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Woodrail Pinballs


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#601 1 year ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Just a little bit ago, I also took a couple pics for a fellow collector that had asked..

The small card looks like a ASC card.
http://www.pinballrebel.com/pinball/cards/Williams/Williams_ASC_Balls_per_Game_cards.zip

The instruction card is the same as the G-1A card from the previous posting.

Peter
www.inkochnito.nl

3 weeks later
#602 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

If anything this Kings needs me to get off the interwebs and finish restorin'.

Two years later...lol

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#603 1 year ago

Never knew this thread existed until now. Thought I'd post a picture of mine. Enjoy! ...I sure do.

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#604 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Never knew this thread existed until now. Thought I'd post a picture of mine. Enjoy!

OOOoooo
Genco Metro
Is it fully working?
Russ Jensen's favorite game.

#605 1 year ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Genco Metro
Is it fully working?

YES IT IS!!! ...and it's so darn fun. Did a podcast with Nick Baldridge last week...

http://foramusementonly.libsyn.com/episode-423

...in which we do an in-depth discussion about it (for his final installment of the "Year of Flipperless" segment) and I add some nuance and corrections to Russ Jensen's great write-up about it.

It's quite involved, multiple sequences, multiple ways to win replays, super-fun and incredibly addictive. I even caught my wife (who is notoriously uninterested in flipperless games) playing it of her own volition last night, trying to best my score.

If that's not a sales pitch for it, I don't know what is. Can't believe I found, and in such great shape. It's a recent addition to the line-up, just nabbed it last month, actually.

One of these days I'd like to shoot and edit a nice video about it, as I've not been able to find anything on YouTube. In the meantime, here are some glamour shots to drool over.

Unlit:
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Lit:
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Playfield Close-Ups:
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Backglass Close-Ups:
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Cabinet:
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Gawd! ...this game is gorgeous. *LOL*

#606 1 year ago

Figured I'd update the group...I have still have my Minstrel Man. Currently looking for $1200 for it.

#607 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Gawd! ...this game is gorgeous.

Too bad that someone possibly tried to pry the coin door open, but it gives the game character.
Also surprised that the biggest wear spot on the game is the place where you figure a flipperless pin might not have any;
at the place where flipper buttons might normally be located.
Your bottom five (bell) light covers, look to be pink, other games I have seen them being white.
though based on the paint circles underneath the covers, seems to be pink?

#608 1 year ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

Too bad that someone possibly tried to pry the coin door open, but it gives the game character.
Also surprised that the biggest wear spot on the game is the place where you figure a flipperless pin might not have any;
at the place where flipper buttons might normally be located.
Your bottom five (bell) light covers, look to be pink, other games I have seen them being white.
though bases on the paint underneath the covers seem to be pink.

not sure why you felt the need to pick the game apart.
Claytor nice Woodrail.

#609 1 year ago
Quoted from freddy:

not sure why you felt the need to pick the game apart.
Claytor nice Woodrail.

Gorgeous game

#610 1 year ago

610 posts and such beautiful woodrails. I'm enjoying them all.

#611 1 year ago
Quoted from freddy:

Claytor nice Woodrail.

Thanks, guys!

Quoted from pinwiztom:

surprised that the biggest wear spot on the game is the place where you figure a flipperless pin might not have any;
at the place where flipper buttons might normally be located.

Gotta grab that game somewhere to nudge it, right?

Quoted from pinwiztom:

Your bottom five (bell) light covers, look to be pink, other games I have seen them being white.

So, this is actually an interesting point (I think, anyway). The guy I bought it from worked for a mold and die company. His bottom five bumpers were a little toasty and busted, so he made a mold from one of the upper bumpers that was pristine, and MADE 5 more bumper bodies (since they're awfully hard to find). He colored the plastic peach/pink because that was the color of the base underneath...AND...you're not gonna believe this...it was also the color of the original caps. The original bell bumper caps matched the playfield/base color...just like all the rest of the bumpers do! Ha-ha!

I actually still have the original bumpers, marbled plastic and everything. The seller gave them to me with the sale of the game. The caps, while a bit faded, are most definitely that peach/pink color.

This is one of the points regarding Russ Jensen's write-up that I attempted to address in that podcast episode I mentioned above. My guess is that Russ' bumpers were either extraordinarily faded, or perhaps even nabbed from another game, like "Four Roses" or "Big Chief," the two games following "Metro" and the only other titles I can find that used those same type of bell bumpers.** ...and on further investigation, it would make sense for a couple reasons:

1) "Four Roses" and "Big Chief" each had white bell bumpers. Perhaps used out of necessity as the only available parted-out bell bumpers.

2) Russ Jensen also has a photo credit for "Big Chief" on IPDB, so it's not a stretch to think he may have pilfered some caps to complete his beloved "Metro."

Anyhow, those are some of my thoughts about the bumper cap situation. Admittedly, a can of worms not too many folks are likely to find of interest, but perhaps PinWizTom will find it interesting.

