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Woodrail Pinballs


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#651 5 months ago
Quoted from tomcons:

My favorite restoration, from a couple of years back - a '52 Gottlieb Happy Days, a real favorite when I was a kid. It apparently sat for years derelict in a shed in Mississippi with a bunch of other woodrails when the Coinopwarehouse folks found it.

No playfield glass, so the playfield was a total mess - scratched, filthy and worn, the rubbers all melted onto the surface, and the plastics completely toasted. Luckily the unique playfield inserts and most of the bumper caps were still there.
Relays and other parts had been cannibalized, some coils were fried, plus a hard-to-find mis-wire that took a friend & I many hours to sort out.

Playfield cleaning underway.

As would have been expected, the backglass was in bad shape as well.

On the other hand, the cabinet was in excellent condition.

After lots of touchups to the playfield and new plastics. And a new backglass from Shay Arcade Group. Turned out pretty good.

Turned out great, Tom! Kudos to you for rescuing another classic.
But, what happened to the other games in that shed? I see a "Frontiersman" and a "Lady Luck" in there!

#652 5 months ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

Turned out great, Tom! Kudos to you for rescuing another classic.
But, what happened to the other games in that shed? I see a "Frontiersman" and a "Lady Luck" in there!

From what I recall, Coinopwarehouse had around 30-40 woodrails and a couple of bingos & other arcade games from that shed on the floor at their old place in Gaithersburg. The games were in pretty bad shape overall but there were some nice ones. At the time, I was really only interested in the Happy Days. Wish I had a do-over for that...

What happened to the rest, I don't know.

Here's a couple more pics of the shed contents:
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This pic is on their loading dock when they were unloading. The Happy Days is on the left, beside the Jalopy.
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#653 5 months ago
Quoted from tomcons:

rubbers all melted onto the surface

Looks great. It's worth putting a lot of work into the restoration if the game has sentimental value like yours does.

Were the rubbers hardened and stuck to the playfield? If so what did you use to soften or clean them off?

#654 5 months ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Were the rubbers hardened and stuck to the playfield? If so what did you use to soften or clean them off?

Yeah, rubber had gone pretty much solid. And glued to the playfield. I tried a lot of things, but best result was with iso alcohol, which loosened some of it. But most of it had to be chipped away and that took the ink with it. It was a mess.

#655 5 months ago
Quoted from tomcons:

Yeah, rubber had gone pretty much solid. And glued to the playfield. I tried a lot of things, but best result was with iso alcohol, which loosened some of it. But most of it had to be chipped away and that took the ink with it. It was a mess.

That's what I'm facing. I'm planning to try warming them with a hair dryer and using plastic razor blades.

#656 5 months ago

Earlier this year I worked on a Chicago Coin Fox Hunt with big pools of rubber bonded to the playfield. I had to use a steady hand and a sharp xacto knife to get it off.

#657 5 months ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

That's what I'm facing. I'm planning to try warming them with a hair dryer and using plastic razor blades.

I tried heating it but not much success. Next time I might try cooling it with electronics duster can, maybe that will shrink it a bit. Otherwise it will be iso + exacto again.

#658 5 months ago

I picked up this Gottlieb queen of diamonds. I'm thinking of selling. Backglass has some flaking, cabinet kind of rough. I cant find any previous sales on this site. How do I know where to start pricing? It was just shopped and works fine.

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#659 5 months ago

The 2017 Mr. Pinball price guide has it at $1000.
Subtract a few bucks for the backglass and keep your fingers crossed.
It isn't an easy one to sell.
GLWTS,
Walt

#660 5 months ago

I think that's a bit high. It's a fairly common woodrail title, not a terribly good player, and considering it's condition and the going rate for woodrails lately, I'd say it's worth about $650 on the high side.

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#661 4 months ago

1953 Gottlieb Flying High. Photographed 2 of the leg adjusters that are on my pin. Can they be identified? The one on the left has a patent number which is unreadable, only can read "Patent ____ _5999". The one on the right has no script.

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#662 4 months ago
Quoted from Darcy:

1953 Gottlieb Flying High. Photographed 2 of the leg adjusters that are on my pin. Can they be identified? The one on the left has a patent number which is unreadable, only can read "Patent ___ 5999". The one on the right has no script.
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I've never seen the type pictured on the left. I have several of the type on the right.

#663 4 months ago

Thinking, that the one on the left is from some kind of furniture, or a hardware store replacement.

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#664 82 days ago

Here is another 1953 Flying High question.

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The 2 upper Blue and White Passive Bumpers, do they use a different bulb? The 47's are to tall. Is it possible that the white body has shrunk/melted, as it appears these 2 bulbs stay on all the time.

#665 82 days ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Here is another 1953 Flying High question.
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The 2 upper Blue and White Passive Bumpers, do they use a different bulb? The 47's are to tall. Is it possible that the white body has shrunk/melted, as it appears these 2 bulbs stay on all the time.

