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#428 4 years ago

I have a few woodrails including a 1956 4 Player Williams "Fun House" which is listed having
good value and has a high ranking on the database, but thinking maybe it got somewhat confused
with the 1990 Williams Funhouse. It has a chunk out of one of the backglasses corners, but the
rest is nice. If it is a good player, maybe something to put time in..
I'm mainly metal rail, but the Rocket Ship's nice enough to someday have set up, but for now
the cabs. still wrapped..

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#447 4 years ago
Quoted from oldcarz:

Interesting is that in 1954 only, Gottlieb made a few games with a Double Award -

Those are nice looking woodrails set up there. Also nice to see these older machines still being enjoyed..
"Minors not permitted to play this game", is that because of the Double Award?
I have a few woodrails, and don't remember seeing that phrase.. (T)

11 months later
#551 3 years ago
Quoted from DCRand:

And thinking that touching up on the back side of triple thick is safer than trying to touch up directly on the glass.

Yes, I have always done the touch ups after sealing, but I don't seal unless it is very necessary, and when I do,
the glasses are kept primarily at a maintained temperature..
The last glass that I had done, I sealed with clear vinyl, and so far, very pleased with its results..

1 week later
#565 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

My grail pin arrived and what a beauty!

That's a different themed pin. I like it!

#567 3 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

After we settled down in our new home I asked my friends to get the name of the game from the backglass

So fortunate that the backglass was saved. Without it, that's a title that would have been tough to reveal..
If at all possible, I like original also. A machine that age isn't suppose to look perfect. It's nice to hear that you have
your long lost pin. Be nice to see more once you have it up and running..
I'm mostly into metal rails, but do have a few woodrails. If it hadn't takin' this machine to complete a deal for one
of the last machines on the wanted list, this is one of a few woodrails that one day I would have had set up..
The plastics were the only thing bad on the machine, which I did get replacements. She'll be leaving in a couple of
weeks, so I thought I'd place her here. This one is also going to a Fella that's now retired and he remembers having
one as a teenager, so I'm happy for him..
And BTW, if I got in a Grand Champ, I think that's one of a few I'd keep and set up. I don't remember seeing another
themed pin like it..

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#600 3 years ago

Just a little bit ago, I also took a couple pics for a fellow collector that had asked..

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#720 2 years ago
Quoted from nomo:

What year is it? I'm guessing 1955.

Actually United's Venus Target Shuffle is a 1955. A couple weeks ago, I traded in the 4th
one that I had. I had a 1954 Comet Shuffle, and I believe there's one from 1952/53, and
possible another early 50s. I believe Alex's is a 1950, and most likely the first Skee-Ball
Shuffle that United produced. I'm a sucker for those Target Shuffles. I believe I had nine
total, and presently have a 1965 Kick-a-Poo (Williams/United) and 1955 United 5th Inning
(Man-Run-the-Bases) set up. Here's a pic of the head of the 1955 Venus that I recently
got in. They're a fun playing game..

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#723 2 years ago
Quoted from Stoomer:

Why am I not surprised that the VST head is resting on a keg.

Ha, ha Sean, even an empty keg can surprisingly have a purpose..
You of coarse are welcome here 24/7, but the next good size gathering is February 23rd,
however, I understand in January, there may be something happening in your fairly neighboring
town of Spencer. I'll keep you filled in.. (T)

11 months later
#991 1 year ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

the hot red head on the left has no face either!

I remember saying the same thing on those hang over Sunday mornings..

#1000 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Not many woodrail lovers out there but I'm one of them.

I primarily have 60s and 70s set up, but do have a few woodrails stored.
Although for now, I'm out of room, I'm thinking about going through then having
one set up. I have never played any of these titles, but my considerations are Williams
Sea Wolf, Gusher, Nags, 1956 Fun House, Gottleb Rocket Ship, Bally Balls-a-Poppin.
I have a few others, but pretty sure these are my best choices. Any suggestions?

#1011 1 year ago
Quoted from Murphdom:

In October of ‘56 it cost $70

And in 1958/59, machines sure went up quickly!

