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Women of Pinball Album Cover Tribute

By xsvtoys

2 years ago


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    #201 2 years ago

    Very nice work! Would look great in any arcade.

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    #202 2 years ago

    Any update? Curious how it's coming along.

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    #203 8 months ago

    I'm slowly getting back into more pinball stuff after having to deal with the happenstances of life for the last few years. And a PM from pinsider Roar got me back into this project.

    The last picture I posted (#199) is still my latest revision. Now upon request, here is a key for that one. There is a numbered picture and a spreadsheet made into a PDF which I think I can upload here. Here goes:
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    pinballalbumcover15key.pdf

    I can play around with this some more since everything is in layers in a giant photoshop file. But it does take work as I noted before to change things around or add in new pics. You have to look at the whole picture and get everything balanced. Thank you again to everyone who gave inputs as it gets hard to notice all the little things when you work on it for so long.

    #204 8 months ago

    This is awesome xsvtoys, thanks so much for doing this... hopefully this can lead to some more cool things with the "women from pinball" as the inspiration!

    #205 8 months ago

    I like the way it turned out. Way to go XSV!
    Pretty good mix in more ways than one.

    I looked over your spreadsheet list and can report the following:
    The ladies came from:
    38 Bally
    26 Gottlieb
    14 Williams
    6 Stern
    3 Chicago Coin
    3 Segasa
    2 Data East
    2 Playmatic
    1 Arkon
    1 Capcon
    1 Genco
    1 PMI/IPB
    1 Zaccaria
    1 Zidware
    100 total

    Artists with the most attractive ladies/best artwork selected:
    Gordon M. (17)
    Dave C. (15)
    Paul F. (8)
    Roy P. (7)
    Lots of other great artists listed above no doubt.

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    #206 59 days ago

    I finally got around to getting a metal print made from this digital file. It looks pretty darn sweet. As far as I can see, all of the artwork came out nice and crisp with perfect detail. It is a 16"x20" metal sign with glossy finish, purchased from Shutterfly. I used to get some stuff printed at Costco, but they closed that down and offered their customers to move to Shutterfly, where you get about a 50% discount and free shipping, so it about $55 out the door.

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    #207 59 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    I finally got around to getting a metal print made from this digital file.

    Did you use the wrong file? It looks like lady 80 is missing.

    #208 59 days ago
    Quoted from littlecammi:

    Did you use the wrong file? It looks like lady 80 is missing.

    Dammit looks like you are right. I’ll have to take a look at that, although obviously it’s too late. I have too many versions of this pic sitting on the computer, I need to clean them up. Still it looks great, better than I would have thought.

    #209 58 days ago

    These are good too, especially the Poseidon one

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    #210 58 days ago
    Quoted from Classics_Master:

    These are good too, especially the Poseidon one
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    Both are in there already

    This is the correct last version. I can't believe I printed the wrong one, just wasn't paying attention. I may have to buy another one!

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    #211 58 days ago

    I'm impressed.

    My only complaint is - I wish I would have recommended the women from Paragon sooner.

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    #212 58 days ago
    Quoted from SunKing:

    I'm impressed.
    My only complaint is - I wish I would have recommended the women from Paragon sooner.[quoted image][quoted image]

    She is there, front and center underneath the pinball.

    #213 58 days ago

    D'oh! I see it now. My bad. ...was looking at the PDF (which stopped at #46).

    Carry on Good Sir!

    #214 58 days ago

    Y'know, many years ago, I came up with the idea of 'Sinball' - soft porn pinball. I later developed the idea into Strip Joker Poker, adding an LCD media player to the famous game, showing short clips of sexy girls stripping (many years before LCD's appeared in real pinball games).

    I'm not sexist, but I am a man, and I do appreciate and love the female form.

    I'm sure a collection of 'Sinball' games would be very popular, but who's brave enough to build them?

    #215 58 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Both are in there already
    This is the correct last version. I can't believe I printed the wrong one, just wasn't paying attention. I may have to buy another one!
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    Cool, I see them now. Wow that’s a lot of work! Looks great!