** "Band Wagon" and "Dude Ranch" used bell bumpers, too, but they are distinctively different shaped bells than M, 4R, and BC.

Also...

Quoted from PinballFever:

610 posts and such beautiful woodrails. I'm enjoying them all.

...completely agree!

Best,
Ryan

#612 1 year ago
Quoted from RyanClaytor:

Anyhow, those are some of my thoughts about the bumper cap situation. Admittedly, a can of worms not too many folks are likely to find of interest, but perhaps PinWizTom will find it interesting.

I find all that you have researched and other findings very interesting,
and tend to agree with your conclusions.
Also in no way did I want to disrespect or pick on your game's condition.
I found it to be in beautiful condition,
but was just pointing out the unusual wear near the "phantom flipper buttons".
Had not seen that a lot on flipperless pins before.
And since we know each other casually, I am sure you did not take it that way.

This game obviously had a special place in Russ Jensen's heart,
and when he passed, a group of us fellow collectors on the west coast that attended his memorial,
pooled together some funds to buy his Metro pin from the family and then donated it to the PPM,
in his memory.

#613 1 year ago

Heya Tom,

I figured that...

Quoted from pinwiztom:

in no way did I want to disrespect or pick on your game's condition

...especially since...

Quoted from pinwiztom:

...we know each other casually...

...and your'e right, I...

Quoted from pinwiztom:

did not take it that way.

But thanks for clarifying, nevertheless. I do, however, think the bumper color discovery/theory is...

Quoted from pinwiztom:

...very interesting...

...and glad that you...

Quoted from pinwiztom:

...tend to agree...

...particularly since it sounds like you knew Russ personally.

Unfortunately, he passed before I re-entered the hobby. I would have loved to meet him and chat pinball history. I'm still sort of a young turd and only began collecting about five years after Russ left us.

Regardless, it was awfully nice to hear about this:

Quoted from pinwiztom:

This game obviously had a special place in Russ Jensen's heart,
and when he passed, a group of us fellow collectors on the west coast that attended his memorial,
pooled together some funds to buy his Metro pin from the family and then donated it to the PPM,
in his memory.

What a fitting place for his beloved game. I'd imagine Russ would have been pretty happy knowing that his pinball brothers ensured it would arrive in the stewardship of the PPM's hallowed halls.

#614 1 year ago

Flying High, this is a work in progress. Although I have had this game for more than a year, just have not spent a lot of time on it. Currently it is stuck in re-set. Every coil is/was stuck with a combo of grease, oil, and graphite. Bought a replacement backglass, it looks great! A long weekend is approaching, so I will be working on it again.

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The lock down bar has been lightly sanded, stained, and cleared. The rails, legs, and back box trim will be done eventually.

#615 1 year ago
Quoted from Darcy:

A long weekend is approaching, so I will be working on it again.

I love that feeling....

#616 1 year ago

The ones that get the most play, stay.

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#617 1 year ago

Ah got Kings in the line-up now. Looking good.

#618 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

The ones that get the most play, stay.

Stay in the garage?

#619 1 year ago
Quoted from presqueisle:

Stay in the garage?

That is where all the action and drinking happens.

#620 1 year ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

That is where all the action and drinking happens.

And then some!

#621 1 year ago

I was just kidding around. I know the grill was close by too, so that is the preemo location

#622 1 year ago

Lets just say I decided it was time to get all my ducks in a row, so to speak. I've been through who knows how many, now not looking to buy anymore, and these are the keepers.

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#623 1 year ago

My son Sean's latest restoration. He just keeps getting better and better! Nice work son. You make me proud.

#624 1 year ago

Sean did a great job! Are those flipper guards NOS or cleaned up? They look good.

#625 1 year ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

My son Sean's latest restoration. He just keeps getting better and better! Nice work son. You make me proud.

Now, that's an enjoyable way to document a restoration. Well done on both the restoration and the video. Kudos to your son, Sean.

#626 1 year ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

My son Sean's latest restoration. He just keeps getting better and better! Nice work son. You make me proud.

Great resto on a great game!

#627 1 year ago
Quoted from PinballFever:

Sean did a great job! Are those flipper guards NOS or cleaned up? They look good.

Thanks! They are repro. I tried to re-use as many original parts as I could but they were just too far gone.

#628 1 year ago

A lucky day for that old pin when your son picked it up. Very nice, and a great video too!

#629 1 year ago
Quoted from o-din:

The ones that get the most play, stay.

You should line up the best 7 woodrails and call them the "Magnificent Seven".

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#630 1 year ago

Surprised that they didn't make a Yul Brynner pinball. They could now it would say "So shall it be written, so shall it be played!"

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#631 1 year ago

Sensational ! Thanks for sharing......the rebirth of that Sitting Pretty.

#632 1 year ago
Quoted from Grayman_EM:

Surprised that they didn't make a Yul Brynner pinball. They could now it would say "So shall it be written, so shall it be played!"

https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=1378&picno=31719
This, maybe?

#633 1 year ago
Quoted from Pinballjr:

Thanks! They are repro. I tried to re-use as many original parts as I could but they were just too far gone.

