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Woodrail Pinballs

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#301 5 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

i think he wants all 3 to look the same (restored)

Perhaps he liked the two for one shipping deal.

#302 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

Perhaps he liked the two for one shipping deal.

i am sure that doesn't hurt either

#303 5 years ago

Never hurts.

I still can't help but wonder what happened to those monkeys that got sent into space.

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#304 5 years ago

Ok, so i got info on that game, and i didnt really know where to post so ill try here. Does anyone have any info or a value on a 1939 gottlieb keen-a-ball? Never heard of it before and cant find much info on it. I guess it still works too!

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#305 5 years ago

Wonder why Gottlieb never used this figure of 8 layout with flippers? Love the flow of the silver ball

Never owned a flipperless game but if I ever did, this one would be it. Condition is amazing.

ebay.com link: Gottlieb 51 Watch My Line pinball machine Pinball Girl found another Rare game

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#306 5 years ago

Here's a bump for this topic. I have a line from a friend on a pretty nice condition woodrail for a price I would be happy with, and I think I would like to own it.

However aside from the money not being ready and waiting on that, I am not fully on-board yet because it's such a drastic change from the general mood of my gameroom. Woodrails are not my taste, but at the same time I kind of want one if the price is good. (which it is) However I don't think I would be happy putting one next to my other single player games, I feel personally that it may take away from the overall feel of the gameroom. I have successfully incorporated 1980's games in with my EM games (and they now reside is separate "sections" almost) but I feel the jump from woodrail to 60's EM is much larger than the jump from 70's EM to solid state. Perhaps if I owned more of the early 60's Roy Parker Gottlieb stuff it would mesh more easily, but most of the games are from the end of the decade with an art style of others that I feel represents more of a modern touch that still looks great today while still being obviously vintage, while the older stuff truly shows it's age more... you can tell it's pretty old just by the art and wouldn't fly as easily today. (In my opinion!)

I am a very very very open minded collector (I'm a big-time EM collector at only 18 years old and loving it!) and would love to have one or two, I'm just not feeling the mix necessarily.

Collectors who own both, how did you incorporate them into your gameroom? Just throw them on in? I'm probably just wanting to see some cool pictures too.

I won't say the name of the game right now, but I've also had Gottlieb Harbor Lites in my head for quite a while after seeing one here somewhere quite a while ago. I just love the theme, no other machine seems to have that cool "overcast"-ness about it.

Other than this one and maybe a Harbor Lites one day I think that would be it on my woodrail collecting, but I'm trying to figure out where to fit them in. I have a pretty roomy closet next to the room my arcade machines are in, almost tempted to clear it out and wire up an outlet (two plugs on it of course, one for each) and put some cool art of the time period in it, on the walls. Keeps them nice and separate while still getting to own and enjoy them.

[Picture of second game mentioned, from IPDB]

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#307 5 years ago

I am a big woodrail fan even though I only played my first one a couple of years ago. Started collecting 90's games.

Right now I do have a woodrail room but one overflowed into a room that has a 2015 game, 1997, 1991, 1978 and a 1958 woodrail! This room has the biggest rotation of all era games. It used to have just wedgeheads in it which did look nice. Probably change it round again soon. It wasn't meant to have a woodrail in it

Generally the pre 1955 Gottliebs are the most collectible due to rulesets/art etc etc.

Harbor Lites - never owned. Love the art. Heard it is a fun player and can win 6 specials i.e jackpot of 6.

There are no rules, so just do what takes your fancy

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#308 5 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Man, that's sad. Do his friends call him "wingnut"?

I hate to be this dark... but... all of his friends are likely already dead.

#309 5 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

I am a big woodrail fan even though I only played my first one a couple of years ago. Started collecting 90's games.
Right now I do have a woodrail room but one overflowed into a room that has a 2015 game, 1997, 1991, 1978 and a 1958 woodrail! This room has the biggest rotation of all era games. It used to have just wedgeheads in it which did look nice. Probably change it round again soon. It wasn't meant to have a woodrail in it
Generally the pre 1955 Gottliebs are the most collectible due to rulesets/art etc etc.
Harbor Lites - never owned. Love the art. Heard it is a fun player and can win 6 specials i.e jackpot of 6.
There are no rules, so just do what takes your fancy

Very awesome. My eyes still jumped first in awe at the Hit The Deck, and I doubt that part will EVER change!