    #216 56 days ago

    Ok everyone, its time to circle the wagons again and do some tweaking. All suggestions and inputs are considered, this wouldn't be where it is without some of the great ideas I have received in this thread. Sorry about the long text to describe, but TL;DR is that I need to make adjustments to the image below and if anyone as ideas as it goes feel free to chime in.

    Some Pinsiders have contacted me for the file so they can make metal prints, which is great, I am more than happy to do this. However, after finally getting the metal picture printed as I show, after careful inspection and consideration, there are some things I don't like. Might as well get it as perfect as it can be!

    First is the big pinball. I don't like the way the pinball itself looks on the print, so I am going to search for a better pic, or possibly create one. I also don't like the 3 different colors I used for the text glow for the words on the pinball. But then after looking at it, I also thought it might look better to simplify it and just put a 100 on it as shown below. Its pretty obvious what there are 100 of. Or, 200 depending on your point of view Let me know what you think.

    Next is a bigger issue to tackle. Most of this relates to the start of the project, where I was just making a fun digital picture. Note that I am not a graphic designer by trade, but I have some self-taught experience in the area. My main failing was not thinking about getting prints from the beginning. There are certain considerations that need to be adjusted for when sending digital files to print. Some geeky graphic design details follow:

    First, one bit of good news. The graphics for all of the females look great on the metal sign I did. This is good, because they came from many different sources. Not all 100 images are easily available as high resolution digital files. But after carefully looking at all of them on the 20x16 metal sign, I think they look great. That is, no blurry images. The print file for the 16"x20" sign was 150 dpi, which is a good resolution for this type of printing. The file size for that is 3000x2400 pixels. The original source Photoshop is file is 5760x4536 pixels. This means that a print file up to 36" across can be made and still keep the 150dpi resolution, keeping the detail looking great. You can print bigger than 36", but then the dpi would need to start dropping, and in theory the detail would be less. Its hard to tell exactly how very large prints would look without actually making them so you can see.

    There is an issue to deal with when printing, which is know as bleed. You can't necessarily print your image to the very edges, depending on a variety of factors. For example, then I first uploaded my 16x20 jpg to Shutterfly, luckily they have a preview for the metal sign, and I could tell that the edges (and major parts of some girls) were cut off. So I had to do some manipulation of the file so everyone would fit.

    The bottom like is, it is difficult to get a just-right print if your artwork goes to the edges. As I worked on this art, I have had various images out to the edges, and this was due to the fact that not all of these women are fully drawn in the original artwork on the pinball machine. So I strategically placed some of them on edges (or hid them behind other things) to disguise this.

    I did manage to get the two sides and the top set up so they are complete with some black space extending out. But I had the ones at the bottom cut off at the bottom. This becomes a bit of pain to deal with when sending to print because of the bleed issue, so now I am going to attempt to re-do it so I can have a black space cushion all the way around.

    When you see the pic below where I just added in the extra space to start with, you can see the dilemma. I have to sort out that bottom row so we don't have women with their bottom halves sliced straight across. Some of the original images for that bottom row don't have that part drawn, so now I have more work to do to fix that by moving things or possibly creating some artwork.

    Another possible way to fix this is to anchor the bottom row behind something else, for example like a hedge. The you could have them behind the hedge with the legs covered, and extend that hedge downward to the edge. If the hedge were tall enough, then you wouldn't worry about the bottom part being cut off by the bleed, because visually it will look fine.

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    #217 56 days ago

    Here is a possibility to anchor the bottom of the picture and allow the bottom row to hide behind rather than having everyone floating in black space. This isn't prettified yet, just a draft for a concept review.

    Another possibility might be to use the bottom banner to show a list of all of the pinball machines represented, maybe in alphabetical order. The text would be small but still should be readable and might be a fun addition.

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    #218 56 days ago

    Personally, I like it better without the manufacturers' names at the bottom.

    #219 56 days ago

    I think what you're doing is great. I am more than willing to wait and see a final product that you're satisfied with.

    I also appreciate the educational aspect of this project - I don't think I have ever had to think about what you're describing to get the pic to look and print correctly.

