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Williams Hurricane adding phantom credits at all times

By PinPilot

6 years ago



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#1 6 years ago

Just got my Hurricane fixed and it plays well, but it randomly adds credits at all times. It's very annoying when it happens during gameplay, as the credit sound overrides the game's sounds, and it takes over the DMD for a few seconds showing "Credits ", so you can't see what's happening.

IT'S NOT THE COIN DOOR! I disconnected the coin door cable from the board it connects to, and it still randomly adds credits.

It does it even when its not being touched! I can't find any correlation between moving a loose connector and the behavior occurring. Its as if the machine has a ghost!

Can anyone suggest a place to start looking?

#2 6 years ago

Weird switch stuff on a game like often means battery corrosion on the MPU underneath the battery holder. inspect chips/connectors in that area closely for nasty green stuff. Even a tiny bit is trouble.

#3 6 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Weird switch stuff on a game like often means battery corrosion on the MPU underneath the battery holder. inspect chips/connectors in that area closely for nasty green stuff. Even a tiny bit is trouble.

I removed the batteries, but there is some "green fuzz" on the board below where they mounted. I'll try cleaning that up and see if the issue remains.

#4 6 years ago
Quoted from PinPilot:

I removed the batteries, but there is some "green fuzz" on the board below where they mounted. I'll try cleaning that up and see if the issue remains.

Yeah you need the board professionally serviced or replaced. You can't "clean it up" with windex or whatever you need to do it pro (cosmetically removing the green stuff won't cut it). Your switch issues are going to get worse and soon the game will likely be unplayable beyond the credit add issue.

Apologies if you ARE a pro and know how to properly clean and remove battery corrosion from a board.

#5 6 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Yeah you need the board professionally serviced or replaced. You can't "clean it up" with windex or whatever you need to do it pro (cosmetically removing the green stuff won't cut it). Your switch issues are going to get worse and soon the game will likely be unplayable beyond the credit add issue.
Apologies if you ARE a pro and know how to properly clean and remove battery corrosion from a board.

For high level board repairs, I can heartily recommend Clive at the Coin-Op Cauldron. He fixes boards others won't touch (He's the only guy who will fix a Game Plan MPU2, for instance).

For simple things, I do it myself.

I used white vinegar and a toothbrush first to chemically remove the alkaline residue the AA batteries left. I then washed with hot water and scrubbed with baking soda for a little grit, and to neutralize the vinegar. Next I use a little liquid metal polish to clean up the solder points (this is cosmetic only). The last step is to scrub and rinse with 99% ISO alcohol, which removes any remaining water residue. Some will do a distilled water rinse, but I've never felt it necessary. Last step was to clean the cable connection points, especially the cabinet cable, J212, which did have some green gunk on the pins.

Board doesn't look great, but its 100% better than before, and I've halted the corrosion process, so no more damage should occur.

I will report back what happens when I put it back in the machine. For now, here is the board before and after cleaning (I also cut off the battery holder and soldered in remote batteries):

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#6 6 years ago

She's all fixed! No more errors, playing like a champ! Thanks CrazyLevi for sending me to exactly where I needed to concentrate my efforts.

Here's some playfield porn for you. It's dark in the back, so the photo is hard to take evenly. I'm gonna add some spotlights to the playfield to even out the brightness:

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