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Wonka LE Sling Post Chipping in one month!!


By rs812

3 months ago



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#2201 49 days ago
Quoted from Extraballz:

You say nobody is right or wrong here yet one approach will make the manufacturers fix the defective machines they are putting out and the other approach only lets them get away with selling defective machines. You can’t grasp this??

"Getting away with this" implies that the manufacturers shipped bad playfields on purpose -and- had no inherent interest in fixing the issue without being forced.

I do not believe that for one second. Indeed, people are saying recent Stern JP machines are fine, and Jack said at Expo the issue is fixed.

Pitchforks down? At least tentatively?

#2202 49 days ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

So has anybody bought this game manufacturer this last month?
Potential future buyer would liketoknow.

I bought one last week, born on date 10/06/19 le #72. No clear coat pooling or issues, machine was delivered in great condition without issue.

#2203 49 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

"Getting away with this" implies that the manufacturers shipped bad playfields on purpose -and- had no inherent interest in fixing the issue without being forced.
I do not believe that for one second. Indeed, people are saying recent Stern JP machines are fine, and Jack said at Expo the issue is fixed.
Pitchforks down? At least tentatively?

How many titles over the last few years had this playfield issue? What 10? They knew they had the issue but they thought the people would let it slide. They were wrong. And so are you. No hard feelings but your wrong.

#2204 48 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

To be clear (no pun) it's not that I don't care, it's that it's not enough to stop me having fun and buying them,

I can only assume that the reason you don’t care is because you have a shitload of disposable income. If you were a poor shlep like alot of us on here are then you would probably care a lot more. If you game falls apart you can Probably just go buy a new one, if our games fall apart we’re f*cked. Thats why alot of us care, not to mention the fact that for 6-13 thousand dollars we should be getting a very high quality product. I have to put in a lot of hard work and save my ass off to buy these games so i dont want a chipping and pooling piece of shit playfield.

#2205 48 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

"Getting away with this" implies that the manufacturers shipped bad playfields on purpose -and- had no inherent interest in fixing the issue without being forced.

This is EXACTLY what the f*ck they did! They 100% knew about these pooling problems.

#2206 48 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I can only assume that the reason you don’t care

In the post you quoted, I literally said I care. FFS get me out of this

#2207 48 days ago
Quoted from zaphX:

In the post you quoted, I literally said I care. FFS get me out of this

Of course you would rather it not be an issue, but you have been on here a million times day after day trying to act like it's not a big deal when in fact it's a really big deal. This is a HUGE deal to some people, me being one of them. I take a lot of pride in my games and I am proud of them and enjoy showing them off to people and stuff. The last thing I want is a playfield that's falling apart.

I realize that in time this will happen no matter what if I play my games enough and I can accept that no problem, but it's not acceptable on my brand new IMDN and Munsters that I own.

#2208 48 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

I can only assume that the reason you don’t care is because you have a shitload of disposable income. If you were a poor shlep like alot of us on here are then you would probably care a lot more. If you game falls apart you can Probably just go buy a new one, if our games fall apart we’re f*cked. Thats why alot of us care, not to mention the fact that for 6-13 thousand dollars we should be getting a very high quality product. I have to put in a lot of hard work and save my ass off to buy these games so i dont want a chipping and pooling piece of shit playfield.

If your buying high priced toys like we all are then your not poor by any means. 1 billion people all over the world are starving and were buying 5-10k nib pins....trust me we all cld be much worse off.
Also many of the pooling games are by no means littlery falling apart. I bought a wonka le used with pooling and trust me ,normally i wldnt do this however .. i know its a keeper and i did as many protective measures as i cld with my skill set. I've played the shit out of it(most fun I've had in the hobby yet) and its doing ok ...its not perfect but it will b fine for a long time. Im still gonna contact jjp to see if something can be done(un populated free playfield or discounted) If not ill buy a new playfield down the road and swap it out if need be ,but i don't believe this issue will ever effect the playability in any way. Trust me it bothers me knowing its there but everything will be ok and were having lots of fun in the mean time. I'm not gonna let these issues ruin my enjoyment bc we only come around once and its a short time at that.
For now take whatever preventive measures you can to make sure your issues dont get any worse . That way if your not taken care of it won't be the end of the world . Things can always be worse bud. We are lucky to even have these amazing mechanical toys in our residence.

#2209 47 days ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

If your buying high priced toys like we all are then your not poor by any means. 1 billion people all over the world are starving and were buying 5-10k nib pins....trust me we all cld be much worse off.
Also many of the pooling games are by no means littlery falling apart. I bought a wonka le used with pooling and trust me ,normally i wldnt do this however .. i know its a keeper and i did as many protective measures as i cld with my skill set. I've played the shit out of it(most fun I've had in the hobby yet) and its doing ok ...its not perfect but it will b fine for a long time. Im still gonna contact jjp to see if something can be done(un populated free playfield or discounted) If not ill buy a new playfield down the road and swap it out if need be ,but i don't believe this issue will ever effect the playability in any way. Trust me it bothers me knowing its there but everything will be ok and were having lots of fun in the mean time. I'm not gonna let these issues ruin my enjoyment bc we only come around once and its a short time at that.
For now take whatever preventive measures you can to make sure your issues dont get any worse . That way if your not taken care of it won't be the end of the world . Things can always be worse bud. We are lucky to even have these amazing mechanical toys in our residence.

