I have yet to confirm this on my machine. Germany seems to score on average 4-6 goals on me regardless of how many balls. I believe I have it on factory settings.

I tend to keep 3 balls in play usually during the big final.

So I sold my WCS today. So sad to see it go but only have room for 3 pins and the other two are keepers. WCS is such an amazing pin. I love the quick ball times and features. Always a challenge and the level of fun is exactly what pinball is all about. What is incredible is I played it a lot today since it would be gone at 4:00, and I made it to, and beat Germany! Which I hadn’t done in a few months and only beat them twice before. My goalie is like a wall and makes incredible save after incredible save.

If it can convince my wife to rearrange our basement I may be able to get a 4th pin and I would definitely buy this game again.

So I noticed that the new goalie plastic I installed a couple months ago is already broken It's at Pinball Garage; getting played a lot. I want to fix it for them and make it right, and have a spare plastic goalie, but I'm trying to figure out what others do to make this more robust (and figure out what I did wrong). When I worked on the game, it had no goalie plastic at all. I just installed the goalie plastic that came with the game plastic kit from Marco. At the time, I didn't notice that there is apparently a clear piece of plastic. Marco calls it "back plastic" linked here:(https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/03-9134.1). Is this simply a piece to act as a strengthener that goes behind the actual goalie plastic? Is that 'the' thing to do to make it more robust, or is there a better solution?
Leebo

I’ve won like 16-2 before and had 5 out there the whole time. Had a friend plunge them. Haha. I can’t remember the first time I heard that, but it seems accurate.

Put a new topper on it!! What do you think?

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You’ll need to find a way to get the original padded target or make one.

Also the issue with the assist saucer was 100% the cliffy. They cut it off and it works great now.

Also the other two cliffys have curled up already and affect the balls path in a bad way.

Another PSA to avoid cliffy saucer protectors. Mylar is the better choice on this game.

Game played great and looked great otherwise!

Touchdown? (wrong kind of football)

From the photos I've seen, the '94 World Cup referee uniforms were not black and white stripes (nor did they wear caps). Rather, they were black shorts with various color pattern white collar polo style shirts (the red ones were worn in the final).

Regardless, it's your pin and if you like it then do what you want and enjoy.
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Be carefull what you say, it seems he has a gun pointed at his topper!

When I plunge all the balls.... I flip with right hand, and plunge with left hand crossed under my right arm. LOL. I look like an idiot.... but it works

That’s a good move too. If you’re on your game, that should create an infinite loop of goals.

So after moving all my ramps I’ve run into an issue where switch 71 (left ramp after the diverter) isn’t registering. I’m very much new at trying to figure out how to fix it. I assume it isn’t the physical switch since it worked before desoldering and re-soldering. But the connections seem solidly on the switch.

I can’t find any other switches not working. And, for what its worth, this switch doesn’t seem to really do much, the diverter and ball lock still work fine. Not even sure what it not registering matters other than the annoying credit dot.

Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated.

Are you sure it’s wired up properly? Does it register in test mode?

Next time there’s a connector under the playfield you can disconnect instead of desoldering the wires to the switch. Might as well check there too. That connector my be loose.

The ramps I bought had very small holes to feed the wires through. With the molex connectors on the underside there wasn’t really a way to do it I could figure out.

It doesn’t register in test mode. There is one connector both switches on the upper ramp and the right one is working. I guess maybe I should just desolder and re-solder and see if that fixes it by magic

It should be wired up just like the other ramp switches. Compare it with those.

Brilliant. I’m going to try that. Any chance to look like an idiot.

Thanks for the feedback Erik. Man, I hate that they had to cut off the cliffy to make it work better; I really want to have a solid working game when I get done and something that lasts. But it sounds like for this game in particular, the cliffy's on the saucers just don't work too well. Lesson learned for sure. I'm loading up a Marco order now and a supply of Mylar is in the cart to have on hand in the future.

As for the goalie, I have some ideas to make the target repair more robust. Hopefully I can make it back up there soon for a work day and make some improvements.

Yeah I would try to somehow attach some padded foam to your other goalie plastic with some good epoxy or something.

For Mylar I buy it in huge rolls from here:

https://www.pinrestore.com/

I think cliffys are fine for home use for people anal about saucer and scoop edges, but they just get torn up on location.

Are the speakers in this pin wired for mono or stereo? Possibly adding a PinSound to my friends game, so need to know if stereo harness should be ordered to convert wiring if needed.

Oops, just stumbled on the answer - OEM is mono and requires stereo harness from what I see now.

Yep. I don’t think true stereo existed until JPP or spike stern.

Not sure what "JPP" is, but I thought Data East pins were stereo (at least the Jurassic Park I previously owned was).

