(Topic ID: 6835)

Williams machine chronology list wanted


By soren

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

Anywhere I can find a list of Williams machines ordered by chronology. That including their Bally and Midway brands.

#3 7 years ago

I came across a list a while back. One exists but I lost it. I'll look again today.

#4 7 years ago

The Williams list shows 8 other games being made between Black Knight and Jungle Lord... and Cyclone before Solar Fire... That's one messed up chronolgy!

#5 7 years ago

Did it myself through Excel imports and some cleaning. From High Speed on...

1986-01 High Speed
1986-04 Grand Lizard
1986-07 Road Kings
1986-10 PIN·BOT
1987-01 Millionaire
1987-03 F-14 Tomcat
1987-08 Fire!
1987-09 Fire! Champagne Edition
1987-10 Big Guns
1987-12 Space Station
1988-02 Cyclone
1988-05 Banzai Run
1988-06 Ramp Warrior
1988-06 Swords of Fury
1988-08 Taxi
1988-12 Truck Stop
1988-12 Jokerz!
1989-02 Earthshaker
1989-04 Atlantis
1989-04 Transporter the Rescue
1989-04 Black Knight 2000
1989-05 Ice Castle
1989-05 Pool
1989-08 Police Force
1989-10 Elvira and the Party Monsters
1989-11 Bad Cats
1989-12 Mousin' Around!
1990-01 Whirlwind
1990-04 The Bally Game Show
1990-06 Pool Sharks
1990-06 Rollergames
1990-09 Radical!
1990-09 Diner
1990-11 Dr. Dude
1990-11 Funhouse
1990-11 Riverboat Gambler
1991-01 Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball
1991-02 Harley-Davidson
1991-02 The Machine: Bride of Pin·bot
1991-03 SlugFest
1991-05 Gilligan's Island
1991-07 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
1991-08 The Party Zone
1991-08 Hurricane
1992-02 The Getaway: High Speed II
1992-03 The Addams Family
1992-07 Black Rose
1992-09 Doctor Who
1992-10 Fish Tales
1992-12 Creature from the Black Lagoon
1993-01 White Water
1993-04 Twilight Zone
1993-04 Bram Stoker's Dracula
1993-08 Indiana Jones: The Pinball Adventure
1993-09 Judge Dredd
1993-11 Star Trek: The Next Generation
1994-02 Popeye Saves the Earth
1994-02 World Cup Soccer
1994-02 Demolition Man
1994-06 The Pinball Circus
1994-07 The Flintstones
1994-08 Corvette
1994-10 The Addams Family Special Collectors Edition
1994-10 Red & Ted's Road Show
1994-11 The Shadow
1995-03 Theatre of Magic
1995-03 Dirty Harry
1995-05 No Fear: Dangerous Sports
1995-06 Indianapolis 500
1995-08 Johnny Mnemonic
1995-09 WHO dunnit
1995-10 Jack·Bot
1995-11 Congo
1995-12 Attack from Mars
1996-03 Safe Cracker
1996-05 Tales of the Arabian Nights
1996-09 Scared Stiff
1996-12 Junk Yard
1997-03 NBA Fastbreak
1997-06 Medieval Madness
1997-10 Cirqus Voltaire
1997-12 No Good Gofers
1998-04 The Champion Pub
1998-07 Monster Bash
1998-10 Cactus Canyon
1999-01 Revenge From Mars
1999-06 Star Wars Episode I
1999-11 Playboy
1999-11 Wizard Blocks

#6 7 years ago

That's a pretty good list. I'll give ya $5 for them all.

#7 7 years ago

I think HS2 marks the start of pinball's "sweet spot", if you will...

#8 7 years ago
Quoted from davewtf:

I think HS2 marks the start of pinball's "sweet spot", if you will...

I think there was more than one 'sweet spot' in pinball's history. For me, it was 1979-1980 (Flash, Gorgar, Firepower, Flight 2000, Black Knight, Paragon, Space Invaders, Xenon, etc.)

#9 7 years ago
Quoted from SunKing:

I think there was more than one 'sweet spot' in pinball's history. For me, it was 1979-1980 (Flash, Gorgar, Firepower, Flight 2000, Black Knight, Paragon, Space Invaders, Xenon, etc.)

+1!

#10 7 years ago

I'll probably get toasted for this but I think whirlwind and funhouse represent Williams as thier best efforts in pinball.......IMO

#11 7 years ago
Quoted from soren:

Did it myself through Excel imports and some cleaning. From High Speed on...

Excellent effort by the way Soren!!! Now where's that Bally one?

#12 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballslave:

Excellent effort by the way Soren!!! Now where's that Bally one?

Hmm. Didn't notice that there's no world cup.. Looks like I can only offer you $3 for that lot now.

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from SunKing:

davewth said:

I think HS2 marks the start of pinball's "sweet spot", if you will...
I think there was more than one 'sweet spot' in pinball's history. For me, it was 1979-1980 (Flash, Gorgar, Firepower, Flight 2000, Black Knight, Paragon, Space Invaders, Xenon, etc.)

let me rephrase, that marks the beginning of what I consider to be their sweet spot. Ya, i like whirlwind & funhouse too & other games before that.

starting with hs2, the next eight pins on that list are all keepers... that's an awesome stretch.