#1012 1 year ago
Quoted from Murphdom:

I vote Nags and Balls-a-Poppin.

Quoted from pinwiztom:

i would choose Balls A Poppin

Yup, those were the two I mostly had in mind.
I really don't have room for anymore, but one day I'll
have another 1,200 sq. ft. to work with, and also still
have some old EM arcades machines that I had never
played before. Hoping they'll be set up one of these days..

#1013 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

Nags is not enough to compete with the great players Williams Rocket and Arrow Head.

Looks like I'll have to keep an eye out for a "Rocket" and "Arrow Head"..
Actually, the only replay machine I have set up is Star Jet (because of
its uniqueness). After playing AABs for so long, I find myself not being
able to get into Replay machines so much..
If Gottlieb convinced the State Officials back in the 50s that getting a
free ball was not a form of gambling, I'm sure I'd have a couple strings
of woodrails along a couple of the walls..

#1019 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

this might be the game for you.

As such? Notice that it's missing one of the red plastics along the side.
I'm sure I can match the color to a white one, but if anyone may know
if other woodrails have red, I'd like to know. The rest of the game is
complete. I have a couple of the metal rail Flippers also, one nice, one
in need of a playfield if there happens to be a playfield around..

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#1023 1 year ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

A few were done as woodrails during that transition period in early 60s

Yes, the best I understand it is that the first <50 Flippers produced were woodrails, but this I'm not sure of.
I've only seen a pic of one other. Ralpheal's (I believe is the name) from Paris. Looks mint. Cabinet redone
with the same scheme as the one that I have. I'm leaning that it's an original woodrail Flipper but the Gottlieb
Logo on the playfield is all white as are the metal rails. My sample is white and orange the same as other Gottlieb
woodrails titles prior..
While purchasing a bg from Shay, and knowing that he has a woodrail Flipper, I asked if the glass is exactly
the same as the woodrail's, and he said that it's exact, and come to find out, it's not the same as my original.
It's lacking the phrase "As American As Baseball And Hot Dogs". I'm thinking that all woodrail Flippers are not
samples, but I'm still a little up in the air. There's at least 11 samples which mine is (#11) but not sure high up that went.
If anyone has or knows anyone with a woodrail Flipper, I wouldn't mind connecting..

3 months later
#1103 1 year ago
Quoted from MarkG:

Shorter #55 bulbs were sometimes used in pop bumpers to move the filament away from the bumper cap. It helped keep the cap a bit cooler and may have avoided the common burn spot on the underside of the cap. Cooler #47 bulbs are another option.

I always use #51 bulbs for the Pop Bumpers. A little dimmer, but shorter and no heat.
The Cowpoke I went through earlier this month had those flat push in bulbs (forgot the name)
under the caps. When rebuilding the bumpers, I changed them to the regular thumper sockets.
Must be Gottlieb used those other sockets from time to time. I think I remember the Melody also
having them..

3 months later
#1171 1 year ago

I'm making space and I have a 1941 Bally Moniker. If anyone is or going to be in the Upstate N.Y. area, your welcome to stop by and pick it up. It's missing the coin door and top backglass trim. Backglass
looks okay, and playfield seems alright but needs new bumper bodies, rings, etc. Needs a good cleaning.
I also have an early 50s Genco gun game. Needs much work, but doable.

9 months later
#1388 5 months ago

I have a few woodrails, but mostly 60s/70s machines.
Do you Guys have an opinion on Gottliebs 1950 Joker?
Once I get the other few woodrails set up, wondering
if Joker would be a nice piece for the line up..

#1393 5 months ago
Quoted from oldcarz:

I set my tilt to very liberal and allow the games to be shaken. Part of the necessary strategy on these games is to be able to nudge them, and I have tilted a few games in my video attempts.

I set my machines for nudging also. That's what EM pins are meant for. Even after flippers.
I'm mostly into metal rail, but EMs are Ems. The history in your Game Room. Would love to check
them out.
I have a chance to trade in a Joker. If in decent shape, in short, I'll be taking your advice..