I don't know if they stay on all the time but buy a box of #51's They put out the perfect glow in the caps and I call them "shorty bulbs" Trust me they looked awesome in all my games especially Slick Chick.

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#666 81 days ago

This was my setup at the recent Vancouver Flipout, 6 woodrails plus a Zeke's Peak and a Bally Skill Roll.

There was quite a bit of interest in the games, unfortunately I wasn't able to spend as much time taliking with people about them as i would have liked.

Next year I hope to have a few more and run a woodrail tournament if i can get them all working perfectly.

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#667 81 days ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

I don't know if they stay on all the time but buy a box of #51's They put out the perfect glow in the caps and I call them "shorty bulbs" Trust me they looked awesome in all my games especially Slick Chick.

+1

#668 81 days ago

I came across this Dancing Dolls that is supposed to be a wood rail.
Guy I bought it from said it was some type of prototype that he purchased from a Gottlieb family member many years ago.
I dont know how true it is but it's in my garage now

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#669 81 days ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

I don't know if they stay on all the time but buy a box of #51's They put out the perfect glow in the caps and I call them "shorty bulbs" Trust me they looked awesome in all my games especially Slick Chick.

Thanks Dan, that solved the problem.

#670 80 days ago
Quoted from dgpinball:

This was my setup at the recent Vancouver Flipout, 6 woodrails plus a Zeke's Peak and a Bally Skill Roll.
There was quite a bit of interest in the games, unfortunately I wasn't able to spend as much time taliking with people about them as i would have liked.
Next year I hope to have a few more and run a woodrail tournament if i can get them all working perfectly.
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Wow, DGPinball! What a great line-up. SOOO cool of you to bring all these woodies for the public to enjoy. Wish I was closer. I would have spent a lot of time in that area. Haha! I've always wanted to play a Jack n' Jill. Never seen one in person yet.

#671 80 days ago
Quoted from Elevatorman:

I came across this Dancing Dolls that is supposed to be a wood rail.
Guy I bought it from said it was some type of prototype that he purchased from a Gottlieb family member many years ago.
I dont know how true it is but it's in my garage now
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You can compare your machine to the one on IPDB that is also supposedly a prototype:
https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=dancing+dolls&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick#5902

That cab is strange...I don't recognize it from any other GTB titles, although I could be not thinking of a few, and it doesn't appear to be a wedgehead, yet the cabinet and head pattern match. So the theory that someone threw this in a used cabinet from a later game seems less likely in this case. I've seen that type of thing alot...

#672 80 days ago
Quoted from dgpinball:

This was my setup at the recent Vancouver Flipout, 6 woodrails plus a Zeke's Peak and a Bally Skill Roll.

Can you please post pics of your skill roll? I love those.

#673 80 days ago
Quoted from Stoomer:

You can compare your machine to the one on IPDB that is also supposedly a prototype:
https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=dancing+dolls&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick#5902
That cab is strange...I don't recognize it from any other GTB titles, although I could be not thinking of a few, and it doesn't appear to be a wedgehead, yet the cabinet and head pattern match. So the theory that someone threw this in a used cabinet from a later game seems less likely in this case. I've seen that type of thing alot...

This has been discussed already here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-dancing-dolls-prototype#post-4573362

#674 76 days ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Thanks Dan, that solved the problem.

Anytime Glad I could help.

#675 75 days ago

For anybody who owns a classic woodrail or a Neyens game, this magazine is a must have.

Fantastic, detailed interview and tons of pictures. Weighs a ton!

http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=3749

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#677 73 days ago

Something you don't see often. A $100 Williams Reno woodrail for sale in Ohio on the closed FB group, "Pinball for Sale". (There's already interest in it from a local Ohio pinballer)

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#678 73 days ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Something you don't see often. A $100 Williams Reno woodrail for sale in Ohio on the closed FB group, "Pinball for Sale". (There's already interest in it from a local Ohio pinballer)[quoted image]

Bought a "Reno" about ten years ago out of a garage in southern NJ for $100. Mine was in better condition that this one.

#679 71 days ago

A fellow collector in USA sold this Nine Sisters game to me a couple of months ago. It needs restoration. I am looking forward to see the "Whirlygig" (ramp) in action! Even though this game has one flipper only, I think it will play pretty well. The backglass is bad, so I am making a new silkscreen backglass in my workshop.

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#680 71 days ago

that Nine Sisters machine looks so amazing! What a unique find.

#681 71 days ago
Quoted from cait001:

that Nine Sisters machine looks so amazing! What a unique find.

agreed. I always thought this was a fun looking game. Anyone in the USA have one for sale, please hit me up!

#682 71 days ago
Quoted from PinballPianist:

I am looking forward to see the "Whirlygig" (ramp) in action!

