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World Cup Soccer 94 owners. Everyone welcome.


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#4601 10 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Positive:

I have a good copy that is working well and I have done some basic rehab with it (massive cleaning, LEDs, etc).
Overall, my plastics are very rough. Either heavily yellowed, warped or broken in spots. Any recommendations on getting new ones and if they need to be decaled by me or if they come complete?
Thanks!

https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/31-1925-XX

Pricey, but really breathes new life into a machine...

#4602 10 months ago
Quoted from pinlynx:

I'm having a problem with balls getting wedged between the soccer ball and the ramp. From looking at the pictures in the topic gallery, it looks like there should be a guide attached to the ramp to prevent this. Attached picture shows the holes where the guide should go.
Does anyone have a picture of the part I'm looking for? Or, even better, does someone have an extra they'd be willing to part with?[quoted image]

Search this thread. Someone has posted a picture of the part you need before.

#4603 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

Absolutely loving this pin! Got to the other side today. Here is a before and after shot.
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Scoot, Outstanding!
You need to come to MN
and do mine.
That looks fantastic!

#4604 10 months ago
Quoted from DavidPinballWizz:

Check your ball trough, especially the ball trough jam (the one above ball trough 1)

Thanks seems to be working now--I cleaned off the optos with rubbing alcohol and reseated all the opto board cables. Also found a wire coming off the opto board with some frayed sheathing that might have been touching metal. wrapped that with electrical tape. One or all of those did the trick.

#4605 10 months ago

There is a part in the official list that really puzzles me... Here is the list: https://www.ipdb.org/files/2811/Bally_1994_World_Cup_Soccer_Parts_List.txt
the part I'm talking about is 12-6466-17 (ball guide 4 1/4")
Anyone knows where does this part go? (I don't even have it in my WCS 94)
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#4606 10 months ago
Quoted from Zzap:

Amazing work! How much effort was there in masking off the trophy?

It was actually pretty quick and easy. I used clear yellow so I only had to mask around the trophy. Using frisket paper allowed me to trace around the trophy with an xacto knife. I cut around the white parts and left them in place. Then I pulled the frisket off the trophy area and painted right over the black. Then I just peeled off the rest exposing the white and the background.

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#4607 10 months ago
Quoted from rollitover:

Scoot, Outstanding!
You need to come to MN
and do mine.
That looks fantastic!

Road trip!

#4608 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

More mods added to my game. This one was cheap and looks great.

Man. That looks incredible! Well done!

#4610 10 months ago

someone say "brisket"? mmm.

#4611 10 months ago
Quoted from weaverj:

someone say "brisket"? mmm.

I'd say somebody's hungry.

#4612 10 months ago
Quoted from provato:

There is a part in the official list that really puzzles me... Here is the list: https://www.ipdb.org/files/2811/Bally_1994_World_Cup_Soccer_Parts_List.txt
the part I'm talking about is 12-6466-17 (ball guide 4 1/4")
Anyone knows where does this part go? (I don't even have it in my WCS 94)
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I think I know exactly where that would go. Look at the left outline where the ball save is. I have two holes in the playfield where I think that would go. Mine does not have one.

#4613 10 months ago
Quoted from provato:

There is a part in the official list that really puzzles me... Here is the list: https://www.ipdb.org/files/2811/Bally_1994_World_Cup_Soccer_Parts_List.txt
the part I'm talking about is 12-6466-17 (ball guide 4 1/4")
Anyone knows where does this part go? (I don't even have it in my WCS 94)
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Quoted from Scoot:

I think I know exactly where that would go. Look at the left outline where the ball save is. I have two holes in the playfield where I think that would go. Mine does not have one.

Mine has one. Didn’t measure length “, but it looks to be what your referencing.

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#4614 10 months ago

Thank you Scoot & Pinzap!!! I also have the holes but not the wireform in my WCS pinball... Another part for me to buy!

One more "Find the part location" question.

