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Williams Space Mission player reset relay

By lastlight

8 years ago

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Space Mission Williams, 1976

Does anyone know if this is normal?

I've looked at the 3-4 player reset and it does not have these gaps where the switches slide in. It seems to be affecting my reset on player 1-2 as some reels aren't always getting pulsed.

http://fishbrains.net/images/arcade/playerreset1.jpg

What is that plastic piece called and can a new one be installed? it's riveted in I don't think I am capable currently of doing that but if anyone can point me to a replacement or the whole assembly i'd be grateful. also how do i go about buying new switches for this or any other piece on the game? the ones in this relay are pretty mangled. these are the M29 900 if that helps.

http://fishbrains.net/images/arcade/playerreset2.jpg

Unit second from the right.

Hi lastlight
I am german speaking - when I want to talk about that stuff: I use "anchor plate" for the metal part - and I use "Nylon Ladder" for Your "plastic piece".

I had a look in my "Space Mission" - ALL 5 NYLON LADDERS (Your pic-2) look exactly the same - none does look like the Nylon Ladder as Your pic-1 is showing.

Maybe a "Preowner" could not adjust the blades on the Reset-Relay and (finally / frustrated) took a file and filed a bigger gap ?

Not visible in Your Pic-2: On Top -> above, above, above are 4 Interlock-Relays (if a player gets over 100'000 points) - these relays (in my Space Mission) only have 2 Switches, hooked-in into the Nylon-Ladder "in the MIDDLE". Your "faulty filed away spots are ON THE OUTSIDE of the ladder ->

Want to try ?: Take away "the anchor-plate with the Nylon Ladder" from an Interlock-Relay and mount this in place in / at the Reset-Relay ? and vice verse ?
The "filed-away spots / places" are not used in the Interlock-Relay (blades are in the middle).
Readjust the blades of the switches in the Reset-Relay (having a "new, good Nylon Ladder") ?
Greetings Rolf

Call Steve at PBR. I'm pretty sure he'll have good condition used armatures.

Thanks guys! Rolf that's a great idea I'll try that first. If I wanted to replace the switch stack as well what would I look for? Some are pretty mangled and I didn't have much luck trying to straighten them.

Hi lastlight
I do not know - if You succeed changing anchor-plates - it was just an idea I had when looking in the backbox (after having a look at Your pic-2) -> hey, these Interlock-Relays ...
I have mostly Williams pins - I would look through my box(es) of "spare parts" - I LIKE the widespread-used "M29-1100 Relays" I'd start (trying) to "sacrifice / using as donator" one of these.
YOU SHOULD HAVE A SWITCH ADJUSTMENT TOOL for setting the blades "correct" - an example is shown here: http://www.pbresource.com/tools.html#Tools -> the "L Contact Adjuster".
(You also could ask for Williams (Space Mission) "Switch Blades" (?)).

Two "flat (nose) pliers" bending a bit - then moving the pliers a bit - then bending a bit ...
If You do not succeed - I think: In USA / CANADA You should get new blades. Greetings Rolf

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