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Woodrail Pinballs

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#401 5 years ago

Oh that Hawaiian Beauty is just fantastic! The backglass on the Cyclone is a beauty too.........Parker.

#402 4 years ago

Great new additions Joel

Who wouldn't want a HB?!

And love the backglass for Cyclone.

#403 4 years ago
Quoted from presqueisle:

Wow are those before, or after pictures? Sweet!

Thanks, all. These are pix before the machines head to the shop.
The Cyclone has been in storage for awhile and all mechanicals will need to be gone through. Steppers aren't frozen, but everything needs attention and freshening. The cabinet has very good original paint, naturally chipped and scratched, but I want the coin door fixed and some splits in the cabinet addressed. Then, at most, some tasteful touchups to hide the repairs and other scars. Playfield shows heavy wear as this is a game with lots of pop bumper activity and has two kicker lanes. Someone in the past tried putting in posts/nails, etc., so I'd like to get this damage tastefully fixed.

Hawaiian Beauty and Rose-Bowl, also, haven't been played for awhile, but generally will need new rubbers, lamps, and the full shopping of any new game added to the lineup. Both of these will be a faster fix-up than the Cyclone as I plan on leaving the little nits alone on those playfields and cabinets.

Early best wishes for a Happy Holiday.

J

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#404 4 years ago

Wow! Those are beautiful games! I love the Cyclone.

Bruce

#405 4 years ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Wow! Those are beautiful games! I love the Cyclone.
Bruce

Worth looking at the glass again - love it!

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#406 4 years ago

Anyone looking for a for a United 1947-1949 cash box?

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#407 4 years ago

Still waiting on budgeting in the reproduction plastics but I did get it down into the basement gameroom about a week or two ago and sometimes I have found myself going down in the mornings and early afternoons just to play a few games on it and head back up when I'm done! Addicting! (A lot of the times my other machines get love too, thankfully even more due to this machine dragging me down there)

Found a great spot for it where it doesn't look too out of place from all of the metal rail games.

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#408 4 years ago

Here we go, had a dig up a picture of the cabinet to show how stellar the condition is, no repaints or touchup ever. This is fully original from way back in 1955. 1,000 made, very little left.

(It's Gottlieb's Southern Belle, by the way)

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#409 4 years ago

******** Very Nice *******
John

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#410 4 years ago

Woodrail pinballs all in a row. Kings is still a work in progress. Struggle Buggies will get it's legs someday.

Happy holidays everyone!

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#411 4 years ago

Happy Holidays to you. A wonderful Pinsider and good friend to the community. Best wishes to all.
Joel

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#412 4 years ago

Happy New Year all:
Later today is the 2017 Rose Bowl and we Pennsylvanians are excited that our Penn State Lions are meeting USC’s Trojans.

Speaking of the 2017 Rose Bowl, I’m sharing pix and a video of the 1951 Gottlieb Rose Bowl (Michigan vs. California) which recently came out of the shop, all freshly detailed and playing well. Had a bunch of folks over this past weekend for our Holiday get together and gave all the games a workout.

This game was completely repainted and restored about 20 years ago and according to the previous owner, was played until about 2 years ago. So other than freeing up a few stuck steppers, and the expected replacement of rubbers and lamps, it’s game time. As with all my games, they are under service contract with Pinrescue and always happy to give a little shout out to them in my videos and posts for their on-going assistance with me.

Unusual scoring scheme - the game starts up with a random score (number of touchdowns) that you have to tie, then beat to earn extra games. Typically, from 7-12 is the number of touchdowns. As the ball moves through the playfield, hitting certain bumpers or roll overs will advance an illuminated football on the art glass in 5 or 10 yard increments. Advancing the ball sufficiently will score touch downs, as well as hitting certain kickers. Getting a touchdown sounds a nice hearty 5 inch bell…the only bell on this game since there are no 10,000 stepper/clapper bells.

Game is moderately difficult and like many titles of this era, requires some patience in learning the skill shots necessary to take out certain bumpers and nudging. I’m liberal with the tilt on my woodies…want them to be played but not destroyed.

In the video clip of the 1951 Rose Bowl, California’s (#23) Jim Marinos passes to (#80) Robert Cummings for TD in the second quarter. Richter’s extra point fails. Crowd cheers. But Wolverines rally.

Wolverines win Rose Bowl 14-6

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#413 4 years ago

Beautiful game! Great video too.

Good luck to your team today.

#414 4 years ago

Just another woodrail I would love to play.