1 month later
#1406 4 months ago

I do have a few woodrails, but mostly metal rails..
From what I see on the IPDB, Gottlieb 1952 "Happy Days" seems to be
an enjoyful player. I have a chance trading in a working one, and it looks
okay from the pics..
Might anyone have a Happy Days set up, and if so, what's your thoughts? (T)

#1408 4 months ago
Quoted from jsf24:

If I was going to make a trade for it, I would not be giving up something I enjoy playing.

No, it's not anything I really play, but something I put on Craigs List and maybe asked less than what
I could have gotten for it. I got many hits, and the Happy Days seem to be my best bet at the moment,
and probably a better trading piece than what I'm selling, and then again, I may hang onto the Happy
Days, or at least until I once again run out of room.. Thanks for the response..

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#1415 3 months ago

I have them around someplace, but a quick question on Williams 1958 Gusher.
Are the legs 28.5" Also I'm thinking they're suppose to be red, and should Sea Wolf's
legs be red?
Thanks for any responses..

#1417 3 months ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I believe they are 31" legs.

31"? I wouldn't have thought that. I'm pretty sure when I got the Gusher in it
came with red legs. I'll look in the barn for some 31" red legs. I can't remember
what color the Sea Wolf's were when it came in, but when the time comes, I'll
make sure to put on some red ones..

#1419 3 months ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Think Williams were 28.5 non-ribbed.

I'm not sure about the wooden, but I was thinking Williams metal legs were 28.5".
Another question. Anyone hear of a Chicago Coin titled "Golden Ball?"
As of now, I only know it's light scoring and the Flippers are facing the traditional (modern)
way. He said it's absolutely Golden Ball, and its a Chicago Coin.
I'm waiting on pics myself..
Edit: Turns out I was givin' incorrect information. It's called Gold Ball and it's pre-flipper.
I found it to be a 1947 Chicago Coin. Probably nothing special, or might it be?

#1422 3 months ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

I think they are 31" red for late 50s.

Damn, I checked and have a few older looking red legs, and all but one were 31"
When Gusher came in, I'm pretty sure they were freshly painted legs, so I figured
not any of those 31s came with Gusher, so I just sanded, primed, and painted some
28.5" Last Fall while cleaning and clearing out the addition's upstairs, things got shuffled.
In the Winter I'll be doing more extensive projects, but Gusher was shopped when getting
in, so it should be a fairly quick freshening upper and the next rainy day(s) project..

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#1424 3 months ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I see a chrome leg, and I want to paint it red..

Thinking 28.5" was the way to go and only finding one in red, I grabbed a set of old looking
28.5" light gray legs (probably C.C.) and painted them red.
Not sure how many, but I know there's extra legs stached in the far corner where I got them..

#1427 3 months ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

The bottom is formed by bending both sides into the middle. Then a separate threaded plate is spot welded that accepts the leveler. I also noticed they a slightly more flimsy than later 70s style. The steel is a bit thinner.

Okay, I'll look for that style legs, but if no luck, not having exact doesn't bother me myself a whole
lot. As long as they look decent.
Pretty sure I got that machine in with decent looking repainted legs, but who's to say if they were
original or not..

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#1431 3 months ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

I think they are 31" red for late 50s.

Well, Gusher is back on its feet standing tall on its 31" legs.
It's been a few years, but it had been shopped when getting in, and
although they're free, I'm going to at least go through the steppers
before plugging in..
As far as pins, the only Replay machine that's set up is Star Jet.
Gusher is the same as most Replay machines with 5 balls inserted,
right? (T)

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#1433 3 months ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

.Painted, painted, painted, painted black!..

"I had a red door and I wanted it painted black"..
As far as the legs. I like them all as long as they're
lengthy and lean..

