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Williams System 11c convert back to 11a ?

By cdreed01

8 years ago



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#1 8 years ago

Hi All,

I have a Pinbot which has the standard 11a fitted which occasionally suffers from hangs etc and is just starting to get annoying.

I may have access to a 11c pcbs which is all good but wondered if this could be retro'd back to an 11a for use in my Pinbot?

Any advise Greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

Colin.

#2 8 years ago

Sys 11c can only be used in system 11c games. All the sound circuitry is absent from them.

#3 8 years ago

There's a lot missing. I've looked at it before - I don't think it'd be *impossible*, or even all that expensive - but it would be a LOT of work, and for an inexperienced tech to troubleshoot the problems that could come up from installing all those parts.... I'd just send your board out and get it repaired.

If you need someone to take a look at it, I can. Just send me a PM.

#4 8 years ago

Yes, you could retrofit the parts to make it an 11A, but it would be a PITA, as JWJ notes. You'd have to source a few parts but they are all still available. You wouldn't need the pricey 65536 CVSD.

Edit: or maybe you would. The WMS System 11 sound source map is anything but clear.
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#5 8 years ago

Yes you would need the 55536 CVSD. Speech is generated on the CPU board on all of the system 11, 11A, and 11B pins.

#6 8 years ago

Pinbot normally uses 2 cvsd chips, but I haverun into one that did not have one on thecpu board and it still had all normal speech. This might be the reason for the alternate u22 Rom software and extra roms for the sound board

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#7 8 years ago

I have some CVSDs if anyone needs 1. I think Big Daddy has some as well.

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