Quoted from dleasman:

With the default settings on the machine, Goal is lit at the start of every ball, meaning, the ball will spin, and the goalie will move. When you score a goal, it will stop (except at certain times, explained below).
To re-light the Goal during normal play, you must either a) light the 4 red rollovers in the middle of the play field, b) get the ball in the kick hole by the goal, c)
When you enter multi-ball, Gloal will be lit again until you score. To re-light Goal in multi-ball, you must either get in the kick hole (just like in normal play), or go up either the left or right ramp.
There is an un-documented EASTER EGG in the machine as well, where if you are in multi-ball, and have scored, you can re-light the goal by pressing the Extra Ball button under the plunger. This only works once per multi-ball. (I bet a lot of you did not know about this!)
If you advance through all cities to Los Angeles, and get in the Final Draw (tv award) hole, you play Germany for the World Cup. At this point, Goal will be lit during the entire match. You can get all 5 balls going, as you like... Just keep shooting them out, and score as many goals as you can. At the end of the match, the flippers will stop, the balls will drain, and you will see your final score. Then, you return to normal play, and shoot one ball out, but goal will not be lit at this point. You must re-light it using one of the options above.
In the machine settings, you *can* turn off the option where goal is lit at the start of every ball, OR set it so that it is only lit for the *first* ball.
Hope this clarifies.
-Dana

Quoted from dleasman:

I agree... But it can also be started by the kick hole, multi ball, or world cup final. This is controlled by the software. But, I am wondering about the kick hole in front of the goal. What if that switch was stuck? If it was, the game would detect it as an error, and you would get a message when the machine is powered up. Switch tests would confirm. Else, I do not see how the goalie and ball could always be going. The only software options in the game are a) having it be on at the start of every ball, b) having it on at the start of the 1st ball only, or c) it's not on until you light it. Another possibility is that the game thinks it's in multi-ball all the time, but in that case, the game would detect that there is a ball missing, thinking there is a stuck ball somewhere.
When you DO score a goal, the game should yell some variant of "GOOOOOOAL!", and/or, "I what a shot! I can't believe it went in.", "This guy is unstoppable!", or one of a few other phrases. If it does not yell GOAL, then it may just think you got the ball in the Striker Award hole, because with a goal, the ball gets shot out through the habitrail anyway.
To test, just put the ball in TV Award at the beginning of the game, and enter Big Goal Round. If you put the ball in the goal, and get a Striker Award instead of the "B" for 15Million, then you will know it's the sensor in the goal.

Quoted from dleasman:

Thinking there *could* be a bigger problem... Does the goalie and ball stop when the game is over? If so, then the logic board has control of he motors. If just ONE was still going, goalie or ball, then I would say it's an electrical glitch, but they ARE controlled seperately (i.e. 3rs tv award, "go for the goalie", or the penalty kick, where the goalie moves specified amounts, with no ball movement).
If it is a logic issue, you *might* consider just doing a factory reset.
Also, are you running the latest rom version? It should be "REV . LX-2", shown in the middle right of the display on startup.
These may not be your cause... Just throwing out anything I can think of. But it's curious that your ball AND goalie are both moving.
If you put the ball in the goal over and over, does it keep saying "GOAL" every time? If so, the it would appear that something is triggering the goal lighting, and since you have to trigger all 4 red rollovers, I doubt it's that, so I would be looking again at the kick hole in front of the goal.
-Dana

Quoted from Coyo5050:

Do you know what sizes I need for those two rubbers?

Quoted from dar8dar:

Game blades installed

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Quoted from aerobert:

Hi, can someone help me identify some plastics? I'm in the process of cleaning and replacing stuff. It's the one (or several?) plastics on the left side by the assist hole. It's quite damaged as you can see in my picture.
I can't find good pictures of how the parts look. Would appreciate part/ref numbers on them. Thanks!
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Edit: I suspect it's this big one complete under ramp plastic that runs on both sides?? Am I right?
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Quoted from dleasman:

One of my lighted flipper buttons blew out, and I decided to replace 3 leds on each side with blue, instead of the green that I had. While I was in there, I thought it might be fun to have the magna-save to be a lighted button as well, in red, and have it only lit when magna-save is lit. Here is a pic of the board mounted around the new, clear magna-save button. I do not have it connected to the main board, as of yet. Need to get some wire, and then I can wrap that up.