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#1437 3 months ago

Well, I had a fairly open afternoon, so I freshened up the steppers on
Gusher. Made a few contact adjustments. Cleaned/waxed the playfield.
Worked on a few light sockets, and she's back in action..
It was 90% led'd when getting in, so I left her the same.
Not that I played an extreme amount, but for me myself, the best single
player Replay machine that I had played up to this point..
I believe it's the 1st woodrail (pinball) I'll actually have set up in a line
up, and now having a little more room, I'm sure there will be a few others..
And one nice little surprise. It actually does get only 1 ball inserted..
And yea. When the pop bumper is up and the ball lands in the upper kicker
hole. The pop bumper drops down, the upper kicker kicks the ball down to
the kicker that's at the bottom of the horseshoe type deal. Then that kicker
kicks it back up to the upper kicker which activates the pop bumper to rise
again. A nice little feature Harry threw in there..
btw: I took the pic waist high so JR wouldn't ride my ass about those damn ribs..
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#1439 82 days ago

Been quite busy outdoors, but now and then I snucked in the game room and worked on the Sea Wolf.
Have her pretty much ready for the line up to put next to her cousin.
Gusher's lower playfield indicates it got some use in its day, but no noticeable effect on its performance.
With a little nudge, the slings can still bring the ball to the top and I do like it's game play quite a bit..
Now Sea Wolf's playfield is very respectable. The play meter works, but not so sure if it's been flipped.
There's a little ball marking along the upper arch, but very minimum..

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#1441 82 days ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Your Gusher PF looks in similar shape to mine, especially KOHole wear and general wear&flaking across the selector lights field.

And I understand there's others much worse, and it doesn't surprise me a whole lot.
I'm into Add-a-Balls, but Gusher I do like. I'd have to think many had plenty of nickles/
dimes dropped in them. On mine, the Play Meter works and registers 7843, but I'm sure
that's been flipped, and most likely a few times..
Now and then giving her a decent wax is the best bet I suppose..

#1442 80 days ago

Still favor Gusher, but getting into Sea Wolf.
All lit numbers out on playfield, all lit on backglass.
Not (at least for me) so easy to do..

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#1445 80 days ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Looks quite challenging. Especially to get that special!

Yea, I didn't get it in that Special hole, but if I did, having both
the red and blue 1-7 targets hit, it would have gave 2 Replays.
One for each set..

#1446 80 days ago
Quoted from Gotemwill:

What game is next in the queue?

Because I've been asked to get it set up for quite some time,
I think I'll maybe stay with the Williams woodrails and go through
the Nags keeping the string going. 58, 59, and 60. And then maybe
go through some reverse Wedge Heads, but might first slip 1961
Skill Ball in there..

#1448 79 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Sea Wolf playfield looks interesting. Bet it is fun to play.

Yea. For not being far from strictly into Add-Balls, I'm liking Sea Wolf.
Went through a Gusher earlier, which I still like better, but I might say.
Sea Wolf seems to be closing in.
Once the ball is on the lower half, it's a challenge getting it back to the
top, but possible. With those upper Flippers and 2 active Thumpers,
you're able to sometimes keep it up there for a while..
I feel one reason the playfield's in pretty good shape is because when popping
out of the 2 lower kick out holes, the sling's rubbers absorb the ball's landing.
I studied it coming out of the kick-outs for a little while, and I feel safe to
say that the ball hits the slings' rubber rings just before making contact on the
playfield. Consist on both sides.

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#1449 79 days ago

Well, Sea Wolf's been played enough.
I'm confident she's ready for the line up.
It may have takin' 62 years, but she now
found her Forever Home..

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#1450 78 days ago

Pretty busy week coming up, but this one's about to come out of the gates next..
I'm thinking this one gets 28.5" red legs, right?

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#1452 78 days ago
Quoted from stashyboy:

Your game spacing (maybe temporary) is why Gottlieb created wedgeheads

Yea, it's only temporary. I moved the baseball machine, and now there's room for Nags.
Then the Night Rider and Black Jack will be getting moved and replaced with a couple Williams
early 60s single players, then those 5 machines can be spaced out and that'll make plenty of
room for side by side flipping..
After measuring the thicker (taller) cabinet on Nags, 28.5" should bring it pretty close
to the same height as Sea Wolf and Nags, but I'll wait for possible confirmation.
I'll make a little deal. You keep an eye out for a Satellite. I'll keep an eye out for a Sea Wolf..