#14 7 years ago
Quoted from RWH:

I'll probably get toasted for this but I think Whirlwind and Funhouse represent Williams as thier best efforts in pinball.......IMO

I think each game has a different feel, everybody seems to like differnt pins. I used to really like the older machines but right now I have a few i am getting bored with

#15 7 years ago
Quoted from RWH:

I'll probably get toasted for this but I think Whirlwind and Funhouse represent Williams as thier best efforts in pinball.......IMO

I love whirlwind. In fact, some of the pinsider owners near me have been rudely asked to sell their's to me! Back in the day, my local arcade had Whirlwind and Funhouse sitting right next to each other. Those were the days!

#16 7 years ago

very nicely done

#17 7 years ago

Great list. Mostly I like this because it really goes to show that Williams/Bally, even being the greatest, still made plenty of clunkers (and through their golden years too ).

Stern bashers look at this list and tell me that Stern isn't at least close to the same good game to bad game ratio now that Williams had during this period.

#18 7 years ago
Quoted from guymontag451:

Stern bashers look at this list and tell me that Stern isn't at least close to the same good game to bad game ratio now that Williams had during this period.

Even their "clunkers" were still built like a tank compared to the build quality of Stern's.

From 1995-1998 Bally/Williams put out some great pins. In just those 3 years they put out more good titles then Stern ever has & i'm not even going back to the early 90's when they really started to kick ass.

Give me a list of Stern's that can hang with some of these all time greats.

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#19 7 years ago

I can't disagree with you smassa... apart from just on one point... NBA Fastbreak an 'all time great'...?

#20 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballslave:

... NBA Fastbreak an 'all time great'...?

sports bar great? That and World cup is all you would see at bars back then.

How was I able to get into bars in my graduating year?

#21 7 years ago
Quoted from soren:

1986-01 High Speed
1986-04 Grand Lizard
1986-07 Road Kings
1986-10 PIN·BOT
1987-01 Millionaire
1987-03 F-14 Tomcat
1987-08 Fire!
1987-09 Fire! Champagne Edition
1987-10 Big Guns
1987-12 Space Station
1988-02 Cyclone
1988-05 Banzai Run
1988-06 Ramp Warrior
1988-06 Swords of Fury
1988-08 Taxi
1988-12 Truck Stop
1988-12 Jokerz!
1989-02 Earthshaker
1989-04 Atlantis
1989-04 Transporter the Rescue
1989-04 Black Knight 2000
1989-05 Ice Castle
1989-05 Pool
1989-08 Police Force
1989-10 Elvira and the Party Monsters
1989-11 Bad Cats
1989-12 Mousin' Around!
1990-01 Whirlwind
1990-04 The Bally Game Show
1990-06 Pool Sharks
1990-06 Rollergames
1990-09 Radical!
1990-09 Diner
1990-11 Dr. Dude
1990-11 Funhouse
1990-11 Riverboat Gambler
1991-01 Bugs Bunny's Birthday Ball
1991-02 Harley-Davidson
1991-02 The Machine: Bride of Pin·bot
1991-03 SlugFest
1991-05 Gilligan's Island
1991-07 Terminator 2: Judgment Day
1991-08 The Party Zone
1991-08 Hurricane

Road Kings, Millionaire, Fire, Big Guns, Ramp Warrior, TruckStop, Atlantis, Bad Cats, Bally Game Show, Pool Sharks, Riverboat Gambler, Bugs Birthday Ball, Harley-Davidson, Slugfest, Gilligan's Island, Hurricane are at the very least "questionable" outputs.

I think that we all believe that Williams/Bally were the greatest overall pinball manufacturer in history, all things considered (unless you're an EM guy, then its probably Gottlieb). I just think that everyone is quick to jump on Stern with undue hate sometimes and everytime they release a dud like TRS, its an uproar. Mighty Williams was just as guilty of this. They made tons of classics, but there are also plenty of lame ducks there too. That's not a dig on them or you, just a statement. Stern does make fun games still, even if they are a little "cheaper".

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#22 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballslave:

I can't disagree with you smassa... apart from just on one point... NBA Fastbreak an 'all time great'...?

I was gonna put a note in there that the only real dogs I saw in that era were JY, NBAFB, and borderline CP.

If Stern ever has a run where they put out 12 and only 3 end up being lame I think we would all be shocked. Still glad they are around but I think we all agree they can do better.

We have seen games from each decade get better n better but since B/W's shut their doors we really haven't seen anything new or ground breaking? Let's hope JJP brings it hardcore!!

Anyone wanna buy a pimped out 07' HUO SM with all the mods you can think of??? Lol

Well maybe I don't hate Stern THAT much. (;

#23 7 years ago
Quoted from smassa:

Let's hope JJP brings it hardcore!!

My thoughts exactly... I have high hopes, and for some reason get the feeling the 'quality' of the game will be back to the B/W standards... maybe it's 'cos their first pin's a widebody, and all I can imagine is B/W in this format... Then there's the topper... interactive even! I don't recall any Stern with a topper... it smells of attention to detail, of what pinballers want... so I'm very interested to see how it turns out! the main thing that concerns me is how the LCD display will work... it could kill it for me, or it could blow it into another league all by itself!!

#24 7 years ago

I thought Space Shuttle put Williams back on the map? Is there no love for it?

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