In the same list ( https://www.ipdb.org/files/2811/Bally_1994_World_Cup_Soccer_Parts_List.txt )
Under the subcategory "557 1 50031-PL world cup playfield assy 1" there are two 23-6534-3 (rubber protector 1 1/2)
...and there are two more under the subcategory "2208 .2 50031-F world cup-common final assy 1"
Anyone knows where do these four rubber protectors go? (I don't even have it in my WCS 94 - I suspect to protect the backglass or pf glass)
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#4615 10 months ago

There is one I think at the left ramp on the outside. Above the tackle light / switch
https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2811&picno=43244&zoom=1

#4616 10 months ago
Quoted from DavidPinballWizz:

There is one I think at the left ramp on the outside. Above the tackle light / switch
https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=2811&picno=43244&zoom=1

Yes I can see it, but what purpose does it serve? protection of the ramp from airballs?
Moreover, maybe there is another one on the right ramp?

#4617 10 months ago
Quoted from provato:

Yes I can see it, but what purpose does it serve? protection of the ramp from airballs?
Moreover, maybe there is another one on the right ramp?

I have wondered the same thing. It must be for protection since my soccer ball will throw my ball around violently sometimes. But if that was the case you would think it would be a bit bigger or extend up the ramp more.

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#4618 10 months ago

Got to the front today. It’s not perfect but looks much better for sure.

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#4619 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

Got to the front today. It’s not perfect but looks much better for sure.
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...there he goes again

#4620 10 months ago

Awesome! I wish I had that kind of talent...

#4621 10 months ago

Minnesota's beautiful in the wintertime Scoot.
...just sayin'

#4622 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

I have wondered the same thing. It must be for protection since my soccer ball will throw my ball around violently sometimes. But if that was the case you would think it would be a bit bigger or extend up the ramp more.
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Looks to be placed there to prevent stuck balls that might otherwise settle alongside the ramp, trapped by the nut and the ramp in the little space between the two.

#4623 10 months ago
Quoted from Pinzap:

Looks to be placed there to prevent stuck balls that might otherwise settle alongside the ramp, trapped by the nut and the ramp in the little space between the two.

That is the exact reason I am guessing b/c on my game that piece is broken/missing and the ball gets stuck there every 50 games or so if I had to guess.

#4624 10 months ago

***Dumb question alert***

For those of you that have done the LED strips that light the stadium lights on the upper part of the playfield; How did you run these and where did you attach the strip? I bought some assuming it would be pretty straight forward install but as I am looking, I don't know how to tackle it. It would seem the best bet to mount them would be the underside of the back box towards the playfiled, but if I do, it would not be able to be connected to one of the GI bulbs like I had planned.

Thanks in advance for any help!

#4625 10 months ago
Quoted from SDTMinSTL:

***Dumb question alert***
For those of you that have done the LED strips that light the stadium lights on the upper part of the playfield; How did you run these and where did you attach the strip? I bought some assuming it would be pretty straight forward install but as I am looking, I don't know how to tackle it. It would seem the best bet to mount them would be the underside of the back box towards the playfiled, but if I do, it would not be able to be connected to one of the GI bulbs like I had planned.
Thanks in advance for any help!

Not at all a dumb question. Most of these strips are 12v and plug into the back box where f117? is and shares it’s power with the 12v unregulated power supply. Simple install under the plastic glass channel attached to the back near the head. But with World Cup, you have to install it further back under the head and closer to the fake stadium lights decal to give it the effect you are looking for. Also it sounds like you have 6.3v strips which would hook up to a GI bulb. If this is the case, you will want to run the wiring from under the head where your strips are, into the black, large wire tube holder and along all the rest of the wires back up to the playfield for a neat install. This will require probably more wire than you have so find some appropriate speaker wire and modify. I use alligator clips so I can remove them quickly if needed.

#4626 10 months ago
Quoted from SDTMinSTL:

***Dumb question alert***
For those of you that have done the LED strips that light the stadium lights on the upper part of the playfield; How did you run these and where did you attach the strip? I bought some assuming it would be pretty straight forward install but as I am looking, I don't know how to tackle it. It would seem the best bet to mount them would be the underside of the back box towards the playfiled, but if I do, it would not be able to be connected to one of the GI bulbs like I had planned.
Thanks in advance for any help!

I have a strip that runs the length of the stadium light backboard if my game and taps into the back left GI bulb in the game. Easy peasy.

