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Williams Gay 90's eject hole to powerfull

By Ramakers

2 years ago



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#1 2 years ago

I bought a Gay 90's in non playing condition.
After cleaned and ajusted all contact it is in full working order, but the eject hole is much to powerfull. Each time the ball shoots up at the glass, that cant be right. Is there any way to adjust this?
I can only find solutions for weak ejectors.
Also, can some one confirm that both drop targets are reset as soon as the second one is droped. You can't see both drop targets down at ones.

#2 2 years ago

Is it high tapped? Mine hits the glass sometimes. Is it the right coil?

There are two nails in the hole that control how the ball sits. You may have to adjust those so the ball is ejected more horizontally. The nails in mine are angled a bit away from the striker.

A slow motion video with your phone can be helpful to see exactly what is happening.

#3 2 years ago

It might be a good idea to check your mains voltage. The machine was designed for a 230v input voltage, so any circuit in the game that is supplied by an unregulated voltage (such as coils and lamps) could behave in undesirable ways when supplied with over/undervoltage (even if the difference is just a few volts). I know at least in the USA that the average mains voltage has crept up over the decades from 115v to as much as 125v in some locations, and this actually has caused some issues with vintage electronics (especially tube equipment).

If something similar is happening at your location your coils may be getting a little too much voltage, which will of course make them fire with more force. I would probably try to fix this first by substituting a coil with slightly higher resistance (you could also add some additional turns of wire to the existing coil, which would be a somewhat tedious job but would allow you to fine-tune it to your specific game and mains supply).

#4 2 years ago

You could adding a series resistor. Maybe something around 5-10 Ohms 5W would give good results.

#5 2 years ago
Quoted from Kent_Diego:

You could adding a series resistor. Maybe something around 5-10 Ohms 5W would give good results.

Or a stronger return spring

#6 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

Is it high tapped? Mine hits the glass sometimes. Is it the right coil?
There are two nails in the hole that control how the ball sits. You may have to adjust those so the ball is ejected more horizontally. The nails in mine are angled a bit away from the striker.
A slow motion video with your phone can be helpful to see exactly what is happening.

This post sums it up most.
It is not high tapped,but coil voltage is at 27.5v instead of 24v. Other voltages are fine, 117v is at 119 (motor voltage) 6v is at 6.3v
Line voltage is at 230. This is connected at the 225v tap. Maybe I can change this to the 240v tab, but I think this makes the flippers weak.
The coil in my cabinet is a G23-750 the schematics say it should be a G23-650. Is a 750 a higher resistance than a 650 (more windings with the same gauge)
the two pins in the hole are not nails. they don't seem to touch the ball, can someone share a picture of good setup of the pins.
here are some of mine:
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#7 2 years ago

Mine sits in the hole very similar to yours. I took a slow motion video, it launches with not as much air as yours does. Maybe you need an even weaker coil?

The ball hits the playfield on the 500 point insert for me.

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#8 2 years ago
Quoted from dr_nybble:

Mine sits in the hole very similar to yours. I took a slow motion video, it launches with not as much air as yours does. Maybe you need an even weaker coil?
The ball hits the playfield on the 500 point insert for me.
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I'm thinking weaker coil, stronger spring or ceramic resistor on coil power lug.

I have done all three on various pin titles.

#9 2 years ago

Thanks for the input, learning each day!
I went with a stronger spring, this is the only thing I had laying around at the moment. Now the ball pops out nice, not a lot of airtime, but I think this reduces the chance of damaging the playfield (imagine it getting worse).

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