JJP sorry. I don’t think data East was actual stereo. Just simulated.

So, looks like they referred to it as "Data East Digital Stereo". Also, I've seen posts that stated that DE Laser War was the first pin to have "stereo sound". Not real clear if this was true stereo or digitally simulated stereo, but either way I don't care enough to put any more time into figuring it out at this point.

So Ron Kruzman just listed this WCS NOS Playfield for sale and it is one I haven't seen come up for sale before. I figured someone here would probably want it to restore their machine.

https://pinballplayfieldskruzman.com/2021/03/18/world-cup-soccer-bally-nos-1500/

It's a late sample/early production field, because of the two right-outer loop switches. But they don't have to be populated - this is good for anyone needing a PF.

Oh wow, thanks for the info, that is even cooler to me. I wonder if those switches are in the code at all.

That should sell fast

Yeah that was my thought as well, I'd love to get it myself but I just have so many projects right now that money, time, and space are all issues.

They are, but they only aware a small bit of points. I believe that they would have been used to tell when a ball leaves the pop bumper area via that route, and a ball makes a complete loop. (I can see the game being a LOT more difficult if you don't actually travel to the next city UNLESS you make a complete loop. )

Yeah. I don’t know the difference either. Just read a while back that digital stereo is different than stereo stereo. Haha

I gave the left hand plunge method a shot on Final Match yesterday. I only scored one goal!

its an acquired skill

Well, my WCS friend has decided to acquire a PinSound board. Since I'm quite experienced with developing orchestrations, we'll be doing a custom one for this title. With that said, while he will make the ultimate decision as to what we include, I was wondering what most would consider good soccer tunes that would go well with the theme (I'm not into soccer at all)? We'll need a main title track and several other songs for various game play modes (I've not looked at the stock orchestration yet, so don't know exactly what is needed yet).

Anyway, please throw out your suggestions for good soccer themed/related songs for this pin. The one on the top of my head that I have heard is Seven Nation Army by White Stripes which might be good for the title track.

Few suggestions off the top of my head....

For when you score a goal:

For when you win the Cup:

For when you have the ball locked and final draw is lit:

If this turns out good..... it might be the final push to get me to buy a pinsound

One thing that always bothered me about WC94 was that after you win the cup and the game is going batshit crazy, the crowd is cheering, the music is playing, the lights are going nuts.... and then............ it kicks out the ball to the shooter lane and then it goes quiet and right back to the starting music which kinda TOTALLY kills the mood and takes away all the excitement you just built up from winning.

All awesome, keep them coming.

If you create an orchestration with those three songs in it, plus many others, I'm buying a Pinsound for my World Cup. I have one in my Getaway and thanks to Mr_Tantrum, I have some great music mixes on it. It really enhances the game experience.

For better or worse, I will always associate Tubthumper by Chumbawumba with World Cup and vice versa, because it was featured heavily in World Cup 98 on Playstation

Mine fit ... with that said kinda messed up the goalie shot .

New Owner as of today.

Not liking old mylar.Thinking on removing all of it.
Then busting out my magic eraser and doing a complete top teardown.
Ordered Tiatan translucent and purple sleeves.

Man I hate that aging Mylar I'm imagining a perfect playfield underneath.

All - my machine is still doing something funny. Every time I set the lock, and a ball stays in the lock awaiting multiball, within just a few moments the game ends, and advances to the next player/ball.

I want to replace the fuses related to the lock to see if that helps. Does anyone know which fuses these would be?

I don't think that will help, when you trigger that switch in test what does it say it is?

No issues with the test.

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What else do you think it might be?

Could be the trough registering a ball drain with a faulty switch.

There are two switches there-- 77 and 76. Did you test both? I recommend checking in Switch Edges test mode, and run a ball down to make sure it's not touching both switches or is at least activating one and then the other.

Got a credit dot for switch 71. Anyone know what that is? It certainly doesn't seem to affect gameplay.

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upper left-hand side of the ramps, right by soccer player's foot/ball (circular plastic) in your pic. It's just before the ball drops down to the lower ramp and rolls to the magnet

Thanks. Does it even do anything or is it just a sound effect?

The first print shows what happens when you don't pay attention to the resolution of your scan versus the resolution of your editing software. 300dpi scan, 96dpi editing software.

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I appreciate the advise. My plan is to put down the waterslide decal and then cover it with a strip of mylar. This should spread out the minor rise of the decal, hopefully with minimal air. I think that will produce the most seamless results, but understand that it won't be as perfect as applying a new layer of clearcoat over the entire game. You are correct about the white printing. My plan there will be to trim the current "sticker" from Pinball Center and place my waterslide decal around it.

At minimum, it lets the game know you've exited that ramp. I don't think you'll get points/credit for the ramp otherwise.