#4627 10 months ago

Finished adding comet LED's to the game tonight. Love the way it looks. Looked so dingy with standard bulbs.

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#4628 10 months ago

you are correct, incandescents are a joke.

#4629 10 months ago
Quoted from bowtech:

Finished adding comet LED's to the game tonight. Love the way it looks. Looked so dingy with standard bulbs.
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I know it’s a personal thing but cool white or natural white leds look so much better in pinball machines to me. It just makes all the colors in the plastics and on the playfield pop! Nicely done!

#4630 10 months ago

depends on the game. comet sunlight whites look great in a POTC, for example. this game, with the teals and purples, screams for naturals.

#4631 10 months ago
Quoted from SDTMinSTL:

***Dumb question alert***
For those of you that have done the LED strips that light the stadium lights on the upper part of the playfield; How did you run these and where did you attach the strip? I bought some assuming it would be pretty straight forward install but as I am looking, I don't know how to tackle it. It would seem the best bet to mount them would be the underside of the back box towards the playfiled, but if I do, it would not be able to be connected to one of the GI bulbs like I had planned.
Thanks in advance for any help!

My strips are attache in a way that they are pointing straight down towards the playfield, and are attached to the main body, not the playfield. As for power, I actually had it come from the back box, simply adding the wire into one of the protective cable tubes.

Here is my original post about it, from about 2 years back:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/world-cup-soccer-94-owners-everyone-welcome/page/49#post-3171200

I added a strip inside the drain hole at the same time, on the top edge of the drain plate (stainless steel), pointing towards the flippers. Those lights, as I recall, get power from near by GI, under the playfield.

#4632 10 months ago

Hmm, I’ve been meaning to ask people if they prefer not to LED WCS. I happen to think the game looks great with incandescents, but I’m wondering if I’ll like LEDs better.

Does the playfield have any dark areas when LEDs are used?

#4633 10 months ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Hmm, I’ve been meaning to ask people if they prefer not to LED WCS. I happen to think the game looks great with incandescents, but I’m wondering if I’ll like LEDs better.
Does the playfield have any dark areas when LEDs are used?

I prefer warm white. I get theborigina look, but brighter.

I feel this game is very well lit after changing everything to LED.

#4634 10 months ago

I got these off of EBay the other day. I think it turned out nice.

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#4635 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

I got these off of EBay the other day. I think it turned out nice.
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Ok Scoot now you're just showin' off.
Either that or you're outta' control...
or maybe both!

#4636 10 months ago

Does anyone have a vector scan of the "free kick" insert and the "lock" insert? If you do it would be much appreciated.

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#4637 10 months ago
Quoted from TheFamilyArcade:

Hmm, I’ve been meaning to ask people if they prefer not to LED WCS. I happen to think the game looks great with incandescents, but I’m wondering if I’ll like LEDs better.
Does the playfield have any dark areas when LEDs are used?

I personally like how bright it makes the game. Makes it look like a new game. The original bulbs look ok but the brightness of the LED's make it pop l.

#4638 10 months ago

Thanks to everyone that chimed in on the led strip lights and how to place them and wire them. I knocked it out really quickly and it looks great.

#4639 10 months ago

I wanted to offer some information on a potential solution to something that had been bugging me. Some may scoff at over complicating something that needn't be, but I thought it might help someone.

Led's, in my opinion, are beautiful in this game. I used warm white everywhere. No color matching at all, with the exception of bulbs that are in the ramp boards, the coin toss, and the backboard between the field lights and the striker sign, and anywhere else the bulbs were "naked". You could make an argument for cool white, and I think that would look great, especially with the heavy teal colors throughout the game.

The issue for me is, and always has been, when Led-ing any game, is that the current "yellows" from all Led resellers that I have found, are not yellow. They are orange. I had three options.

1.) Keep these particular bulbs incandescent, and use the yellow condoms. This is probably the one that makes the most sense honestly. The issue is my condoms were torn (insert joke here). I didn't want to buy new ones and wait for them. Plus, I am led-ing this to get rid of the old school bulbs.

2.) Led these spots in "yellow" bulbs and live with the fact that they should be called Tang Orange. Never cared for the stuff, and maybe that is part of my problem.