I notice it has a 'somewhat' similar playfield to All-Star Basketball.

Which isn't bad... considering ASB is a great game.

Looks nice!

#415 4 years ago
Quoted from ramegoom:

Anyone looking for a for a United 1947-1949 cash box?

Nobody?

#416 4 years ago

oldcarz

Nice collection of woodrails ! Rose Bowl sure is pretty along with the all the others in your pictures. Big thumbs up.

#417 4 years ago

Beautiful game and collection. Thanks for sharing.

#418 4 years ago

Great video of that game!! Makes me want to find one.

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#419 4 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Great new additions Joel
Who wouldn't want a HB?!
And love the backglass for Cyclone.

Thanks all, for the compliments.

Here’s some pix of the 1954 Gottlieb Hawaiian Beauty that recently came out of the shop. It’s the second one that I have owned and it was quickly back on my short list since I really regretted selling the first one.
The game hadn’t been played in awhile and needed full service as well as an exorcism of the gremlins afflicting the steppers and cold solders.
Last year, I did post a blurb about the first game on Pinside with a short video:

(https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/1954-gottlieb-hawaiian-beauty)

This second acquisition had been tastefully repainted and the wood refinished by the previous owner. My preference is to try and find a title with good original paint, but sometimes there is no choice. Playfield is original and in very good shape with minor paint loss and just a few blemishes from some early attempts at modifying posts. Pop bumper caps, flippers and ball shooter gauge are nice marbleized versions. Apron and score card are showing their age, but they are a rare original, and act as a nice touch of authenticity. Also have a toasty, but original schematic folded in an envelope inside the machine.

The Hawaiian Beauty is a double-award game, which allows the player to put in an additional coin at the start to double the number of replays. Other games, such as the Dragonette and Daisy May, also have this feature which, when active, can really pile on the number of replays on a hot game.

As with all my games that are under service contract with Pinrescue, a shout out to Russ for his assistance with them, and for hosting the videos that I make of the games.

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#420 4 years ago

That is a heck of a game room - all those beautiful woodrails. WOW

The artwork on the cabinets and backglasses, playfields is so great. Those are so wonderful condition !

#421 4 years ago

Very nice!

I hope one day to own this title

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#422 4 years ago

Here’s some pix and a video of the 1953 Gottlieb Grand Slam Grand Slam that recently came out of the shop. It’s a title that’s been on my short list for awhile and I was pleased to find a nice example, with original bumper caps/paint, schematic, etc.

Like all new games that enter the line up, they need to first be taken through a shopping and detail - new rubbers, lamps, and a complete inspection to make sure all cylinders are firing. As always, my thanks to Pinrescue for their assistance in going through the game and tweaking accordingly. I also want to give a shout out to Kevin paintpins (Preservation Pinball and Paint) for his assistance in re-painting/fixing the coin door and for the selective touchups on the cabinet and playfield.

This is a great player and there are several different ways to win replays. You can win on high scores, number of runs, and rollover specials. There is an upper rollover special that lights when there is more than one runner on base. The sequence special is activated if you can put out 1-9 (you’ll get a game), then the various numbered bumpers and rollovers will randomly light for a special.

I prepared a video to show game play. You’ll note on the last balls that a plunger shot took out the #1 bumper for a replay, and later on, rolling over the #3 awarded a game. Hard to hear a knock in the video, but that rewarding sound is there.

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#423 4 years ago

This Williams 21" was picked up from the beautiful state of Minnesota (DF has this one singing Maybe my new favorite back glass.

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#424 4 years ago

You know it's too bad that some of these old beauties have to be squeezed in somewhere.

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#425 4 years ago

Anybody have a spare Williams door for a 1952 Paratrooper they want to part with?
Heck any door that fits will do, Thanks!
ed

#426 4 years ago

I'm also looking for a 1957 Williams front door. Thank You!

