. But it's not hard to drill a hole if you want.

I'd take the right ramp section...

I'm very happy with the kit from Pinballbulbs.com, except for the rear LED strip. I currently have mine off, but others have said to cover every other LED with something and it tones it down a bit.

http://pinballbulbs.com/products/world-cup-soccer-ultimate-led-lighting-kit

It is a rush, one of the better multiballs ever. The way the lights die out when Germany scores etc, gives you a real sense of urgency. I tend to only plunge three balls at a time, otherwise they're just getting in the way of each other. The best I've ever done vs. Germany in the world cup is 8-2.

It puts a wicked spin on it.

Always lit, I've only ever beaten Germany in final draw and world cup in the same game once.

That's correct, there will never be a 2 balls locked there for a multiball, it also protects against a ball that accidentally goes into the lock lane from a ramp shot.

The ramps are the first thing to come off, it's not bad.

It is, the world championship is very intense multiball.

That's the skill shot, if you complete all three lights on the cointoss you are awarded points. You have to hit all three holes.

No flashers at all? That would be strange... get the manual and check out page 2-48, that lists out the flasher positions, flasher solenoids, transistor drivers, and connectors associated with every flasher on the machine. Let us know which ones don't seem to work and we'll try to help from there.

Wish I could keep every one of them, but have to change it up you know. I really like every machine I have now though, good variety of play style. Looking for an RBION though, and I'd trade away the WCS for it...

Really? Sounds like that coil is a bit strong if you hit the top bar from the assist hole.

Well, the rules are not super deep, perhaps that's what they meant by hard. It is not hard to get to the final battle, but it's not boring when you reach it.

Looks like you chose to put the bulbs in different places than they wanted you to.

I have the same kit and it looks nothing like mine. Perhaps I put mine in the wrong spot...

Could you take a picture of it?

If I remember correctly, on my machine there was a nylock nut there, on a stud from a post. I'm searching for the pic I took of that area before I shopped it out the last time....hopefully I can find it.

Nope, I was wrong, the nut is on the other side of the mini playfield, mine looked exactly like the other picture posted.

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I use simple green to clean the grime off. Once it's really clean, I use the treasure cove method, applying #2 and then #1. After that process is done, I only use a pure carnauba wax called Blitz 1 grand, it's expensive but worth it. I've had great success with this method.

I've used Novus two before, but it's more alot a plastic polish. Would be difficult to harm your playfield with that.

Mine hit the left sling as well, not sure where else it should go...

It should hit the left sling and bounce around uncontrollably, like traveling is. I think it's one of the neatest features of the machine really. It's worth big points to travel to cities, there's risk involved.

The left slingshot, you need to adjust your ball guide on the right so it feeds into the left slingshot when it comes around after you travel. You know, slingshot, above the flipper.

It is definitely a unique multiball experience like no other game. Very enjoyable and pulse pounding.

Yeah, WCS94 isn't an easy machine to shop etc. Good times though...

That would be right though...

It's an error in the manual, you need the spring.

Nearly impossible, occasionally a few will pop up on eBay etc. It's one of the more difficult machines to fine spare parts and plastics for, especially the big ramps. It's a really fun machine though!

it's been 'soon' and 'next' for quite a while. But I do believe they will be done at some point.

It is definitely a just have fun sorta game.

Do you hear the motor move when the goalie should be moving? If not make sure the motor wires are attached properly and well, check the optos (you can use most phone cameras to see if they are transmitting), and once you've determined those are all good, check the fuse for that circuit.

Yup, that would be my next step, check it out with a multimeter and see if you're even getting voltage there, if not, I'd check out the fuse next. If that's good, check out the connectors and make sure that the interface between the wiring harness and boards are making good contact etc. After that, you're into board level testing.

Normally you just unscrew it and push the apron forward and lift out...

Optos emit Infrared light, most cheap optics (most cell phone cameras fit into this category) do not have an IR filter so you can visualize the IR light easily that way. A quick test would be go into your camera mode, point a standard IR remote for your TV at your camera, if you see it flash then you should see your optos glow too.

I didn't drill a hole in mine....but save the screw for the future. Mine was such a tight fit on the mech that I thought creating a hole and adding the screw was unnecessary. Maybe in the future though...save the screw.

Your flipper bat sizes are not correct in my estimation, or, you need to fix your flipper alignment drastically on the right side. Everyone needs to check their flipper bat alignments, please, that's a huge factor in game enjoyment...even more than angle IMO!

It doesn't help that you're cross posting in two different threads...

It's just common forum etiquette that's all. It's just wasting peoples time if you're 'making' them think of things that you've already gone over in other threads. I think posting a link to the main thread is acceptable.

Here's a link to the other thread for future reference

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bunch-of-odd-wcs94-issues

Multiball is not the point scoring opportunity in this game. You get all the points from completing the skill modes (ultras), that adds to your bonus, all the score is really from bonus. Sure, you get jackpots and stuff, but get the modes complete and max out your bonus in those, and then travel to all the cities and defeat Germany in the finals. Regular multiball, while fun, isn't a huge goal for big points...mostly.

I'd also check proper alignment/operation of the switch just above the magnet/upper playfield in the ramp if lock is lit but the magnet doesn't activate.

There is an odd piece of plastic in the area I think you're talking about, might be missing on yours. Take a photo... two pages back there's a picture of a plastic over the two pop bumpers, is that area?

Visual inspection is good, but you'll want to use a multimeter and actually test continuity starting from the connector in the back box to each connection, finding where the break is. If the continuity is good from first to last, then you'll have to do some transistor testing on that driver.

Goalie? The goalie is easy to hit, but that's not normally the objective.

Just use your cell phone camera.

I suppose.

But nicer cameras have IR coatings, that's why I suggest phones, they generally do not.

That's right, you have to score on regular play to qualify! Just wait until you can chop all that wood to defeat Germany in the finals and you get on the board as GC, great feeling.

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No auto plunger.

I always thought that was a good thing, you can decide how many balls you want in play at that time. To me it was part of the strategy of the game.

It is a great multiball for sure.