#1454 77 days ago
Quoted from Gritty:

Can't wait to see what you do wit Nags. It looks like its in decent shape from the looks of the head.

I won't be able to do much with it this week, but next week I'll be skipping in there time to time..
I usually first do the head, then prop her up so she's standing on her own 4 feet. Bottom board out.
B.B. in. Underneath playfield. Trouble shoot. Then strip and clean the playfield.
She's in pretty good shape, but notice some flaking on the playfield that I hadn't seen before, so
once a take a couple pics, I'll be asking for suggestions, but for now I'm maybe thinking a properly
cut piece of mylar..

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#1455 69 days ago

Well, a bit rainy today, so I went through the head of Nags. One of the race track's
perches was loose, so I glued that and will be putting the head's components back in
before long..
Also got the main Pony standing on it's 4 legs..

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#1458 68 days ago
Quoted from Dono:

and there sits NAGS 20+ years after it came out, still collecting for the operator.

That's pretty cool! There can't be many that can say they remember playing a Nags when
on location, although it doesn't surprise me a whole lot that a game like Nags could still hold
it's own many years later..

#1460 68 days ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

I see a Palooka head in the first picture.

Oops! Am I maybe insinuating a weeks suspension from this thread having a metal
rail in one of the pics? I'll practice on being a little more discrete while taking future
pictures..
O.k., anyways. A couple weeks ago I took a pic of one of Palooka's plastic for a Fellow
collector, and since I eventually plan on having a few Reverse Wedge Heads set up, I
figured I'd bring it right into the room.
Now for that other head. That machine is what gave me all 4 true 2 Player U.S. Gottlieb
Add-a-Balls..

#1462 68 days ago

Haha. I was only joking about that..
Yea, some like Palooka, and some not so much, but years back an old time vendor mechanic
told me that in 1970 when he first started, a Palooka was still on route and every week the
coin box would be full to the top with dimes. Many must have liked its simplicity..
When she was over, that's all one Friend would play. So now that I have the space, I'll be setting
it back up..

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#1463 66 days ago

Well, Wednesday I jumped back in the saddle, and today I finished getting
the Nags completed and gone through, and have to give Stevein Texas a nice
well deserved Thank You for taking the time to take pics of the labels. It was a
big plus, for I was completely missing the labels for the relays in the Reset Bank..
I had a problem not getting the Gate Relay which activates the Game Relay
which puts the machine in Game Mode and me not being use to a machine that takes
5 Balls, Steve informed me that the ball needs to pass through one of the upper
guide lanes before the Flippers would work, then I instantly realized that's what
energizes the Gate Relay. I was trouble shooting and there was no trouble! After
going through it, the machine worked 100%, and I didn't even know it. Haha.
The flippers are strong, and everything seems to be working as they should, but
all except one insert had to be reset and glued, so tomorrow I'll give it a little
workout before putting her in the line up..
It's in decent shape except for one spot in the upper left. The playfield appears
to have been clear coated, and that one spot looks as if something didn't take
just right, but it seems to be stable. Not moving, so I'll just keep a little eye on it..

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#1467 65 days ago
Quoted from Hyperball91:

Here's a bit of the artwork I did for him.

Quoted from Hyperball91:

That looks to be in great condition Mopar. Well done. I quite like Nags and I remember doing work for Steves worn platter over 6 years ago now. Here's a bit of the artwork I did for him

Thanks!, and from what I see, good looking art work. Nags surely is worth the time..

#1468 65 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

Very nice looking Nags !

Thanks NG!

Quoted from Darcy:

Oh my! Are those high scores carved/written into the coin door? Those look like hard scores to beat. Has game has seen plenty of play?