I think I am going to jump on it and just figure out where to put it later, maybe my closet idea will take off. Or maybe I'll find a corner for it in the gameroom and see how well it blends in. It'd be going next to a '62 Williams Vagabond so it's not too far off, that one is pretty "old" looking too. It's too nice to pass up even if woodrails aren't my favorite, I'll post details later if I go and grab it today or tomorrow. Identity crisis!

#310 5 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Collectors who own both, how did you incorporate them into your gameroom? Just throw them on in? I'm probably just wanting to see some cool pictures too.

We just put them in a small row on a different wall.

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#311 5 years ago

Pulled the trigger! Was still a bit reluctant at first since I really don't want to mix them as I'm very picky about the feel of my pinball room but I checked out the closet and it will fit with space to play. This is right in the same general vicinity as my garage (arcade) and the stairs to my basement (actually right in between) and all other pinball-party spots, so it will be great for parties! I love how great my house is for this kind of thing, kind of got lucky with that. Everything is really central while still being different rooms. Feeling pretty good about it having it's own little room with room to spare for 1 more (Harbor Lites?) in the future if I wish! As stated, Woodrails are not my thing but I'm already itching to play it. I always have quite a bit of fun playing them at the Silverball Museum or at shows, usually less involved/repeated plays than the later machines, but still good hard EM fun. It's hard to explain my relationship with these things, haha! Usually it's a "once and done" per trip but during that game I do have a lot of fun. Maybe I'll learn to love it a little more once I learn a game a little better and what to shoot for.

A very nice 1955 Gottlieb Southern Belle (1,000 produced, little to no threads linked on Pinside):

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#312 5 years ago

Oh, and of course it NEEDS plastics and luckily Shay reproduced them and has them for sale currently! I just need to save up the money to buy a set. Hopefully eventually.

#313 5 years ago
Quoted from Otaku:

Oh, and of course it NEEDS plastics and luckily Shay reproduced them and has them for sale currently! I just need to save up the money to buy a set. Hopefully eventually.

Nice pick up.

Never played this game.

Love the old operator stickers on the game - don't remove them!

All woodrails need a good going through but when tuned they play as fast as any other em - usually.

Will keep you busy over the Winter for sure

#314 5 years ago

V nice condition, Otaku. I think you'll like it.

#315 5 years ago

On a side note..I was thinking Sittin' Pretty must be the 'King' of clown games.
20 (twenty) clowns represented on the bg-pf-apron. Everybody likes clowns, amirite?

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#316 5 years ago

Pretty nice looking game, paint on the cabinet looks great! I love your passion for these old machines at 18 years old -- I wish my son was interested in something other than video games!

If you have Paypal, PM me your address and I am going to kick in $20 for your plastics set!

#317 5 years ago

***** On a side note..I was thinking Sittin' Pretty must be the 'King' of clown games.
20 (twenty) clowns represented on the bg-pf-apron. Everybody likes clowns, amirite? *****************

****** She's a beauty **********

#318 5 years ago

Always hated clowns... first and only circus I took my son to when he was a small lad... he hated the clowns at the show, and now thinks they're just creepy... nonetheless that's a nice lookin' game ya got there!

#319 5 years ago

Thanks! The clowns aren't so prominent, but when I started counting them I thought it may be a 'record' for Gottlieb and their clowns. There are also two ladies Sittin pretty, for the record.

#320 5 years ago

That game is so brutal, I felt like a clown when I played it.

#321 5 years ago

******** Since this a general " Woodie" topic ******
I'm getting a 'sister pin' to "Sitting Pretty"......... "Sunshine"@ 1958
Where can I get a stencil for it ?

#322 5 years ago

It works! The ball trough was just jammed up, I'll have to look at it closer as it isn't fully unjammed. I was able to play on it a little, the plastics make the balls get stuck but so far looks like everything else works!

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#323 5 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

Pretty nice looking game, paint on the cabinet looks great! I love your passion for these old machines at 18 years old -- I wish my son was interested in something other than video games!
If you have Paypal, PM me your address and I am going to kick in $20 for your plastics set!

Wow, thank you so much! It really helps out a lot, I am on a very tight budget! All of these machines come to me at great deal prices thankfully, I know how to seek them out. Some people seek out stellar deals or project machines to save money, but for me it's a necessity if I want to get new machines. Much more fun and rewarding, too! So every dollar helps and I will set that aside for these plastics, and I'm sure they will look great on it. Thanks again so much!

