No problem tex. I was so impressed with it, I bought another one for the Hobbit when it comes, but then realized TH has two screens, so maybe both of the video ports are used, so I may have to do a little Cable adjustment. Good luck.

WOZ has two video screens as well, remember the crystal ball?

True. It has it's own micro SD card too. It doesn't use one of the video ports.

I got my screen in, I'll be doing this mod soon,
I believe I'll be using command strips to connect the screen to the apron.

The command strips will be easy to remove and leave no residue when removed, thus making the mod completely reversible...

http://m.target.com/p/3m-command-damage-free-hanging-large-picture-hanging-strips-4-ct/-/A-13713732

Let us know how it goes. I looked at doing something like this, but I had a roll of old 3M double sided tape, and used that. I figured it's going on clear coat (on the apron) so I can always peel it off and use something like Goo Gone if I need to.

Good idea with the command strips.

Got it working
thanks for the pics Hitch, i needed them in the end because i plugged the ribbon cables in the wrong way.
Will post pics up later, but here is a quick video (wife playing)

Nice job. It's funny, now I have it in, I see so much more of the screen and what is going on.

Looks GREAT but wouldn't it be easier to see if it were in the middle of the apron or won't it fit there.

I didn't want any of the screen blocking the playfield. Even if it is just under the flippers. Just personal preference

OK

Ok, I have been waiting patiently. Raspberry Pi project kit steps please.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/IJgPX9x-f-4?autoplay=1&rel=0

I've been looking forward to this for while. Thanks Levi_br.

So I got the 7" lcd and stuff. Plugged it all in using 6 volts....power light lit..board gets hot very quickly..no picture, or anything else. Bought another complete setup, thinking I might have buggered something up. Arrived, set up, same result. I'm lost...

Have you got the power positive and negative in the right spot?
The right polarity looks like this...note, this show a USB power connector but it's the same for any source.
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Positive in the center, negative on the outer ring.

Bad power supply, changed, works now. Thanks guys!

im interested in the dmd mod since the woz has the dvi out already its a no brainer on getting this to work but how to get the dmd display and rule cards on the display is what I am wondering.

they also make a screen that is a 5 inch that would completely replace the rule card spot and look more factory
in fact I have been working on this.

The DVI output is used by the game for the back box monitor. There is a live VGA output you can use for the small monitor.

I hope you are not trying to use USB power off the WOZ PC. I found out they "modified" the PC so you can't use it to power other devices. Found out the hard way / jjp tech support while trying to power some spare "dancing water speakers" as a mod

When I hooked up the apron screen to the VGA port, both the DVI and VGA port went down to 1024x768. Is this happening to others who have tried this mod as well?

Just to be more clear, when the main woz monitor goes down to the lower resolution, the edges of the graphics are cut off by the backglass. Even with adjustments on the monitor, there is no way to resize the active area, so my edges are cut off. If I unplug the apron screen and reboot the main screen goes back to 1920x1080 with the correct size.

My game uses the VGA port for the main monitor since it's an early machine (6/6/13). I plugged my mod into the DVI port and it changed from 1366x768 to 1024x768. Still looks great and I can still see everything.

One note - do NOT plug in the mod after the game has been powered up. There was no output on the DVI on mine until I powered it up with the mod attached.

nope. just used the picture to show the power plug configuration. if you look at my other posts you will see that I used a power supply that plugs into the 120v plug at the front.

Mine is an early machine too, and it looks great.

Huh. Mine is a new production game, just built a couple weeks ago. The DVI drives the main monitor, so the mod plugs into VGA. I lose the underscan on the main monitor when the mod is plugged in, so the graphics go beyond the edge of the backglass and look bad. The monitor in my game has no adjustments for h size or v size like most monitors I have dealt with in the past. Strange...

Wow, I completely missed that thread. What a great idea and really affordable. Think I'll be doing it to all my pins. My kids sometimes (daddy too) loose focus on the playfield to look at the dots in action. Thank for posting guys.

Bam!

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DANG!!! That looks just sooooo perfect right there. Sure wish someone would come out with a kit for Stern Star Trek, Mustang, Avatar, T3....you get the idea. They would make a crap ton of money.

Maybe a splitter off of the Dmd ? And then to a smaller Dmd ... Daydreaming

No way smaller, yours is the perfect size.

One good Bam! deserves another...

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Oh man you guys are killin me.

Really like your bezel tape job, my tape keeps pulling up, I may find another type

Does this mod change the main video display on the later games? Mine was built in last month and would love to add the mod, but not sure if I want to sacrifice the look of the current display.

The display changes resolution slightly, but I have a hard time telling the difference, in one case it actually fixed an issue where I had a 1/2" black bar at the bottom of my screen, now it's filled in... I'll revert mine back (by unplugging the vga cable I installed) and snap pics and place it back and snap pics after the mod to show the difference.

I think possibly it may match the resolution of the screen added in... meaning if the rez of the 2nd screen is 720, then the main display may match the 720 and come down from 1080. possibly, don't mark my words just yet

Hey, I like that green bezel tape RobertWinter. I may just have to Mod my Mod.
Where did you get the tape from ?

Yeah, it gets a little tricky. Since it wraps around, the front wants to continually lift off, especially the smaller edges on the top and left. I've been removing the glass every few days and pressing it back down. It holds longer every time I do it. You could only do the face and avoid the lifting, but I wanted the wrap look.

When I applied the tape, I only covered to the metal edge. But I noticed there is a small black area of the display visible at the edges. Not a lot, maybe only 1/32". If I ever re-apply the tape (or do a backup), I'll probably go in a little further. That will help with adhesion as well.

Trade secret.

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Ok, the video card sends out the lower resolution to both displays when the extra screen is attached, so we need a 1080 screen attached if full 1080 is desired. Otherwise I don't notice the difference much

No mod screen

With mod screen
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Ouch....that's a big hit if ya ask me.

it is numbers wise... but when in 1080, some of the artifacting is still there and looks exactly like 720, I think it is most noticed (only slightly mind you) when looking at large graphic numbers on the screen, you can faintly see the jagged edges, otherwise the video and other graphics look pretty much the same

I never did care for 720p vid

The reality annoying thing is the score being cut off by the back glass slightly. Minor, but super annoying to me. I took the screen out.

my score is not cutoff, that's weird that yours is

I have an early game and without the mod it's 1366x768. Looks just as good at 1024x768.

FWIW, we do a lot of display systems at work. We did a side by side comparison of 1024x768 vs. 1920x1080 on 36" monitors using the same graphics (scaled, of course) and the difference was indiscernible.

I have a newer machine, built in July if this year. Score isn't all the way cutoff, just that the bottom edge of it is. Just looks ugly.

Is anyone making these kits up for sale?

Would this work to keep the display the same?
http://www.amazon.com/Resolution-1080P-Desktop-Digital-Display/dp/B00N7BUBHQ