Yup, they're high scores and they're not carved in deeply, but they surely don't clean off.
Yes, they are great scores. If I had that type of game, I might even carve the score.
No, no, no! Not really. (Well maybe on the backdoor. "haha")
I had another Nags at the same time I had this one, but despite the high score carvings, this
cabinet (and I believe the entire machine) is in better shape, but still maybe should have
hung onto the other one until I had one shopped and gone through..
Two things were/are missing from this machine. The Score Card, and the play meter, so no
way of telling how much play it has seen, but she's not a bad looker.
As someone has stated, the only bell is the one when a horse wins.
While playing a machine from this era, silence is a bit boring, so today I added a bell to the
1's, and another to the 10's Relay. To me, it makes for a much better player, which it absolutely
is, but for me, I maybe think I like Gusher's and Sea Wolf's play a little better..

#1469 64 days ago

I have a quick question. I know 1956 Williams pins used wooden legs, but were
they commonly red, or 50/50 red/stained? IPDB has a Fun House flyer, but black
and white. Can't tell the legs' color. If both were used somewhat equally, I think
maybe red would look best..

#1471 64 days ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

My Screamo has red legs. Looks like stain.

Okay, Thanks. So you're thinking they came factory stained.
Yea, I have a Fun House. Although I'm basically EM metal rail,
years back I made a trading deal only because I liked the looks
of Fun House (although a chunk was missing from the backglass),
and later learned how rare it seems to be. I see another one on
the IPDB, which actually it's playfield's basic color appears to be black,
mine is blue, but I don't know of another..
The height of the front of Fun House's cabinet is 11 3/4". I'm sure
it's the same as Screamo's. Do you happen to know what length Screamo's
legs are? In the barn I found 2 different lengths with one a little wider
and an inch shorter. I think those are the ones, but I like to make sure
before I begin to work on them..
I had a new glass made. It looks and performs exactly as if it were
silk screened. I had an extra one made so it would be more worth the effort
for my Graphic Designer and hoping someone could use it, but as I pretty
much figured, no one responded back saying they could use one..

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#1473 64 days ago
Quoted from jaytrem:

Screamo cabinet is indeed the same size. Legs are 32 1/2". I'm not sure if they came stained originally, but they must have been stained a long time ago to fade like they did.

Okay, Thanks.
Yea, it looks like they were painted over. I've seen pics of both stained and red legs
on Williams machines from that era. Perhaps others will chime in on their 50s Williams
wooden legs..
Just a little bit ago, I brought it up to the game room. The cabinets in decent original
shape, but did a little gluing and clamping in one spot. Once I get her stood up with
her legs on, I'll take some pics..
The other 3 late 50s Williams I have set up has red metal legs, so this one with red legs
would look good sitting next to them, but if I can find out what mostly likely it had originally,
that's what I would like to go with..
Here's some pics I had loaded in the laptop takin' a few years ago.
The playfield should clean up nicely, and now it has a new glass..

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#1476 64 days ago

Yea. It seems when Williams first made the transition to metal legs,
red was their standard color..
I'm not sure if they choose that color before they went with metal,
but I think I'll be leaving the wooden ones stained..

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#1478 63 days ago

Well, played quite a few flawless games on Nags,
and now officially qualifies to be in the line up..

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#1479 63 days ago
Quoted from jaytrem:Screamo cabinet is indeed the same size. Legs are 32 1/2". I'm not sure if they came stained originally,

So, right after having coffee, I went looking in the barn for some 32 1/2" legs in the wooden leg
pile, and off to the side I see 4 wooden legs apart from the others. I looked them over, and part
of the masking tape was missing, but enough to show the word "House". Measured, and yup, 32.5".
Also, the upper backside of them where it makes contact with the cabinet has the same shade
blue as Fun House cabinet in that area which pretty much confirms that at least this 1956 Williams
came with stained legs..

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#1480 63 days ago

I have a couple good size outdoor projects this week, but have the Fun House's
head in position. The score reels are dirty, but they look good and are semily
free. Same with the stepper in the head. Not working smoothly, but far from frozen.
And last week while moving machines, I find a Fun House schematic that I didn't
remember having in a not so safe spot it had no business being in. Made me pleasantly
surprised. Maybe something to bring up in the "Happy Thread" haha..