They look great! Where do you get them from?

#636 1 year ago

You gotta love these woodrails. They have a charm that I think is unmatched. Especially sitting in a home all shined up.

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#637 1 year ago

Woodrails currently in the game rooms:

(from right) '50 Gottlieb Bowlette, '51 Williams Hayburners, '53 Williams Silver Skates, '54 Williams Screamo (project)
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Three Genco games - '48 Floating Power, '50 South Pacific, '48 Screwball
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Three Gottlieb games - '59 Queen Of Diamonds, '53 Poker Face, '52 Happy Days
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'60 Gottlieb Kewpie Doll, '57 Williams Jig Saw, '59 Williams Rocket
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A couple more Williams from '59 - Golden Bells and Spot Pool

Bowlette, Kewpie Doll, Jig Saw and Rocket are on loan from a friend, and South Pacific and Screwball are co-owned.

In addition, there's a '50 Williams Rag Mop currently in work, and a couple of '50 Williams Nifty's in the queue.

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#638 1 year ago
Quoted from tomcons:

Woodrails currently in the game rooms:

Wow!

#639 1 year ago

Here is a posting from North New Jersey craigslist for woodrails....might be just parts?

newjersey.craigslist.org link

#640 1 year ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

Here is a posting from North New Jersey craigslist for woodrails....might be just parts?
newjersey.craigslist.org link

vic_camp looks like lots of wonderful coffee tables.

#641 1 year ago

I couldn't live with myself if I ever go that "coffee table" route.

#642 1 year ago
Quoted from tomcons:

Woodrails currently in the game rooms:
(from right) '50 Gottlieb Bowlette, '51 Williams Hayburners, '53 Williams Silver Skates, '54 Williams Screamo (project)

Three Genco games - '48 Floating Power, '50 South Pacific, '48 Screwball

Three Gottlieb games - '59 Queen Of Diamonds, '53 Poker Face, '52 Happy Days

'60 Gottlieb Kewpie Doll, '57 Williams Jig Saw, '59 Williams Rocket

A couple more Williams from '59 - Golden Bells and Spot Pool
Bowlette, Kewpie Doll, Jig Saw and Rocket are on loan from a friend, and South Pacific and Screwball are co-owned.
In addition, there's a '50 Williams Rag Mop currently in work, and a couple of '50 Williams Nifty's in the queue.

Definitely look foward to seeing more pics of that Screamo project as you work on it! That's one on my some day list!

#643 1 year ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

Here is a posting from North New Jersey craigslist for woodrails....might be just parts?
newjersey.craigslist.org link

Possibly from the Silverman auction?

#644 1 year ago
Quoted from DennisDodel:

Possibly from the Silverman auction?

Yup. (not my stuff)

#645 1 year ago
Quoted from tomcons:

Woodrails currently in the game rooms:

Beautiful woodrail collection. Thanks for showing them to us.

#646 1 year ago
Quoted from pacmanretro:

Definitely look foward to seeing more pics of that Screamo project as you work on it! That's one on my some day list!

One day I'll get back to it. The cabinet is beautiful. Repro backglass. But playfield needs a lot of touchup, and even worse is the damage from a leaking bottle of cleaner at the top.

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#647 1 year ago

gorgeous collection of pins tom , i didnt realize you had a spot pool too . i bought that one in allentown this year , have it fully working , i have someone that is going to do that repair on the center marking on the playfield , once i strip it down .

im glad im not the only one with both a skill pool and a spot pool .

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#648 1 year ago
Quoted from singlezero:

gorgeous collection of pins tom , i didnt realize you had a spot pool too . i bought that one in allentown this year , have it fully working , i have someone that is going to do that repair on the center marking on the playfield , once i strip it down .
im glad im not the only one with both a skill pool and a spot pool .

Had my eye on that "Spot Pool" at Pinfest. Glad you got it.

#649 1 year ago

oops dont know how my woodrail images got posted there, i didnt mean to , anyways , youll notice an oddity on the mfg backglss of no double award in the lower left corner , it has a mask of tape like material on the bg itself to circumvent gambling. however playing the machine it does pay out double award with a 2 credit game.

#650 1 year ago

My favorite restoration, from a couple of years back - a '52 Gottlieb Happy Days, a real favorite when I was a kid. It apparently sat for years derelict in a shed in Mississippi with a bunch of other woodrails when the Coinopwarehouse folks found it. shed 04-11 (resized).jpg

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No playfield glass, so the playfield was a total mess - scratched, filthy and worn, the rubbers all melted onto the surface, and the plastics completely toasted. Luckily the unique playfield inserts and most of the bumper caps were still there.

Relays and other parts had been cannibalized, some coils were fried, plus a hard-to-find mis-wire that took a friend & I many hours to sort out.

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Playfield cleaning underway.
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As would have been expected, the backglass was in bad shape as well.

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On the other hand, the cabinet was in excellent condition.
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After lots of touchups to the playfield and new plastics. And a new backglass from Shay Arcade Group. Turned out pretty good.
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