Saw a hobbit on the floor with rad cals... holy cow! Those things were beautiful! Has me really thinking of upgrading my pins.

Do me a favor. Next time you get a new game put it in the middle of the row. Report back if you see a dip in initial earnings due to it not being on the end. Truly curious.

Thanks for operating games btw.

Thank you for the review, always nice to hear from someone who has played the game.

How did alien work out? That sure wasn’t hand drawn. People in glass houses...

My bottom line after playing Wonka is it is definitely on my radar, but not an immediate buy. I'm taking home an Alice Cooper today and super excited to get lots of playtime on it. That will satiate me for a good while before the itch returns. At that point a location near me will probably have one or can wait for the fall/winter shows to play again. I gotta say, if Zach from flip n out or Chris from Kingpin were to offer a show discount and no shipping to open at a show...that would probably put me over the hump come the fall/winter season...just sayin' guys.

And pictures of Wonka and the gang on the cabinet.

As far as innovation, art, and gameplay? Amazing, actually. Not Aurich’s fault the company was managed badly. If only it was JJP behind it, there would be a ton out there. I’d buy one for sure. Wonka...not sure on this, will need to play it.

Really impressed by the $7500 standard.

Finally something to compete with a Stern premium, and man is it comparatively loaded!

Looks like a super fun great shooting game, agreed they probably gimped the standard art to push the LE. My pins are crammed in like sardines so could care less.

Definitely in on a standard whenever I decide to move on from Dialed In. Luckily by then the code will be complete and there will be some used ones in the wild

The spouse and I played a half dozen games last night. We had both been excited for the reveal especially due to some recent podcasts, but her opinion of the game play was neutral at best (I liked it and am still interested). Plan to go back in a few hours and flip some more as I liked it quite a bit, and we saw the Wonka immediately after standing next to Steve Ritchie watching him play Black Knight one floor up. The Wonka reveal could have been managed better in my opinion, with a better introduction to differences in the models and a short game play introduction, without pandering to the rich family of owners, but then your mileage may vary.

Powder coated trim, legs, and wireforms inside the game too. Also better art and backglass. External sounds control as well.

Just my 2 cents.. The original buckskin (yellowish) color around Willy Wonka to me looks too much like car undercoat paint... No pop to it..

I just did a quick mock up of blue around him.
I think it suites it better?

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5000 games doesn't sound very limited anyway. Nib le's will be for sale for a long time.

I think this was done in response to the seeming no end of WOZ runs. This was JJP saying, 5000 and then no more. May not have come off as well as they wanted, but shows they are listening.

That’s all you had to say

Am I missing something here, theme-wise?

I grew up in the 70s... I remember the book from my childhood... and it’s a book that I read to my own kids. But Dahl has lots of killer books. The movie, tho ... this isn’t a movie that I ever remember being an “it” thing.

I think about the iconic pop-culture “things” from the 70s and 80s and the Gene Wilder Wonka flick doesn’t really stick out as something people were just clamoring for.

what bothers me is the sideart on the 7500 machine. basically says to the buyer “you bought the cheap machine so you dont deserve nice sideart”

that cab sideart totally sucks!

My apologies for changing the meaning of your comment "Pat has run out of creative gas and is now in recycle mode."

We watched the SDTM video w/ Pat and a 12 min YouTube video of gameplay before checking out the recording of the live stream. I’m glad we did it this way as our impressions are pretty favorable and know what the PF looks mostly like and how the sounds are in a quiet room.

I’m not entirely sold on the callouts, but as far as people complaining about the music, it may not be as cool as BKSOR, but I think it fits well. It actually reminds me of the background music they play in the Magic Kingdom.

When I think of fantasy/magical themes, I think harps, flutes, trumpets, xylophones, chimes, and whatnot and what I heard at least seemed to fit that bill.

Is the song Candy Man in it? If not. That’s a major blow as it’s a huge part of the movie.

I'm pretty sure that JJP paid for a spot on the front page, so let's not talk about this like there were 12k people tuning in just to see the game. A lot of users ended up there by default. If you followed the chat there was a lot of "wtf is this?" and "people actually still play pinball" comments. The second it was off the front page viewership dropped to around 2k users.

JJP didn’t pay for front page. Buffalo Pinball is a partnered Twitch channel and one of the “perks” of being a partner is frontpage time. I’m glad we were able to provide some additional exposure for the game.

Looks like a great shooting pin. Interesting layout. 4 flippers magnets will keep it interesting.

