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Williams sys9 Sorcerer flippers not working

By Crispin

4 years ago


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#12 4 years ago

OK the way I interpreting this there is no flipper relay on Sys9. The relay controls the path to ground for all special coils and the flippers. The transistor that drives the relay is Q86 2N4401 and it doesn't need anything but the pre-driver because the relay itself takes the place of the TIP122.

Test Q86 and also look at the solder joints on 1J19 and the relay itself
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#15 4 years ago

keep in mind the grounding test doesn't tell you the transistor is good. It only tells you the path to the coil is good. Test the 2N4401 in diode test can compare it to a known good working one

#19 4 years ago
Quoted from Crispin:

Thanks Cheddar, I tested the 2N4401 (Q86) in diode test and it measured .620 0hms like the others for the special solenoid section. Any idea why my left flippers don't fire when shorting the left flipper switch closed?

I think Andrew is on the right track.

Question. Do the flippers work when shorting Q86 and activating the relay?

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#31 4 years ago

so heat up failures are usually related to loose sockets. Turn the game on, play a few games then open the backbox. Try and twist the socketed chips or pull them out with your fingers. If you are manipulating a chip and the game locks you should replace that socket.

#33 4 years ago
Quoted from Crispin:

Thanks Cheddar that must be it. I just turned her on and now had an error code#6. I tried twisting all of the sockets. There are 3 game rom sockets and 3 pia sockets. None of them changed the error code but when I turned the game off and on she went back to "0" and plays fine. I should have twisted them one at a time and tried the game in between each one. Do you think it's more likely the pia socket than the game chips? I'm out of sockets so if I find the nasty culprit I'll just solder in the chip right to the board.

It would be worth the wait to order more sockets

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