    #220 56 days ago

    This is the latest revision

    - better pinball graphic
    - just the 100 text in the pinball
    - bottom right section is reorganized
    - bottom left partially reorganized

    The goal is a nice bottom row without cut-off legs and such. I have had some luck rearranging things, but you always have to deal with the fact that most of the images are not complete because of the way the artwork came out. For example, there are not too many like Satin Doll in the lower left that are complete figures. So this whole piece has things positioned strategically to hide these issues. So as I move them around, I have to deal with that. For example, I need to do some artwork to fix Star-Jet's feet and shoes on the lower right. There are some other minor artwork updates I have done in various places, but these so far are minor and you probably wouldn't notice them.

    All suggestions welcome.

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    #221 56 days ago

    Any chance to get a broo... I mean, Barracora in? noticed it was suggested earlier in the thread, but didn't see it make it.. perhaps the image is too difficult to fit in.

    #222 56 days ago

    Very nice! Theatre of Magic is slightly misspelled in the key.
    As punishment you need to include the new version of the "ravishing female magician" too (to quote old TOM promotion)

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    #223 55 days ago

    Here is the latest revision, this should be it, or very close. No cut-off legs on the bottom row. Same 100 women, just rearranged within the overall picture. I will be reviewing it a few times to make sure everything is clean, then that should be ready for print.

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    #225 54 days ago

    There’s got to be some play on words around pinball and pin-ups.

    #226 54 days ago

    Red from Road Show is a no show. Very cool poster.

    #227 54 days ago

    Personally there's three things that bug me about this that I think need tweaking.
    1. Everything looks nice and centered except for the woman with the green wings in the upper left corner (I don't know what game she's from) as her wings protrude way up over ever one else.
    2. The "100" in the pinball seems boring or confusing perhaps. I think it looked better with the "100 women of" was on the silver ball.
    3. The black area at the bottom needs either two women laying down under it or something of that nature to fill it in.

    Other then that I love it and would hang it on my game room wall for sure. Anyways, just some suggestions that I thought needed mentioning.
    John

    #228 53 days ago

    I agree with Dayhuff, the work is great and looks awesome, but I’d take the 100 off the pinball. Also, in my opinion I’d make the strikes and spares art larger than the wizard art next to it. I might have that be the main focal point just above the pinball, center and slightly larger than it is.

    The butterfly art is fine to me, but maybe mirror the art for the top right corner to balance it? Maybe there’s more art of a different color butterfly facing the other direction anyway? If so, that would work great.

    But wow looks great! Only other art I could think of would be the playfield art from Bally Fore and the back glass art from Gottlieb’s Eclipse and Panthera, they may be on there and I didn’t notice, but this is really nice and again, great work.

    #229 53 days ago

    Thanks for these inputs!

    Quoted from Trond:

    There’s got to be some play on words around pinball and pin-ups.

    I have spent some more time inspecting the entire picture and have made a fair number of small adjustments so all of the women are positioned optimally and with minimal issues like cut-off body parts. Its fun work because its easy to look at these pictures and admire the great artwork these artists came up with.

    Quoted from Dayhuff:

    Personally there's three things that bug me about this that I think need tweaking.
    1. Everything looks nice and centered except for the woman with the green wings in the upper left corner (I don't know what game she's from) as her wings protrude way up over ever one else.
    2. The "100" in the pinball seems boring or confusing perhaps. I think it looked better with the "100 women of" was on the silver ball.
    3. The black area at the bottom needs either two women laying down under it or something of that nature to fill it in.
    Other then that I love it and would hang it on my game room wall for sure. Anyways, just some suggestions that I thought needed mentioning.
    John

    As I have been looking at it again, I am getting the same thoughts for 2 and 3. For 1, that is "Butterfly" by Segasa (Spain). The extension of her wing out away from the rest was a bit of an artistic license, something to catch the eye and allow a small diversion from the symmetry.