3.) Led these bulbs in your weapon of choice, then awkwardly try to use the condom to cover them. This isn't a great solution as the condoms are not made to fit over the base of the current sized Led's. It ends up looking like a wind sock, and unless you can manipulate them perfectly, it bugs me.

4.) Do the following.

I took 10 (actually a lot more during my trial runs) warm white, frosted, non ghosting, premium bulbs from comet and dipped them in bright yellow acrylic paint. I used Createx Opaque Airbrush paint that I already had, but wal-mart craft acrylic would be fine as well. I simply filled two depressions in a cheap plastic paint palette with the yellow, took a pair of needle nose pliers and dipped them in. I then lightly touched the end of the bulb onto an empty place on the palette (to prevent the dairy queen swirl from too much paint) and then, while holding it in the pliers, stuck the wedge end into mounting tack to dry. After fully drying overnight, I put the bulbs in, and holy $#&@. It is a LEGIT yellow!!! It looks terrific, matches the brightness of the other bulbs in the game and the heat is so minimal in LED's there is no danger from the bulb being over insulated. I may clear coat them with some sort of matte protection, but I am VERY pleased with how they turned out.

I tried to take photos of the machine with both incan's and the modified led's next to each other as it is STARK. The issue is my camera is apparently one step above a potato, as the lights looked nothing like the colors they are. Trust me, when they are on, it is worth the little bit of effort.

The only issue is, and its minor, is the red frosted bulbs on the ramp boards are still white that are right above the now yellow bulbs. This is worth it to me. I just thought I would offer it up.
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#4641 10 months ago

I also hate the way yellow leds look. Have you ever tried to put yellow leds in a yellow insert? Yuck! I found frosted pink wonderful in yellow inserts.

Never thought of painting leds to get the color I want. Hmmm.

#4642 10 months ago

no dice with yellow LED's.

#4643 10 months ago

If anyone is looking to trade out their WCS near Cincinnati, I have a Baywatch I could trade towards. Of course, cash can be added depending on variables.

#4644 10 months ago
Quoted from Scoot:

I also hate the way yellow leds look. Have you ever tried to put yellow leds in a yellow insert? Yuck! I found frosted pink wonderful in yellow inserts.
Never thought of painting leds to get the color I want. Hmmm.

Agreed. I always stick with white in inserts but I'll have to try that. It truly is lit mega yellow when you paint them. No doubt about it. I tired brushing it on first and it looked like a hot mess. Dipping is the way to go.

#4645 10 months ago

Greetings! When buying a WCS, what should I be looking for? Anything particularly fragile in this game?

I read that the free-throw arm is unobtanium?

About to go see one for sale. Thanks guys! Cheers!

#4646 10 months ago

Look the ramps over well, the big one has yet to be remade. Look the boards over, especially the gi lighting section for crispy connectors. The saucers will almost certainly have wear; I mylared mine, or pop a cliffy in if it bothers you. It definitely has a lot going on and is packed with "stuff", but has been running reliably for me since I picked mine up.

#4647 10 months ago

Also do not worry over the soccer ball noise.
They run loud. Believe it or not you do become accustomed to it over time.

#4648 10 months ago

Thanks guys! I was told the GI connectors are a little fried.

If the game was switched to LEDs, that should ease the cooking of the connectors, correct?

Should I then worry about them if all lights work?

Awesome tips. Thanks.

Never really noticed the soccer ball noise because it's always loud where I've played it. Is it loud because of lower gearing?
Are there gears I should be mindful of?

#4649 10 months ago
Quoted from Bendit:

Thanks guys! I was told the GI connectors are a little fried.
If the game was switched to LEDs, that should ease the cooking of the connectors, correct?
Should I then worry about them if all lights work?
Awesome tips. Thanks.
Never really noticed the soccer ball noise because it's always loud where I've played it. Is it loud because of lower gearing?
Are there gears I should be mindful of?

If your soccer ball motor is loud you may be able to quiet it down a little by loosening/tightening the hex screw that attach the ball motor bracket to the playfield. When I say adjust... I mean a 1/4 turn at a time.

#4650 10 months ago

For the backboard I used frosted warm whites instead of yellow, I figure it looks a little bit closer to the color of HPS stadium lights.

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