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Quoted from tomh52722:

I'm about to buy cliffy's for my wcs. Thinking about paying extra for carbon fiber. Any thoughts

Quoted from tomh52722:

I'm about to buy cliffy's for my wcs. Thinking about paying extra for carbon fiber. Any thoughts

Quoted from Pinphila:

Hi, just got one of these. Are insert decals available? Anyone have scans. Need todo some decals

Quoted from Jared:

I would love a copy of the stencil if there was a way you could send it via email and I could print and cut for use.

Quoted from aerobert:

@BioBa lol, thatsapenis.gif

Quoted from PinballBulbs:

I guess I'll need the size too. If someone gives me the size to cut soccer ball I'll cut them.
Had a few PMs. Shoot me a pm with your address if you want one too please. Not just "I want one "

Quoted from PinballBulbs:

Another attempt

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Quoted from dleasman:

Spot Lights
I am thinking about spotlights. I have seen a kit where the add a post on the bottom right of the left slingshot, with 2 spotlights. I think this looks goofy, and stands out too much. I was thinking of something different.
I think some good locations for spot lights would be the following:
1) On top of the large metal spacer, holding up the right ramp, at the top of the right slingshot, and point the light towards the bottom of the left ramp. I would mount this so that it hangs down, to keep a lower profile.
2) On top of the large metal spacer, holding up the right ramp, near the top right of the playfield, where the rail connects to the same post, and point the light towards the goalie. I would have this one more on top, not hanging down.
3) On the top edge of the "Lock" plastic, pointing up the ramp, towards the top of the playfield. I would hang this one downward, to keep a low profile, and conceal it behind the lock area.
4) Same as above, but aiming the light more towards the center playfield.
5) Possibly on the back of the left ramp banner, concealed behind, aimed at the area in front of the goalie.
I would start by hooking up power to one light, and hold it in each area to see what the effect would be, and then decide on a color. I am thinking just a regular white GI bulb, but possibly green. This is just an idea, but it would not be very expensive, as you can get the socket/reflector with a 12" wire tail on PinballLife.com for only $3.50 per light here: http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1542
I like a bright playfield, and the colors on this machine are fantastic, but there are a number of dark areas. I think this could really enhance the look, without any cutting. Just wondering if others have considered this, or tried it, and where others have placed the spotlights for the best effect.

Quoted from mattmarr:

Damn, I don't check the owners thread for a few days and I miss out on a sweet speaker mod ? That's freaking awesome of you PinballBulbs for sending out the stencil and obviously BioBa, you are the Steve Jobs of soccer-themed pinball speaker mods. A true innovator. Also, MK6PIN, your lighting looks fantastic and I will be stealing that style ASAP and telling everyone that comes by that I am a savant at GI lighting and designed that exact pattern all on my own.
On a final note, is there any shot more satisfying than freaking nailing the Final Draw when you are about to face Germany for the World Cup Finals? Hit that one tonight after a bit of a hiatus from WCS while finishing the game room, many air high fives were thrown out as I played alone in my basement.

Quoted from sirlonzelot:

I am planing to create a ledboard in the floodlight decals and let them light over a flasher. I think this will turn out great.

Quoted from aerobert:

Cleaning in progress. Notice the groove in the football. I guess the remains are everywhere in this machine. It looks terrible, but it's mainly just dirty. Rust in some places. This machine was played and enjoyed by many but never serviced.
But...progress is being made allthough slowly. Note that I'm not fully restoring it. I got it cheap. It will be thoroughly cleaned and polished and then played once again. New posts, new rubber, new goalie, new football, some new plastics and Led GI. The rest is cleaning.
Gues what part of the ramp I started cleaning. lol

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Quoted from aerobert:

Nothing that can't be fixed. Spent about three hours on this ramp alone.

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Quoted from dleasman:

Thinking more about the soccer ball speaker grills... It would have been kinda cool if I could have taken another harwood board, drilled the same size hole, placed the grill over it, and used something like a bowling ball to stretch it into the hole, resulting in a domed speaker grill, looking more like an actual ball coming out of the machine. This would of course, need to be done before painting, as the existing paint would surely chip off in some places. Regardless, I am happy with the result, but this *could* have made it look even better.