    For 2, I have wrestled with the words on the pinball since the beginning. I am starting to think that there should be no words on it at all. After all, it will be obvious it is a pinball. And it is obvious these are women from pinball art. It is not obvious that there are 100 of them exactly, well you could count them but who would do that? However, if I take that number off, then it leaves the door open to have a different number than 100. Which leads to...

    3, yes this has been bugging me since I redid the bottom section to allow black space for printing. It is now imbalanced with that black area under the flipper. One way to fix it would be to lower the flipper downward, but that would take some major surgery to get everything balanced. I also had the same idea as you, some reclining figures could fill that in. If I divest myself of the "100" I can add some more in. I will have to go on the hunt for some new ones that will fit that area, or again do some major rearranging.

    Quoted from Classics_Master:

    I agree with Dayhuff, the work is great and looks awesome, but I’d take the 100 off the pinball. Also, in my opinion I’d make the strikes and spares art larger than the wizard art next to it. I might have that be the main focal point just above the pinball, center and slightly larger than it is.
    The butterfly art is fine to me, but maybe mirror the art for the top right corner to balance it? Maybe there’s more art of a different color butterfly facing the other direction anyway? If so, that would work great.
    But wow looks great! Only other art I could think of would be the playfield art from Bally Fore and the back glass art from Gottlieb’s Eclipse and Panthera, they may be on there and I didn’t notice, but this is really nice and again, great work.

    Both Eclipse and Panthera are certainly there I never saw the golfers from Fore until now, they are good ones too. The way I originally intended it was that the "Big 4" are prominently featured just on top of the pinball, and they are made a bit larger than any of the others. These are my 4 personal favorites: C37, Elvira, Strikes and Spares redhead, and Ann Margaret from Wizard.

    Stay tuned for more...

    #230 53 days ago

    Wow, that's so cool! Congrats!
    Here's my five cents: maybe there should be a different angle for the flipper; right now the flipperfinger is almost horizontal; why not lower the right end? would look more dynamic.....Who do the legs at the very left bottom of the flipperfinger belong to? there's no corresponding body? I liked the version with a "title" on the silverball better.....and I think it's very ok to limit the whole thing to 100...this makes it kind of more special.....keep up the good work, thanks again!

    #231 53 days ago

    Latest revision, some big changes in this one. Hasn't been error-checked yet, I am seeing double from staring at this too much (4 boobs where there should be 2). Already spotted an issue, Iron Maiden's torso is dangling in mid-air, have to figure out how to fix that.

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    #232 53 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Latest revision, some big changes in this one. Hasn't been error-checked yet, I am seeing double from staring at this too much (4 boobs where there should be 2). Already spotted an issue, Iron Maiden's torso is dangling in mid-air, have to figure out how to fix that.
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    Yes I like the “100 women of” better than just the 100, looking great!

    #233 53 days ago

    Nice poster but got to say that girl #36 looks like she's mooning girl #37
    or 37 is giving 36 a butt exam. lol

    #234 53 days ago

    Is this translight size?

    #235 53 days ago

    Data East Phantom of the Opera? Maybe I missed it? Christine of course !

    #236 52 days ago

    How could Creech be overlooked...especially with all the nude girl playfield controversy a while back....

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    #237 52 days ago
    Quoted from Junior:

    Nice poster but got to say that girl #36 looks like she's mooning girl #37
    or 37 is giving 36 a butt exam. lol

    I call those Easter Eggs, some of them are inadvertent and others were intentionally done by me(like the strategic placement of the neighbors to the topless Twin Win). I had a list of them for the earlier version but I’ll have to redo it because there were a lot of repositions.

    Quoted from Flowst:

    Data East Phantom of the Opera? Maybe I missed it? Christine of course !

    She is there, you will have to look harder

    Quoted from Sonic:

    How could Creech be overlooked...especially with all the nude girl playfield controversy a while back....
    [quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

    The girl is in there, but no Creech himself. (Correction - the girl is also not in this latest version) If you go back toward the beginning of this thread and look at the early versions you will see that indeed Creech was there holding her, so it was 100 girls plus a Creech. It seemed the majority vote was that he shouldn’t be in there and it should be all women. I’m about 50:50 on it.