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#1481 59 days ago

Well, Fun House is pretty much ready for the line up.
Was missing a bell and the Knocker, but I was able to piece
them together. All else was complete including the 5 & 25
cent coin switches. I have all Bumper Skirt colors on hand,
except for light green. Only had one, so after the next order,
2 of them will have to be put on, but for now the old ones are
working okay. Also, the non-active Bumper at the top I'd have to think
should have a Dome "Points 10 When Lit) cap. (scores 10 when lit).
The 1 and 2 Trap Door lights when the Trap Doors were unlocked
were in reverse. The soldered wires on the Change Unit Step Up all
looked factory, but after some testing, the wires for the #1 & 2 Trap
Door coils were reversed on the Change Relay. All is good now, and I
can see this machine being played in the 50s. She's a nice little multi-
player, and honored she'll be going in the line up..

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#1484 58 days ago
Quoted from DCRand:

Nice looking pin room.

Thanks. My 3rd one, but the additions absolutely 100% has to stop here. haha

#1485 58 days ago
Quoted from undrdog:

That is the door from Hi-Hand. Wms 1957. Did they use it on different machines?

Yea. Must be they carried it over from the following year.
The only other example I can find of Fun House is on IPDB
and the cabinet's been painted, however, there's a flyer
and it shows it is the original coin door..

#1487 57 days ago

As far as I recollect, The Fun House was the 4th and last of my Williams woodrail pins.
5 pins will fit in that row between windows, so until another Williams woodrail is scooped
up, this will be next to be gone through and will be going in that 5th spot.
I'm pretty sure late 50 Gottliebs take 31" legs, right?

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#1489 57 days ago
Quoted from MikeO:

Yes, assuming you are referring to single player games.

Yup. The Rocket Ship..

#1490 57 days ago

One quick question. On the Rocket Ship, the 10,000's Unit was a mess. I got all the cobbed up
springs straightened out, and some of the EM arcade stuff has the same stepper bell, but on the
10,000's Unit bell, does the end of the arm that strikes the bell suppose to have a round metal
washer type item attached to it and makes contact with the bell itself? The end of the arm is striking the
bell and it rings, but there's a hole at the end of the arm as if something was once riveted onto it that
perhaps makes contact with the bell. Seems like machines with Stepper Bells that I've went through
had a circular metal or nylon type washer attached to the end of the arm..
Can anyone confirm? Thanks in advance..

#1492 57 days ago
Quoted from MarkG:

From the '60 Gottlieb Parts Catalog:

Thanks Mark.
The arm does look as if it has a washer type item at the end.
I'm kinda remembering them not being metal or maybe not
nylon either, but I think I'll first go with a nylon washer that
will slightly overlap the circular end of the arm..

#1494 54 days ago
Quoted from wayner:

This is a pic of my Rocket Ship stepper with the ring although it appears washers were once installed.

Yea, okay. Thanks. I appreciate it!
This morning I had to take some pics of the Slick Chick, and I noticed its
0-9 stepper's bell arm had a washer. I didn't carefully look, but there
probably is a washer on the backside also..
The bell rings fine, but I'll probably locate a couple washers the right size
and apply them with a small bolt. I checked, and it's a #6 bolt that fits the
hole decently. Not that it would absolutely wear a hole, but a couple added
washers would cover more of the bells surface so the bell wouldn't be
receiving only a thin spot every time the bell's arm made contact..

#1495 54 days ago

Well, all is going fine with the Rocket Ship, but only being into metal rails forever,
does the light board actually have to be (semily) removed to change the backglass?
Looks like no other way..
Also, there's a "Game Over" on the backside of the backglass, but the machine I have
has the hole for a light socket where "Game Over" is, but no socket or any signs that
there was any socket ever screwed in it. There's no lead wire or neutral jumper wire
traveling near the socket opening either..
Because it displays the balls in the Card Tray, was it common for some not to have a
Game Over light?
If it's not particularly normal, I'll add one so it lights and shows "Game Over" after the
5th ball drains.
Any thoughts and/or confirmation will be much appreciative. (T)

#1498 54 days ago
Quoted from jsf24:

Yes light board must be removed in order to get backglass out.