Quoted from Gorgar123:

Just joined the club about a month ago and am really loving the game. Great theme, the call outs are funny and shooting goals is just plain fun, although I am constantly amazed at how good that goalie is.
It already had led's in the playfield when I got it, so all I have done so far is change out the back box bulbs to led's (cool white frosted mainly with a few purple and warm whites) and added the "WCS - Lighting Extras LED Kit" from Pinballbulbs. The kit was really easy to install and required no soldering as everything was plug and play. It comes with two led strips (for the top and bottom) and two double spotlight kits that mount on the slings. Plus, they threw a speaker grill template in the box as a bonus.
I am still playing around with aiming the spotlights for best effect, but I have to say that the kit has made a huge difference at getting rid of the dark areas just above the flippers and in the top left corner and really added a lot of visual pop to the game. I think it is one of the best bang for the buck mods I have bought.
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Quoted from weaverj:

any brave souls repair plastics by cutting spare pieces and fitting them in broken spots? my right gate ramp ticket sign has a chip missing. wondering if i could cut a piece of a spare plastic i have and filling in the chip. not sure how i would get the color to match at all, however.

Quoted from weaverj:

my drain trough, shooter lane kickout is a bit rough. doesn't always get the balls out. it goes into search mode for a bit, then a ball pops out. coil part # is correct and visual inspection was okay. is there a known issue or is this a little something with all mid-90s wpc's?

Quoted from weaverj:

i fingered out the start button.
how do you see if the trough opto leds are working? do they light up?

Quoted from weaverj:

are all the kickout hole plastics suppose to be purple? my assist hole cover is white.

Quoted from sohchx:

Will do. I started reading from page one last week and am only on 23 as of now.

Quoted from sohchx:

Almost done!! Last thing to do is the green stripes around the base

Quoted from sohchx:

I finally got time to print out a soccer ball shooter handle this weekend. I'm happy with it. What say you gents? Time to drill it out and paint it

Quoted from Coyo5050:

Is the right ramp really hard to hit or am i just not very good at this game?

Quoted from dleasman:

Well... I had been thinking about doing my hamster cage in teal, ......"

Quoted from bigd1979:

Heres my new pickup and what i accomplished tonight... i belie.

Quoted from sohchx:

Mine looks the same way. The cabinet art is mint.

Quoted from weaverj:

should the striker light be red or orange?

Quoted from weaverj:

thanks. and the ramp gate lights, top to bottom, are red-yellow-yellow, right?

Quoted from weaverj:

no doubt. i was commenting on my backwards order.

Quoted from weaverj:

sorry, lazy this morning. didn't want to take the glass off.

Quoted from dleasman:

Have you modified it to light with led strips from the GI circuits? It would also be fun to put led flashers (possibly green) in it for when there is a goal. Would be pretty easy to do, and you could have the wiring come out the back of the back box, as opposed to drilling any holes.

Quoted from flashinstinct:

God why? LOL

Quoted from dleasman:

OK... Seriously? You did this AFTER you told me that putting the soccer foosball mods by BOTH ramps was overkill

Quoted from taylor34:

Skill shot question...I can't hit the 3rd part of the skill shot, not enough umphf to get it there from the spring. New spring then I'm assuming, or is there something I might be missing here and that shot is supposed to be almost impossible? Thanks

Quoted from taylor34:

Skill shot question...I can't hit the 3rd part of the skill shot, not enough umphf to get it there from the spring. New spring then I'm assuming, or is there something I might be missing here and that shot is supposed to be almost impossible? Thanks

Quoted from dleasman:

Also... They have *never* recommended a flower border around the back box!

Quoted from Kronlar:

I wasn't able to find a post that covered this specifically, but about 10 pages ago there was some discussion about nylon washers.
What do you guys think are the most useful sizes to buy? Most of what I've found are metric sizes on eBay. Would like a variety to handle plastic protection and also spacer duty where needed.
Any other better sources?
Thanks!

Quoted from Pale_Purple:

Does anyone have LEDs in their game? If so what brand and are you using an OCD board too? Finally making the upgrade on my machine. My goalie is very loud, much louder than others I've seen on location. Going to get a new goalie motor and hope it fixes that.

Quoted from sohchx:

Got any pictures of your backbox with the 5050 FT's installed?

Quoted from westofrome:

Installing the PinballBulbs kit in my WCS. The kit doesn't seem to have come with any GI/insert flashers. Is this to be expected or should these have been included? Do folks generally replace the incandescent flashers with LED?

Quoted from Coyote:

Looks like it's a 12v feed. Where under the playfield (in what area) is it located?
I ask because the proto games had an eddy sensor next to the soccer ball, and it would have needed power.

Quoted from aerobert:

I have bought a new header plastic. How do I take the striker sign (with the bulb) off and reattach it to the header plastic? The old header plastic was in three pieces.
Looks like its mounted with a rivet? How would one remove and reattach it to the new plastic without rivet tools? The signs metal base has still an old piece of the header plastic attached to it.