    For the most part I steered away from the post-market nudity to keep it g-rated. Although the topless Twin Win is in there but with strategic coverups as I noted. Sexy Girl is also there but I modified that drawing with some strategic fabric additions to cover her up a bit.

    Quoted from Pinash:

    Is this translight size?

    There is a post a bit above where I talk about the details of the digital file and making prints, but the answer is yes it could be. I confirmed that it makes a nice print at 20x16. I believe the standard translite size is 18.5 x 26.5, so it will look good at that size. The aspect ratio is different, so that is why the black background is extended all the way around. The outer dimensions need to be resized to fit different size print shapes and that is done by extending the black background in one direction. Basically, the digital file needs to be optimized a bit for each printing scenario, which is easy to do in Photoshop.

    #238 52 days ago

    Bookmarking this. Terrific job!

    #239 52 days ago

    Just before I had my stroke and my 3 brain surgeries, I won a free calendar and I still have it stashed away. Almost 8 years ago.
    I could easily see a women and men of pinball calendar working today. It could be fun.

    #240 52 days ago

    As a side note, I know someone who has been building a digital collection of modified pinball art which includes all of the r-rated (and some x-rated LOL) stuff. That would make an interesting similar picture.

    It's not me though. I would do it...

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    #241 52 days ago

    Here is the latest, I put Creech back in, at least for my version I kind of like the idea of the solitary make Creech hanging out with the 100 women. Iron Maiden was taken out to keep the total at 100.

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    #242 52 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Here is the latest, I put Creech back in, at least for my version I kind of like the idea of the solitary make Creech hanging out with the 100 women. Iron Maiden was taken out to keep the total at 100.
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    they called him the gill-man - but did they really know?!? : )

    #243 52 days ago

    The flipper on the bottom was off-center and that was bugging me, corrected now.

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    #244 52 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    The flipper on the bottom was off-center and that was bugging me, corrected now.
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    Aw hell yeah, Big Betty is there!!! That’s my girl’s phone wallpaper! We love that game.

    #245 52 days ago

    I didn’t realize how many images were available. I looked for Jungle Queen and Cheetah but they didn’t make the cut.

    The Quicksilver lady is great too.

    #246 52 days ago
    Quoted from Hi-Fi:

    I didn’t realize how many images were available. I looked for Jungle Queen and Cheetah but they didn’t make the cut.
    The Quicksilver lady is great too.

    Cheetah is in there, with her cheetah! Have to look harder

    I hadn't seen Jungle Queen or Quicksilver until now. Jungle Queen (or Jungle Princess 2 player version) is especially nice and I found a good image for that one. I like that one so much, I may swap it out for someone else in the pic, we'll see.

    #247 52 days ago
    Quoted from xsvtoys:

    Here is the latest revision, this should be it, or very close. No cut-off legs on the bottom row. Same 100 women, just rearranged within the overall picture. I will be reviewing it a few times to make sure everything is clean, then that should be ready for print.[quoted image]

    Ignore everyone else. The overall “big picture” shape of this was perfect. Your earlier revisions were great.

    I just reread the ENTIRE THREAD. To everyone commenting now, reread the thread from the start. It explains all the women who came and went, and why some choices are made.
    Sidenote for xsvtoys Big Bang Bar was listed as 2007 IPB in your key, when it should be Capcom 1996. IPB didn’t change anything and Stan’s art wasn’t updated or altered.

    #248 52 days ago

    Thanks for those inputs. Yes there is an interesting history I think and it’s not just me, but also the Pinsiders who provided ideas and insights, all very much appreciated. It’s been fun working on this.

    I’ll fix the key for Big Bang Bar. Once it is finalized (again), I’ll have to make a new numbered key drawing and update the list.

    #249 52 days ago

    Personally I don't care for Creech being in there, can't he be photo shopped out?

    John

    #250 52 days ago
    Quoted from Dayhuff:

    Personally I don't care for Creech being in there, can't he be photo shopped out?
    John

    Yes, Creech-less version can easily be made by request.

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