Quoted from f3honda4me:
Far as I know the playfield art is the same as the LE/SE, but with glitter.
When the clear cracks, does it shower the playfield with glitter? Best lightshow ever.
Yeah, this is fantasyland stuff, calling Visa to get $10k back because the paint chipped on a toy.
Quoted from BOBCADE:
This support made me comfy enough to buy a JP2 LE but if pooling on the pro is being reported I really don't want to deal with this crap again.
Yeah, I went through the ringer with MMR playfield issues and don't want to deal with it again. I know that's a different company, but the hassle is all the same to me. I ordered a JP2 premium, but have no problem canceling if it seems like a fair number of the pros have clear issues. I'm a patient man; I'll just wait and buy a HUO game with a proven good playfield. Just say no to NIB roulette.
Maybe at first, but if you hit the distributor in the wallet, I guarantee the pain will flow upstream to JJP. Then JJP will make Mirco feel the pain. Do what you can do, and let the natural market forces work it out.
The higher the defect rate, the less likely they will take care of customers. 5 out of 1,000? Fully populated replacement playfield with shipping covered both ways. 500 out of 1,000? Maybe we'll sell you a blank playfield at cost plus shipping. Replacing hundreds of playfields for free would put them out of business. Not doing it might eventually have the same effect, though.
Quoted from Psw757:
All good except the last two minutes when the distributor hat comes out.
Seriously, he should edit that part out because it’s terrible terrible optics in my opinion as a seller of these brands.
Yeah, the part where he starts yelling & swearing, pretty cringe-inducing. "Next week I could die in a fiery crash down the highway, and I'm not worried about, ooh, my brake pads have a little bit of residue and cracking, no!" A better cargument would be, what if the paint was flaking off around the door handles and a car salesmen yelled at you on a podcast to just keep buying cars, don't worry about it.
At one point the guest says "no else cares about that little ding but you." Here's the thing: I pay for my games, so my opinion is the one that matters. You know who else cares? Every guy I might ever sell it to.
Just ignore that guy. He'll quickly tire of the pointless bickering if he's punching air.
There are two reasons to post in this thread.
A: you're concerned about the issue
Whole lot of column B happening lately. Don't feed 'em.
I certainly don't want to speak for Charlie, but replacing 300+ playfields (especially populated swaps) could put a small company out of business. Washers are probably the lesser of two evils.
I would love to have so much free time that I could spend hours on something I don't care about and doesn't affect me.
Wanna buy one with clear & art chipped down to bare wood around several posts? If so, do you expect price to reflect condition?
A better question, why write a couple thousand words about an issue that wouldn’t bother you, hypothetically, if you were a NIB buyer, which you’re not? Incredibly bored? No holiday weekend plans? Just wanna rile up people who care about something you don’t?
Quoted from smalltownguy2:
Per request, I can't discuss the details of my back and forth communication between me, my distributor, and JJP.
It's always this hush-hush crap in the pinball industry. Back when my MMR playfield was so bad that CGC drove a populated playfield to my house and swapped it, I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement. But I don't give a shit anymore. NDAs are barely worth the paper they're printed on.
Quoted from jeffro01:
Has it EVER occurred to you that some of us aren't affected, and even if we were, perhaps we just don't care?
That definitely occurred to me. What I can't figure out is why people in those categories are wasting time in this thread instead of playing their games.
They’d be ridiculed mercilessly if peppermint washers were the official company fix.
Quoted from tomdotcom:
You're worse than the people complaining. How many times have you played the apologist? 100 posts in 20 different threads? Give it a rest ffs.
Yeah, I can't imagine visiting a thread about a problem that doesn't bother me 100 times to say "this doesn't bother me!" but it takes all kinds.
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