Quoted from westofrome:

The believe the drawback of using a pop rivet tool is that it punches a hole in the center of the rivet, so you lose that "factory" look, FWIW.

Quoted from PoMC:

Got my order of various rubber and finally have a rubber tip for a new shooter rod I made. I had to remove the shooter assembly and hacksaw the mushroomed tip off. Then I used a new shooter rod and installed a soccer foosball and done.

Quoted from dleasman:

OK... You may or may not be interested in my illustrated mini-project, but here it is anyway.
I have made a PinTopper for my WCS, complete with interactive lighting. (others have done something similar)
I bought Soccer Ball wall night light from Target.com for under $20. I had some 6V white led strip left over from lighting my field lights and drain hole that I got from BioBa, who I also consulted on this mod. He pointed me to ebay for some 12V led strips that I got in both red and green (lot's left over if anyone is interested).

I opened up the soccer ball, removing the 4 screws at the bottom, and as you can see, there is not much there.

Then, I removed the 2 screws for the switch, which I moved to the center, under the originial lighting board. The opening for the switch will be used for my own wiring harness to the machine. I then stuck 2 segments of 3 white, lights (for GI), then 4 segments of 3 green around the perimeter, and then finally, a 4 more segments of 3 red inside of that.

Next comes the wiring. I kind of did a daisy chain in brown wire for the common ground (I should have used the white... oops).

Then I used white wire for the hot (should have used brown), for the outer green, inner red, and center white.

Then, I used 3' trailer wiring extension cord, which I cut the one end off about 6" from the end (with the exposed hot wires under the jacket), and attached that to the main unit, so it goes out where the switch was.

Re-assembling it, you can see the short end of the cord coming out through the hole where the switch was, along with the other, long end, of the cord, which will attach to the machine. The common (exposed pin) for ground, which is the white wire. The brown wire is for the white, 6V GI, the yellow wire is the 12V red, and finally the green wire for the 12V green.

Looks great when lit!

Again, the ball will be white with the GI, but flash red for goal, and flash green for other features (not yet decided). Connecting the harness will be easy, going in through the back vent, and attaching to back box lights, because they are simple punch down connectors. Stupid simple!
Except for re-locating the original switch, the original electronics are intact, and I could easily put it back to original... Did not need to do this... I also considered using the original circuit for GI instead of the white strips... I may still do this if the strips are too bright.
Once I had the parts, building this took no more than an hour, total, and has a total cost of about $40, except that I already had the harness in the garage, and had the white left over. I would be happy to sell some green and red led to anyone who want's to do this, and it would cost you a lot less... Probably more like $30 total.
When I get it attached to the machine, I will probably put a short video on YouTube, so you can see what it looks like during game play.
UPDATE:
Got the topper installed, but had to change my wiring. The 12V DC had the polarity wrong, so I now have white for ground and brown for hot, after some changes in the wiring. Also, I learned that the GI is 6.5V AC (not DC), so I cannot use the common ground. I had to add a 5th wire. Right now, it's just a single strand, but I will be replacing my 4 pin harness with a 5 pin version when the cable arrives.
I did do a quick, and pretty crappy video, which is available here:
» YouTube video
Next project: Powder coating habitrail and cointoss in dark yellow (to match the yellow on the sides)

Quoted from dleasman:

That thing is GINORMOUS! Looks good though.

Thanks. I am still curious how you did yours? Did you do a similar arrangement with the led strips?
I just got my 5 pin harness in the mail yesterday, so I need to switch it out. Again, I am having to go from 4 to 5 wires, because the 6.5V GI does not share a common ground with the 12V flashers.
It sure does add a lot while your are playing the game though... The red and green flashes are super bright!

Quoted from arcyallen:

As someone who is color blind AND has no interest or experience with soccer, let me unqualifyingly say: The guy on the right is a horrible version of The Incredible Hulk. Which is probably why I like it. Now all I can think of is making a Hulk sticker for my goalie...

Quoted from matiou:

Why adding a French goalie to this game when France did not pass the qualification for 94's world cup ?

Quoted from miracleman:

FYI just noticed Pinball Center sells goalie plastics wearing different team outfits, pretty cool.
https://www.pinball.center/en/search?sSearch=world%2Bcup%2Bplastic&p=1
Zitt is doing a group order (cutoff 11-30-20) for Pinball Center parts, if anyone is interested in those or any other parts only they sell.
Read thread and contact Zitt soon for details...
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pinballcenter-parts-needed