Yes, we have to have money to be in this hobby, but if you have this issue, resale will probably cost you around 2k or more. I paid 12.5k for my IMDNLE. I shouldn't have to pay 2k more when it's time to trade or sell. 2k is a big deal to me and 95% of the population.

Blistering leads to chipping. If you have bigger blisters, just push on them to feel that they are hollow. They will be chips someday.

Quoted from zaphX:

In the post you quoted, I literally said I care. FFS get me out of this

Pretty simple solution: quit antagonizing people. This is a legitimate thread for discussing product flaws, not a "pitchfork" thread.

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#2210 47 days ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

If your buying high priced toys like we all are then your not poor by any means. 1 billion people all over the world are starving and were buying 5-10k nib pins....trust me we all cld be much worse off.
Also many of the pooling games are by no means littlery falling apart. I bought a wonka le used with pooling and trust me ,normally i wldnt do this however .. i know its a keeper and i did as many protective measures as i cld with my skill set. I've played the shit out of it(most fun I've had in the hobby yet) and its doing ok ...its not perfect but it will b fine for a long time. Im still gonna contact jjp to see if something can be done(un populated free playfield or discounted) If not ill buy a new playfield down the road and swap it out if need be ,but i don't believe this issue will ever effect the playability in any way. Trust me it bothers me knowing its there but everything will be ok and were having lots of fun in the mean time. I'm not gonna let these issues ruin my enjoyment bc we only come around once and its a short time at that.
For now take whatever preventive measures you can to make sure your issues dont get any worse . That way if your not taken care of it won't be the end of the world . Things can always be worse bud. We are lucky to even have these amazing mechanical toys in our residence.

These issues have not ruined my fun at all but it leaves a real bad taste in my mouth to spend 7500 on a new Stern Premium and learn that I have pooling around the posts and chips in my playfield that has actually pulled the artwork off of the game.....that sucks bad.

I'm also aware that I am not poor and that I am very fortunate to have what I have, so saying that I'm a poor schlep was obviously an exaggeration. I am however an average guy who busts his ass in a factory and it takes me a hell of a long time to save up enough money to buy a new game. Truthfully I probably shouldn't even be buying pinball machines but I love pinball and it's my hobby.

Long story short, as hard as I have to work and as long as it takes me to save up for a new game, it probably bothers me a little more than someone that has a much bigger income than myself. That's why I take such great pride in my collection and why I take care of them the way that I do and why I want them to be in pristine condition. Call me weird but I don't want my $7500 dollar NIB pinball machine to have a defective playfield with chips in it.

#2211 44 days ago

Hi , on my DI LE , since one year in house , JJP and Mirco do not want to take this problem under warranty ............. Very disappointed with their answers, for me never again buying JJP
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#2212 44 days ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

If your buying high priced toys like we all are then your not poor by any means. 1 billion people all over the world are starving and were buying 5-10k nib pins....trust me we all cld be much worse off.
Also many of the pooling games are by no means littlery falling apart.

My neighbor had a pool put in. Less than a year later the decking started to crack.

The company that did it came out, busted it all out and redid it. Apparently the rebar wasn't set right. They owned up to it and took responsibility. No charge.

#2213 43 days ago

It will be interesting to know is the new run of Wonka CE's have the pooling issue as JJP say its now been fixed.

#2214 43 days ago
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:

It will be interesting to know is the new run of Wonka CE's have the pooling issue as JJP say its now been fixed.

I have to believe that the fix contributed to the delay.

#2215 42 days ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

These issues have not ruined my fun at all but it leaves a real bad taste in my mouth to spend 7500 on a new Stern Premium and learn that I have pooling around the posts and chips in my playfield that has actually pulled the artwork off of the game.....that sucks bad.
I'm also aware that I am not poor and that I am very fortunate to have what I have, so saying that I'm a poor schlep was obviously an exaggeration. I am however an average guy who busts his ass in a factory and it takes me a hell of a long time to save up enough money to buy a new game. Truthfully I probably shouldn't even be buying pinball machines but I love pinball and it's my hobby.
Long story short, as hard as I have to work and as long as it takes me to save up for a new game, it probably bothers me a little more than someone that has a much bigger income than myself. That's why I take such great pride in my collection and why I take care of them the way that I do and why I want them to be in pristine condition. Call me weird but I don't want my $7500 dollar NIB pinball machine to have a defective playfield with chips in it.

Your feelings make perfect sense whether u have a lot of disposable income or not. For me its more about principal. I've always thought these companies have it made in that they depend on the pinball enthusiasts to provide labor to repair their games, which in turn saves them a ton of money. So when theres issues they should all step up to the plate and resolve. Due to all of this I refuse to ever buy another NIB game (CGC being the exception), and will just wait and get a nice HUO game. I just picked up a perfect POTC LE (with no pooling), and 76 plays for less than a NIB game would cost, and it had over $700 of really nice mods. So if your patient this is the way to go.

#2216 42 days ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

Your feelings make perfect sense whether u have a lot of disposable income or not.

Yep i agree and saying he had a lot of disposable income was by no means a knock on him. All i meant was some people can actually piss away 5 or 10K and not care. I just gotta believe that is where that type of mentality comes from. I wish that i could have that same attitude to be honest with you lol.

#2217 42 days ago
Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:

It will be interesting to know is the new run of Wonka CE's have the pooling issue as JJP say its now been fixed.

Hope so Julian - I’ve got a CE coming! Welcome round for a game!

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