I’m shocked that anyone kept buying new games after 2016....but this hobby is super F’ing odd now, so keep buying unfinished, untested, poorly made $10k+ games, I dunno!

I'm shocked that these things are considered impressive. Sure, it was more than Stern was putting in its games in 2011...but bumper toppers? They don't really do anything. Monkey? Magnet on a track...a trick done better on a game like Bram Stoker's Dracula. The witch is just a sculpt that moves up and down...Dr. Evil & Iron Monger do the same thing, except you can actually hit them. Spinning House? Just a thing that spins on a motor.

WOZ's whole reason for existing is because in 2010, home buyers did NOT want Sterns. They thought they were cheap and had bad photoshop art....They weren't selling at $3500 NIB. Jack made WOZ to sell something to his Pinball Sales customers. A widebody game, with lots of mechs, family friendly theme, new tech like a large LCD and color changing LED playfield lighting...for $6500!

Anyway, almost every single 90's game and their features are far more amazing than anything new, and will blow you away if you haven't exprienced them. Dr. Who's time expander, Whitewater's crazy ramps and divertors, Dracula's mist ball, MM's castle, etc. All of the best mechanical features ever made already exist, in games of impeccable quality, that have stood the test of time and are awesome in a home collection.

It's fascinating to see how tastes have changed, and to see home buyers jumping over each other to buy Sterns for double the price. Marketing as a "lifestyle brand" truly worked.

I'd rather have less toys that do cool things, than a lot of toys that do nothing. Take the tree toppers off, the monkey out (they did), the spinning house, the witch...it's the same exact game. The "toys" aren't actually mechs that interact with the ball in any way. IMO something like Stern's POTC ship is far more impressive. Interacts with the player, has multiple levels of animation, and then reveals a new shot.

Similar but better. I like how you don’t understand I was trying to make a clear point that mechs in older games were cooler, better, more innovative, and more fun.

Tables....

I’m always rooting for JJP to do their thing and do it well. I respect WOZ, I just don’t get anything out of the toys, personally. Dialed In is neat, I just don’t wanna pay big bucks for one. Much to the chagrin of everyone on Pinside, I think Hobbit’s a great game. I hope they figure out this crappy playfield stuff in case GnR or Toy Story blow my socks off.

It’s a planned feature. For those who don’t like a game’s playfield art, “who cares, it’s gonna chip off anyway!”

Being into pinball is NOT defined by new games. You can stay in the hobby without ever buying a new game. There are thousands of high quality machines with high quality parts that have lasted 5, 10, 30 years...available to buy, usually for much less than NIB. Anyone can easily swear off NIB & still be having tons of fun playing & buying pinball.

I see 2 slot machines & bedsheets with fake voices

Thankfully none of these new games move the needle for me. Enjoying the “oldies”.

Golly gee willikers, why is everyone so negative!?!?! All pinball is great!!! That’s what the Twitch influencers & podcasters who work for Stern & sell games for a living tell us! We should be super happy all the time like them! Look how much they enjoy pinball! May we all reach that level of positivity one day!

May Jack & Gary bless you all! Send them more money next time, for the good of pinball!!!!!!!