Steven

(I didn't get it yet, but maybe it's just PayPal being slow. I'll let you know if it gets here)

#324 5 years ago
Quoted from JKnPA:

******** Since this a general " Woodie" topic ******
I'm getting a 'sister pin' to "Sitting Pretty"......... "Sunshine"@ 1958
Where can I get a stencil for it ?

I have sunshine if you want to drive to Central Jersey to trace it.

#325 5 years ago
Quoted from AlexF:

That game is so brutal, I felt like a clown when I played it.

One of the very toughest games to beat for sure!

#326 5 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

One of the very toughest games to beat for sure!

Those upper side rollover lanes are the key to scoring. They are tucked-in up there, but you have to get at least one to light the 100k pops.

Alex, I seem to remember I may not have had the whole 'rule set' down when you came thru, and I think I gave some bad playing advice. You'll have to come back again and give it another whirl.

#327 5 years ago
Quoted from presqueisle:

Alex, I seem to remember I may not have had the whole 'rule set' down when you came thru, and I think I gave some bad playing advice. You'll have to come back again and give it another whirl.

Well, to be fair I'm not a great player anyway. Especially on a new game in a social environment. I can get pretty good if I can play alone continuously in my basement though. I still get the impression Sittin' Pretty is a relentless butt kicker. It's nice to have a few of those in a collection. Plus it looks fantastic.

#328 5 years ago

Love the thread, and seeing games I have never seen before!

Wood rails were mostly all gone by the early 60s in the wild.

So, Im thinking, Who were the young people playing these in say 1955 as an average?

Pre Rock and Roll, so it wasnt really Fonzie and Happy Days.

I mean its 60 years old, so if one was playing these in their 20's, they are now past 80.

Do we have any Pinsiders over 80?

Where were these games? A couple in a bar? Corner Soda Shop?, Not in NY, when I asked my father years ago....he didnt remember seeing any in Brooklyn.

Gotta imagine the thrill we all see on the board, for a New Stern, JJP, etc.
As we are collectors, but did a bunch of guys get excited and hang at a bar, because a new Woodrail came on location?

#329 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Love the thread, and seeing games I have never seen before!
Wood rails were mostly all gone by the early 60s in the wild.
So, Im thinking, Who were the young people playing these in say 1955 as an average?
Pre Rock and Roll, so it wasnt really Fonzie and Happy Days.
I mean its 60 years old, so if one was playing these in their 20's, they are now past 80.
Do we have any Pinsiders over 80?
Where were these games? A couple in a bar? Corner Soda Shop?, Not in NY, when I asked my father years ago....he didnt remember seeing any in Brooklyn.
Gotta imagine the thrill we all see on the board, for a New Stern, JJP, etc.
As we are collectors, but did a bunch of guys get excited and hang at a bar, because a new Woodrail came on location?

They were illegal in New York for 30 years.

#330 5 years ago

How about Gondolier? Might be looking at one that doesn't work.

#331 5 years ago

Looks like a good one! Upper pf looks neat, love the four flippers. Never seen/played one before though.

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#332 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Love the thread, and seeing games I have never seen before!
Wood rails were mostly all gone by the early 60s in the wild.
So, Im thinking, Who were the young people playing these in say 1955 as an average?
Pre Rock and Roll, so it wasnt really Fonzie and Happy Days.
I mean its 60 years old, so if one was playing these in their 20's, they are now past 80.
Do we have any Pinsiders over 80?
Where were these games? A couple in a bar? Corner Soda Shop?, Not in NY, when I asked my father years ago....he didnt remember seeing any in Brooklyn.
Gotta imagine the thrill we all see on the board, for a New Stern, JJP, etc.
As we are collectors, but did a bunch of guys get excited and hang at a bar, because a new Woodrail came on location?

Hi, I'm not the oldest pinsider, but at 64, I have a long history with the hobby. Growing up in the 50's and 60's, we had pinball machines in the house, thanks to availability and guidance from my grandfather who was an operator. In the 60's I worked in an arcade where there were mostly games of that era (Kings and Queens, North Star, River Boat, etc.) but played plenty of woodrails and preflipper games over the years at the Jersey Shore and other venues. In the last 10 years, I traded out most of my EMs and solid state games in favor of the woodrails. And now that I am mostly woodrails, with a few favorite EMs, I still change up the line up once in awhile.