#427 4 years ago

Mermaid and six other (not all listed) woodrails for sale over on Pinball Owners

Game: Gottlieb ROTO POOL
Seller: winbot (http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot)
Pictures: http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot#148023
Location: Kamloops, Canada
Notes: Really nice playfield $1300USD

Game: Gottlieb ROCKET SHIP
Seller: winbot (http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot)
Pictures: http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot#12037
Location: Kamloops, Canada
Notes: $2250 USD

Game: Gottlieb MINSTREL MAN
Seller: winbot (http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot)
Location: Kamloops, Canada
Notes: $2100 USD

Game: Gottlieb MERMAID
Seller: winbot (http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot)
Pictures: http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot#92195
Location: Kamloops, Canada
Notes: I would consider selling this. 16250USD I would prefer to sell all my woodrails in a package, 7 Woodrails 25000USD

Game: Gottlieb BANK-A-BALL
Seller: winbot (http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot)
Pictures: http://www.pinballowners.com/winbot#12038
Location: Kamloops, Canada
Notes: 1950 turret woodrail. The best game ever 3950 USD

#428 4 years ago

I have a few woodrails including a 1956 4 Player Williams "Fun House" which is listed having
good value and has a high ranking on the database, but thinking maybe it got somewhat confused
with the 1990 Williams Funhouse. It has a chunk out of one of the backglasses corners, but the
rest is nice. If it is a good player, maybe something to put time in..
I'm mainly metal rail, but the Rocket Ship's nice enough to someday have set up, but for now
the cabs. still wrapped..

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#429 4 years ago

any one ever see a woodrail cabinet like this one? thinking Cinderella was transplanted. looks like 2 pieces of glass
i have come across a small stash of original woodrails, most are complete but have some pf parts missing
not a lot of info as of yet

and any opinions on 54 daffy derby, 53 times square 54 big ben.

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#430 4 years ago

Looks like a "Wisconsin roll down" type cabinet. Plunger removed for anti-gambling laws in some states. What's the front look like? Does it have a little cup that catches the ball?

#431 4 years ago

that is the only picture i have.

#432 4 years ago

https://www.troostwijkauctions.com/uk/nostalgic-gaming-machines/01-23980/4/ I think you guys missed a great auction in Holland last week

#433 4 years ago

An amazing array of machines & other gear. Do you have any info on the origin of the apparent collection?

#434 4 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

I have a few woodrails including a 1956 4 Player Williams "Fun House" , maybe something to put time in..

I'd put some time into it. Kinda been looking for one of those for some time.

#435 4 years ago

Forget the woodrails in that auction. The EM arcade and miscellaneous coin op games are to die for.

#436 4 years ago
Quoted from ZNET:

The EM arcade and miscellaneous coin op games are to die for.

Agreed! What a fantastic collection! There are even some bingos in there, fully restored, one of which is fairly rare (Beach Beauty). The Keeney Super Jumbo is also a very nice example, and the Mutoscope boxing game... My gosh.

...and that Evans Horse race game
...and a Midget Skee-ball...

*gasp*

#437 4 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

any one ever see a woodrail cabinet like this one? thinking Cinderella was transplanted. looks like 2 pieces of glass

Isnt that the thing where you have to roll the ball up into the playfield rather than shoot it for some dumb ass state gambling law?

--Jeff

--edit. i see Alex beat me to the punch

#438 4 years ago

Yep, it's sort of interesting from a historical perspective but seems like a hinderance/obstruction from a playing perspective.

#439 4 years ago

All those poor stolen pinballs, then

#440 4 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

An amazing array of machines & other gear. Do you have any info on the origin of the apparent collection?

I dont know, i think it was some sort of....arcade/museum that closed down?

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#441 4 years ago

Here is a sad Snafu for sale: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-oeuvre-d-art/ville-de-montreal/pinball-antique-williams-1955/1256719726

It doesn't look TOO terrible except someone has hacked off the front of the cabinet so they could fit standard pinball legs, and the original wood legs that afix to the side are gone. That would be a lot of work to fix....someone was parting out a Snafu here, wonder if they still have the legs (or hell, the cab!).

#442 4 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

Here is a sad Snafu for sale: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-oeuvre-d-art/ville-de-montreal/pinball-antique-williams-1955/1256719726
It doesn't look TOO terrible except someone has hacked off the front of the cabinet so they could fit standard pinball legs, and the original wood legs that afix to the side are gone. That would be a lot of work to fix....someone was parting out a Snafu here, wonder if they still have the legs (or hell, the cab!).

Looks like a decent gameplay layout with goals though. Diggin' the art/theme. Worth the resto to play, imho.

Tempting if it were closer to me, darnit.

#443 4 years ago
Quoted from OTTOgd:

Looks like a decent gameplay layout with goals though. Diggin' the art/theme. Worth the resto to play, imho.
Tempting if it were closer to me, darnit.

