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Williams Shangri La: sometimes fails to add 1,000’s

By Portraitman2

1 year ago



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#1 1 year ago

My Williams Shangri-La pinball machine is mostly playing normally right now with the exception of all players fail much of the time to add thousands. Sometimes yes, many times no. I am not sure just which switches/relays I should look at for this? Any help much appreciated. Thank you.

#2 1 year ago

These highlighted switches and a connection on the player unit are involved with adding 1000 pts to each player.

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#3 1 year ago

Since it's the exact same iffy-ness for all players, my guess would be the switch on the 100 relay up there is most suspect.

#4 1 year ago

Tried checking using your highlighted schematic points, I am limited with my understanding of a schematic but I did check specifically using the first player and my 100 point relay switches all touch each other just fine, and the ninth position on my 100 points drum unit was properly closed, so now I’m stuck with maybe it’s the player up unit? I’m not sure how to figure this one out - here is a picture of a player up unit.

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#5 1 year ago

Clean the player unit contact traces there with a scotchbrite pad or similar if you haven't. Make sure the switches in the 100 relay have a little bit of extra travel after they touch and clean them with a few light swipes of a fine file. And check those wiper arms on the player unit in case one has been bent backwards or sideways and not making strong contact with good pressure, or the contact is not centered on the traces.

#6 1 year ago

OK just for an update, I cleaned the contact wiper blades and even had to take a needle nose plier to pinch the one at the 5 o’clock position tighter in to make sure it made contact. It seems that that did help the thousands to turn over more regularly but they still are missing at times. I did find that the bottom wire connected to the 100s drum was a little loose so I soldered that tight again too. It mostly gives the turnover to the thousands now but frustratingly occasionally I note that it does not. Better than it was.

#7 1 year ago

How about id'ing the pair of player unit wipers responsible for the 1000 pts. circuit, by putting a snip of paper under them and scoring 1000 to find them. Then use alligator wires from those two wipers to their own lugs on the board just to remove that as the source of the problem as you test the 100 points more. Did you clean the 100 pt relay switches?

10 months later
#8 9 months ago

Okay Frenchmarky, you were right, I finally found time to mess with the 100 relay switches, and one just wasn’t pushing through hard enough. The thousands now work! Thank you.

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