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#334 5 years ago

I have only one wood rail in my game room. It's a 1948 United "Wisconsin" with a very unusual ball feed.

To play the game, you coin-up and the balls load a conventional trough, but instead of the common ball launch rod, it has a lever that pushes the ball outside of the machine, where the player picks up the ball and rolls it across the playfield glass. It then drops into the playfield, and into play.

The machine has flippers, but from all intents and purposes, it might just as well have none. The flippers are near the top of the playfield, flip, but don't really do anything.

Anyway, this machine is way out of place in my room and I'm going to list it on the forum for sale. I have no idea what it's worth, but can't be too much as the fun factor isn't there. Any comments or suggestions, I'm all ears...

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#335 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Love the thread, and seeing games I have never seen before!
Wood rails were mostly all gone by the early 60s in the wild.
So, Im thinking, Who were the young people playing these in say 1955 as an average?
Pre Rock and Roll, so it wasnt really Fonzie and Happy Days.
I mean its 60 years old, so if one was playing these in their 20's, they are now past 80.
Do we have any Pinsiders over 80?
Where were these games? A couple in a bar? Corner Soda Shop?, Not in NY, when I asked my father years ago....he didnt remember seeing any in Brooklyn.
Gotta imagine the thrill we all see on the board, for a New Stern, JJP, etc.
As we are collectors, but did a bunch of guys get excited and hang at a bar, because a new Woodrail came on location?

There were lots of games at arcades on the board walk in NJ.

#336 5 years ago
Quoted from oldcarz:

Hi, I'm not the oldest pinsider, but at 64, I have a long history with the hobby. Growing up in the 50's and 60's, we had pinball machines in the house, thanks to availability and guidance from my grandfather who was an operator. In the 60's I worked in an arcade where there were mostly games of that era (Kings and Queens, North Star, River Boat, etc.) but played plenty of woodrails and preflipper games over the years at the Jersey Shore and other venues. In the last 10 years, I traded out most of my EMs and solid state games in favor of the woodrails. And now that I am mostly woodrails, with a few favorite EMs, I still change up the line up once in awhile.

Quoted from poppapin:

There were lots of games at arcades on the board walk in NJ.

A truly stunning collection Assembled!

Thank you for sharing!

So indulge me for a moment.

I first played at the age of 5, at the Boardwalk on Rockaway Beach.
No pins, so only Bingo games.
By 1967, Pins were to be found in Candy Stores, Beach Clubs, & shortly the larger arcades.

I completely missed the woodrail scene.

I started owning around 1973, but no woodrails, and I ended up specializing in 1932-1936 era.

Fast Forward....last year......

Whoa Nellie came home, and I played a nice selection of woodrails last year at Pintastic, and discovered I completely missed something here!

So with all the joy of whats new to the scene at Expo, I am just as excited to see pictures like those shared
in this thread, because its all new to me!

Now, Im not putting LEDs in this quite yet, but I do enjoy the extra bounce of Titan Silicone on these,
and the strategy of play, the joy of the bells...( I only had chimes), Ive got a whole different area of Pinball Heaven to explore in my retirement..(OK, still working a little, gotta pay for all the shows to go to! ).

I did get to the Jersey shore in the 60's, but what you are saying is in the 50's the boardwalk was lined up with Woodrails!?! Wonderful, and Amazing! Wish I was there!

Where else were 1950's games at?

#337 5 years ago

Any idea of some of the bingo titles? I've got some nice woodrail bingos.

#338 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I still can't help but wonder what happened to those monkeys that got sent into space.

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#339 5 years ago
Quoted from bingopodcast:

Any idea of some of the bingo titles? I've got some nice woodrail bingos.

Not at all, I was 5 and 6 years old, and all I remember is rolling the balls, and an operator giving us tickets.

The big prizes for kids....rubber balls, Chinese finger traps, plastic change holder mouth, and punk sticks.
No Candy until a few years later.
I got punks, and a zippo, and started my career in Piro and fireworks! Thanks Pinball!

#340 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

all I remember is rolling the balls, and an operator giving us tickets.

That's excellent. Thanks!