Yes, a ramp and a single flipper, can't wait to see it in action.

#683 70 days ago

I have played Nine Sisters at both Clay's VFW hall in Michigan
and Randy Peck's Pike's arcade in Long Beach
and it is a surprisingly fun playing and addictive pin.

#684 70 days ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

I have played Nine Sisters at both Clay's VFW hall in Michigan
and Randy Peck's Pike's arcade in Long Beach
and it is a surprisingly fun playing and addictive pin.

Ok nice! How strong was the flipper at those games? I think the flipper of my game is a bit too powerful, the ball jumps over the trap hole, all the way up the plastic shield. Did that happen too when you played the games at Clay's and Randy's?

#685 69 days ago
Quoted from PinballPianist:

Did that happen too when you played the games at Clay's and Randy's?

I do not recall any problems with the flipper being too strong. You may want to check your game to see if coil is original or modern replacement.

#686 66 days ago

Can you identify this Coin Door? Here is a hint, Pinside does not have it as a listed game.

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It was in the Flying High parts game I bought.

#687 65 days ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Can you identify this Coin Door? Here is a hint, Pinside does not have it as a listed game.
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It was in the Flying High parts game I bought.

I believe it's from Watch My Line. What a crazy playfield layout.

#688 65 days ago
Quoted from jsf24:

I believe it's from Watch My Line. What a crazy playfield layout.

Yes, that is the answer. It has a 1930's style figure 8 playfield. Can't be that many left. 1 Pinsider had or has 1.

#689 65 days ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Yes, that is the answer. It has a 1930's style figure 8 playfield. Can't be that many left. 1 Pinsider had or has 1.

I had a WML several years ago and sold it. Here's a few pix of it.
Joel

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#690 65 days ago

Score card image please.....

#691 65 days ago
Quoted from Inkochnito:

Score card image please.....

This is the best that I could find from the old pix... It looks like a fabricated card...

Joel

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#692 65 days ago
Quoted from Darcy:

Yes, that is the answer. It has a 1930's style figure 8 playfield. Can't be that many left. 1 Pinsider had or has 1.

I know of one that was for sale. Anyone interested please PM me and I will inquire if it's still available and pass your information along.

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#693 29 days ago

Eight months ago I picked up the Roto Pool, in a combo purchase. It was pretty roached out. I finally got around to going through it and getting it working. The cabinet paint had been sanded off before me. I don't have the talent to make stencils, so I decided to just stain it and keep it wood. I hope the purest owners don't hate on me for the stain! I actually like it better than the original paint scheme. New back glass, new plastics, new buttons and button guards, polished the chrome, painted the legs and coin door. Cleaned and fixed all the other issues. Plays great! Love it!

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#694 29 days ago

It doesn't look bad actually.

#695 29 days ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

It doesn't look bad actually.

And nice work on the restoration!

#696 28 days ago

After pictures of Roto Pool look great ! Very Nice job.

One day I'd like to have one really nice Woodrail.... I like keeping track of this thread and seeing all the nice games.

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#697 21 days ago

Thanks for the reach out from a fellow pinsider. Too bad you aren't closer....

#698 21 days ago
Quoted from nomo:

Eight months ago I picked up the Roto Pool, in a combo purchase. It was pretty roached out. I finally got around to going through it and getting it working. The cabinet paint had been sanded off before me. I don't have the talent to make stencils, so I decided to just stain it and keep it wood. I hope the purest owners don't hate on me for the stain! I actually like it better than the original paint scheme. New back glass, new plastics, new buttons and button guards, polished the chrome, painted the legs and coin door. Cleaned and fixed all the other issues. Plays great! Love it!
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Great job!

#699 21 days ago

I was given a 1959 Golden Bells by a friend a while ago. The art is down the the wood in some spots and knowing how much of a failure my attempt at touch ups were on a different game I decided to clean and the clear it instead.

I put new rings on it and it’s in the queue to get made functional. From memory, a relay locks on when it gets powered up and a few other things. Might need new springs on some steppers.

The saddest thing is the game came with the glass out of the head and between two pieces of cardboard. When we took it out and held it upright about 75% of the art slid right off. I took a few pictures of the glass of a nice example at TPF and plan on recreating the art for mine from that. Won’t be perfect, but will exist.

Lastly, the game came with the instruction card for “21” and after reading that I thought it was interesting. Saw some videos and a few months later one went up for sale about 150 miles away. They wanted a lot, like a lot a lot, and wouldn’t budge even though the cab art was gone and it wasn’t working. Maybe some day.

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#700 16 days ago

Such a shame what happened to the backglass and playfield. You can always touch up over the clear as long as the clear isn't too thick and easily clean up the paint and try different colors until they look good then seal the touch ups and clear again.

I'm guessing you've seen it but if not, Vid1900 has an ultimate playfield restoration guide here on Pinside.

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