Yup, Thanks. I didn't see any other way..

#1504 53 days ago
Quoted from wayner:

Bulb holder installed in 'vacant hole' with x2 leads

This morning I added the "Game Over" socket and bulb. Not yet having a schematic (it came in the afternoon)
and not having many Replay machines, I didn't think of tapping into the match feature.
The Game Over Relay already has a 6 V set of switches that's closed when tripped (game 0ver).
So I ran a led off of that, soldered in an open prong that was in a head's jones plug, and all is fine.
Only took maybe half hour, but I'm sure the match feature route would have been quicker.

#1505 53 days ago

Well, I think I have the Rocket Ship pretty much ready for the line up.
She's a pretty good looker, but mechanically was another story especially
the 10,000 Step Up. After changing all the cobbed up springs, I had it working
okay, then last night it was behaving radically. I took it apart and saw the problem.
The plunger's arm must have been bad, and got much worse as I was trouble
shooting, and would you know it, I just placed a PBR order (which came in today), so
early this morning I hunted in the bens and found one from a Wedge Head's stepper
that looked pretty darn close. With a little fabricating, got it to work and the 10,000
Unit is now performing issue free..

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#1506 53 days ago
Quoted from wayner:

Bulb holder installed in 'vacant hole' with x2 leads

Oh yes. Also, Thank You for taking the time sending those pics.
Very much appreciated..
I'll keep that method in mind if the same situation comes up again. (T)

#1507 53 days ago
Quoted from DCRand:

Would hold about 10 games. Probably a late winter, spring project.

10 additional pins set up is quite a bit, but be careful.
I tried that and it turned into pin storage. So I tried it
a 2nd time, and same thing. haha..

#1510 52 days ago
Quoted from NoQuarters:

That Rocket Ship really looks nice !

Thank You.
I'm pretty much metal rail, but years back after seeing a Rocket Ship in a local listing,
I called, and it turned out I knew him.
He did all the cosmetic work including shopping out the playfield with new components,
but he didn't touch the mechanics. I found receipts in the envelope, and quite a little bit
was spent on cosmetic pieces including two new cigarette holders which I'll be attaching
once I pick up the proper screws.. (T)

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#1511 50 days ago

Well, the last 5 machines I went through were woodrails, and they're now
all side by side in a line up..
Only a couple others played these machines so far, and they said they favor
Fun House, and as much as I like the others (especially Gusher and Sea Wolf),
I think I have to agree..

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#1512 50 days ago

After doing 5 straight woodrails, I was planning on doing some early 60s machines,
but I think I'll slip B-a-P in next.
After cleaning, the playfield should turn out decent, but it could surely use a set of plastics.
I already sent an email to Shay, but for backup, does anyone know of anyone else
that may possible carry a set?
Oh, and yes. No question. That femmie pattern on the Card Tray and side walls will
be going..

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#1514 50 days ago

haha. Over the years if seeing a desirable machine and was able to trade and not have shipped,
I picked it up. Outside of the woodrail Flipper and a couple Guys Dolls, I believe B-a-P is the last
of the woodrail pins..

#1516 49 days ago
Quoted from Murphdom:

I know that tomcons has made the plastics.

Okay, I'll give him a try. Thanks!

#1523 43 days ago

Well, been spending a little time going through the B-a-P and got her playing nicely..
As faded as it is, I don't mind the aging look of the cabinet at all, but the front was
painted a dark green with a couple of runs and needed body filling, so had no choice
but doing some sanding and repair..
Once all painted, wish I knew a matching way to give that front a 65 year old look..
Oh yes, I checked, and no plastics presently available, so I cut blanks, and going
to have a set made..

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#1524 41 days ago

Today I spent most of the day adding a little music to the Balls-a-Poppin.
Because each score reel gets fed directly through The Player Step Up (no
Score Relays), each Player's 1s and 10s Score Reels had to have its own
individual relay to impulse the bells, thus, instead of a 1/2 hour, it was
pretty much an all day job..
It might not look very professional, but what a difference during game
play especially when those "Wild Balls" get released..

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