#341 5 years ago

O-din, you tease! Is there any video of gameplay on this? Stunning Game!! Drooool.......

#342 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Is there any video of gameplay on this? Stunning Game!! Drooool.......

I don't have a video recorder, just a piss poor camera and no you-tube account or I would probably have videos of them all. However a friend might be stopping by with his super video setup this weekend and if he does, I'll make sure we get this one on there.

You really havn't played a woodrail until you've fired up one of these 50 volt Williams gems. They are powerful and they do play fast. Make a heck of a lot of noise too.

#343 5 years ago
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:

Love the thread, and seeing games I have never seen before!
Wood rails were mostly all gone by the early 60s in the wild.
So, Im thinking, Who were the young people playing these in say 1955 as an average?
Pre Rock and Roll, so it wasnt really Fonzie and Happy Days.
I mean its 60 years old, so if one was playing these in their 20's, they are now past 80.
Do we have any Pinsiders over 80?
Where were these games? A couple in a bar? Corner Soda Shop?, Not in NY, when I asked my father years ago....he didnt remember seeing any in Brooklyn.
Gotta imagine the thrill we all see on the board, for a New Stern, JJP, etc.
As we are collectors, but did a bunch of guys get excited and hang at a bar, because a new Woodrail came on location?

Well, Elvis was a player.

Playing Diamond Lill which has one of the nicest EM lightshows of any game out there. Tough game, shooting the loops. It was the Theatre of Magic of the 50's!

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#344 5 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Playing Diamond Lill which has one of the nicest EM lightshows of any game out there. Tough game, shooting the loops. It was the Theatre of Magic of the 50's!

I had to pass on an opportunity to own a nice Diamond Lill. I enjoyed playing it a few times, but the loop seemed more of a novelty and once the ball got inside with the lit pop bumper, I could just walk away while it cranked up points and credits. Maybe it was how it was set up, but I found better players to choose from.

I'd play it again though, given the opportunity.

#345 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I had to pass on an opportunity to own a nice Diamond Lill. I enjoyed playing it a few times, but the loop seemed more of a novelty and once the ball got inside with the lit pop bumper, I could just walk away while it cranked up points and credits. Maybe it was how it was set up, but I found better players to choose from.
I'd play it again though, given the opportunity.

Amazing how each game is different and how set up makes all the difference. Mine is super hard to win a replay. Wish it were easier!

#346 5 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Amazing how each game is different and how set up makes all the difference. Mine is super hard to win a replay. Wish it were easier!

Setup makes all the difference and I did consider going back and getting it.

I'm still trying to find that one Gottlieb that outplays Frontiersman, and that's a tall task. There aren't many machines here that get as much play as Frontiersman. I guess I should be satisfied with that.

#347 5 years ago

When I interviewed Gordon Hasse, he said his favorite was Frontiersman, and the game that kept pulling him back. You might have a very tall task!

#348 5 years ago
Quoted from bingopodcast:

When I interviewed Gordon Hasse, he said his favorite was Frontiersman, and the game that kept pulling him back. You might have a very tall task!

I've had a chance to play as many as I can now, but it's kind of funny looking back as I had never played Frontiersman before I got it, but liked the look and layout from the pictures so it was very high on my short list of woodrails to buy.

It hasn't disappointed either and is actually a better player than I thought. It's the whole package all in one machine. Great art, many ways to win, but most of all a near perfect layout to play.

Without playability, they are just eye candy. And I don't have the the room or money for that. Although it would be nice.

#349 5 years ago
Quoted from o-din:

I've had a chance to play as many as I can now, but it's kind of funny looking back as I had never played Frontiersman before I got it, but liked the look and layout from the pictures so it was very high on my short list of woodrails to buy.
It hasn't disappointed either and is actually a better player than I thought. It's the whole package all in one machine. Great art, many ways to win, but most of all a near perfect layout to play.
Without playability, they are just eye candy. And I don't have the the room or money for that. Although it would be nice.

Agree, in that playability comes before anything else. Condition next.

#350 5 years ago

Some playability grows on you, some are great right off the bat. So it can be hard to tell which to buy, or which to keep unless you give them enough time.

I've put a few games up for sale in the past that didn't sell right away, and later I'm glad they didn't. But I'm not thinking of too many I did sell that I would want back. I guess there are enough choices to please everybody's tastes.

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