Price drop is huge news. Not sure why that is not getting more comments here. It was great to see monster bash come out lower as well. Yes you can always spend more to get more. But nice to see base machines more affordable. (And would be great to see them even lower, but that is why competition is good).

Colorful pin that has a good first impression.

Hope to play it at Allentown.

Game looks cool, but I'm not fully seeing the hype level. My question is what songs if any will be in it, and if they plan on a lot more movie clips and call outs. I know it's early code, so hoping they have a ton more movie scenes to add.

The whole stream is on youtube all 4 hours so watch it again without black outs.

How was the shaker integrated? Would it be worth it to add to the standard or not necessary?

Will JJP ever make a straight up pin like a Richie or Borg,etc
They are beautiful looking no doubt but does every game have to be “feature packed”

“Which way it’s going” “river flowing”
That audio is hella annoying just sounds like gobbly goop
Wow that game looks like a mess
No different video or camera angle is gonna make it look better
There’s a movie screen on a pinball great

They bash stern? Munsters way better than this where do they get off

I saw another video of jack talking about the game and how great he is and this and that “I did this” “I did that”
It’s weird man
Is that the Star Wars screen?

looks really fun! did anyone else just assume it would be purple armor?

The chocolate river / boat song is in there in its entirety. You can hear it in the video with the one guy playing who was actually good at pinball and managed to start some modes and multiball.

This jjp pinball thing is getting weird
Everybody blowing each other staring at the goofy big screen
I don’t know man this shit is getting weird
Munsters even BK3 by a mile

I would suggest you to leave the "weirdness" then and go back to the stern room. No reason for you to stay here just to bash.

Looks like production starts in June so hopefully they hear the feedback between now and then and respond. If I’m not mistaken, the feedback on Pinside spawned the PF art change for Spooky’s RZ so it’s not uncharted territory.

The more I watch, the more I'm liking it. I'm sure the code will be great when it's done. Hard to hear the songs a bit on stream, but sounds like they will maybe be playing during the different modes.

Couldn't we just order a new sideart set of the LE and put on a standard?

They are amazing. I did my POTC and looooove them.

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How is the Blue Disk Pad held on over the underground spinning disk ball lock mech? I can see that thing getting thrashed and needing to be replaced ever 4to6 months with heavy use. I hope there is a notch in the back of the blue disk pad to remove it and note just glue to keep it there.
Overall I like what I see. The left upper flipper with the magnet reminds me of a reverse roller games set up.
Good stuff from JJP!
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As far as Wonka features go, if I were to guy a Standard Edition, would it be possible to add at some future date:

1. Shaker Motor

2. Wonkivator Ball Lock assembly

RussMyers

Tempted by the CE, but think i'm going to stick with the LE. This will put me with:

Stern - BM66, Deadpool LE, BKSOR LE
JJP - POTC LE, DI LE, WONKA LE
CGC - MMr LE, MBr LE, AFM LE

Non-discriminating pinball buyer here - what a great time for the hobby (but not my bank account)!

I think we can all agree that a chocolate trim color on the Se would make this game pop a lot more than the black.

I would guess absolutely on the shaker motor, but no to the wonkavator.
but besides the cabinet art the standard seems like a solid buy.

So: CE allready sold out?

Sure, just add $500-$600.

Is it just me? Sounded like they were using some of the same callouts from JJPirates.
“Bonus X held” etc sounded identical among others.
Some callouts also seemed to fall flat with the game play while others seemed perfectly placed/choreographed.
Also, couldn’t they have used sound clips of atleast Gene wilder saying “Jackpot” multiple times instead of the voice actor?
I hope they make some tweaks but otherwise looks like a nice shooter.

In theory yes, but for $7500 you shouldn’t be wanting to take a paint roller to the side or feel like a $400 radcal set are your best options.

Dude, you own a JJPOTC, is this really your main concern?

I agree. Just thinking of ideas for guys that care. I understand why jjp did this though. LE has to provide something different other than glass, shaker and a lock mech.

OK, why not for the Wonkavator?

Just a physical install and code change, yes?

Is it just that JJP would not allow it?

RM

The announcer in the game reminds me of ripleys...

I love the gameplay, and hope we see a good video with direct audio feed this weekend like Jack Danger does for Stern.
The loud commentary really did not allow me to enjoy the livestream.

The sound bits seem like they were kind of choppy ( from what I could hear)
This is the first JJP ( Except WOZ) with the Absence of the Amazing David Theil, and it does show on what we have heard that he is not easily replaced