Someone from maaca.org might be able to grab it. I figure you could biscuit the tapered front back on, making new legs might not be too bad. At least it has the original paint (maybe), here's another one: http://www.kijiji.ca/v-video-games-consoles-other/ouest-de-lile-qc/pinball-machine/1256916432?null painted black, ugh!

Galaxian was parting out a Snafu a while back -- I actually bought the coin door off him for my Williams Spitfire. Wonder if he has the legs.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-1955-williams-snafu-woodrail-parts

#444 4 years ago

Wow, that auction is stunning. Sure, we just happen to have 2 wonderfully restored Ten Strike bowlers right next to each other!

The Genco Springtime is new to me. Love the backbox bagatelle!
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My jaw is on the ground. Maybe I'm missing it, but I'm shocking to not see both Rockola World Series games there!

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Whoever this is, they have some class.

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Genco's Hi-Fly is the first pitch-n-bat I've seen where the ball is dropped.
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Ahhh another backbox bagatelle!
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#445 4 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

Wow, that auction is stunning. Sure, we just happen to have 2 wonderfully restored Ten Strike bowlers right next to each other!
The Genco Springtime is new to me. Love the backbox bagatelle!
!

The Genco Springtime is one of my favorite early woodrails. Pretty risque for 1952 with a pretty girl hiking up her dress. Nice multi color cabinet.
Interesting is that the playfield objective is to try and keep advancing marbles up the elevator to the trough and then allow the pinball to drain through the center which releases the balls into the bagatelle. Lots of luck to get a ball in all 12 lanes. But, if you do, you'll win 20 games. If you get 1-7 lanes, you'll get a replay, but not as easy it seems. The undropped balls in the trough carryover to the next game, so a player may be lucky to walk up to the game with a loaded trough and have a better chance at making some replays.

I made a video of mine from a few years ago: https://vimeo.com/116675853

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#446 4 years ago

Here's some pix and a video of the 1954 Gottlieb Jockey Club. Interesting is that in 1954 only, Gottlieb made a few games with a Double Award - This allowed the player to put in an additional coin at the game start to double the number of any replays won. I have a Daisy May and Hawaiian Beauty with this feature, too, which I routinely activate when playing. In a home environment, might as well hear twice the pops when winning.
First pictures show game basically as found. Cleaned up beautifully and needed the usual tweaking and shopping of a new game. Nice original glass, playfield and cabinet. Glass has a few blemishes in the upper right corner, but doesn't beg for a replacement, which isn't available, anyway. Pretty clean inside, and has an original schematic taped to the back box door.

As I like to do, I occasionally make a video of game play and host it on the Pinrescue site. All my games are under service contract with Russ and always thankful for his technical help. The video is intended to show game play and not an advertisement.

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#447 4 years ago
Quoted from oldcarz:

Interesting is that in 1954 only, Gottlieb made a few games with a Double Award -

Those are nice looking woodrails set up there. Also nice to see these older machines still being enjoyed..
"Minors not permitted to play this game", is that because of the Double Award?
I have a few woodrails, and don't remember seeing that phrase.. (T)

#448 4 years ago
Quoted from oldcarz:

Here's some pix and a video of the 1954 Gottlieb Jockey Club. Interesting is that in 1954 only, Gottlieb made a few games with a Double Award - This allowed the player to put in an additional coin at the game start to double the number of any replays won. I have a Daisy May and Hawaiian Beauty with this feature, too, which I routinely activate when playing. In a home environment, might as well hear twice the pops when winning.
First pictures show game basically as found. Cleaned up beautifully and needed the usual tweaking and shopping of a new game. Nice original glass, playfield and cabinet. Glass has a few blemishes in the upper right corner, but doesn't beg for a replacement, which isn't available, anyway. Pretty clean inside, and has an original schematic taped to the back box door.
As I like to do, I occasionally make a video of game play and host it on the Pinrescue site. All my games are under service contract with Russ and always thankful for his technical help. The video is intended to show game play and not an advertisement.
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Stunning game Great pick up.

Always wanted to see this title up and running.

Place your bets!

These woodrails are just so beautiful - another era, another time.

And the Double games were when Gottlieb really got close to 'gambling devices' so only a handful of games got away with this feature.

#449 4 years ago

Can you woodrail experts tell me the odds of finding a wooden lockdown bar for a 1958 Williams woodrail. I have it posted over on the em parts wanted ads too........

Looks like this one pictured on this game from the IPDB:

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#450 4 years ago

Ooh, you have a Williams wood rail now Hoov? The lockdown bars show up from time to time on Ebay if someone here doesn't have a spare.

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