Fire!
Williams, 1987Quoted from JeffZee:Hello,
Would someone be kind enough to post some detailed pictures of the rear of the insert board. I'm specifically interested in the SOL. 14 flash lamp arrangement and the wiring arrangement of the associated resistor board at the lower right of the insert board.
Thanks!
Are you referring to the light panel in the back box? Here's a few pics of mine if that helps.
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That is a personal preference.
My preference is a no. The art style does not fit the game
Quoted from Dannyb:Can anyone tell me what controls (sends power) the sling shots, what board they are on, and what they are.
Power is sent to all the coils via the auxiliary board on the right in the backbox. The MPU controls when each coil is fired based on which switch is pressed.
Just checking if anyone has any extra right hand side buildings with the balcony somewhat intact. Mine was sheared off and missing when I got the game so I want a piece I can reinforce with the brackets and get my game operational. Thanks
Thanks to Quadrider for tracing the plastics and shipping me the paper, starting to scan them in and create 3D models. Had to import my support brackets to fill in missing geometry from his cracked plastic. Plan is to model new buildings that will be 3d printed and attached to new lasercut PETG plastics. This way if buildings ever get damaged they are replaceable. I'm likely going to update the buildings a bit, possibly add flame LED's inside.
new fire! plastics (resized).pngQuoted from toyotaboy:Thanks to Quadrider for tracing the plastics and shipping me the paper, starting to scan them in and create 3D models. Had to import my support brackets to fill in missing geometry from his cracked plastic. Plan is to model new buildings that will be 3d printed and attached to new lasercut PETG plastics. This way if buildings ever get damaged they are replaceable. I'm likely going to update the buildings a bit, possibly add flame LED's inside.
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Seems like a worthy cause.......hope it goes well!!
Pay attention to the total thickness and alignment to the balcony ramps, that is probably the biggest challenge in getting this mod to work well IMO.
Quoted from toyotaboy:Starting to get some requests for more brackets, so I'll start this post to see if there's interest. Need at least 8 to make it worth running.
* FiDNeY103 - 1 set
* PGilligan - 1 setAdded 6 months ago: * FIREPOWER1980 - 1 set
Added 116 days ago: * Quadrider - 1 set
Added 88 days ago: Pyromedic - 1 set
Added 50 days ago: * pinflip_ - 1 set
Still holding at 6x….. need 2 more owners for another run. Any Takers?
I have come across a set of used buildings from a local owner who had long sold his game.
All have their issues, but maybe some are still useful - send me a message and we can discuss.
There are also a few smoke, bush/tree, nozzle & building railing plastics, but I did not include pictures of those, since they are still being produced. Again, send me a message if those are more what you are after.
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All have their issues, but maybe some are still useful - send me a message and we can discuss.
There are also a few smoke, bush/tree, nozzle & building railing plastics, but I did not include pictures of those, since they are still being produced. Again, send me a message if those are more what you are after.
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Sent you a PM. Could really use the right side building.
Alright, this is the current list I have (I know it's been a while since the new list got started):
* FiDNeY103 - 1 set
* PGilligan - 1 set
* FIREPOWER1980 - 1 set
* Quadrider - 1 set
* Pyromedic - 1 set
* pinflip_ - 1 set
* tonedog - 1 set
Rather than getting these waterjet, I'm going to try lasercutting. I've lasercut other parts so I know the quality is equal. Looks like I need to run 10 parts each for the price break, and I break even around 5 sets. Even with inflation (and me started making these like 7-8 years ago), I'm still going to stick to my original $50 price for the set with hardware included. Please PM me if you're wanting a set, if I get at least 5 commitments I'm going to run the 10 sets so there's leftovers.
Looks like I can do stainless steel for about the same price, might be a little more durable but I'd probably have to pre-tap all the holes.
Took my buildings off to fix a few things and install those awesome brackets. Now after reinstall the ball is jumping over the barrier instead of going to the lock ball spots Anyone ever have this issue? I think I can add some washers under plastic building lower connections to lift up the plastic a little. Any other suggestions?
Quoted from JRBBRJ:Took my buildings off to fix a few things and install those awesome brackets. Now after reinstall the ball is jumping over the barrier instead of going to the lock ball spots Anyone ever have this issue? I think I can add some washers under plastic building lower connections to lift up the plastic a little. Any other suggestions?
Show pics or a vid?
Quoted from JRBBRJ:Took my buildings off to fix a few things and install those awesome brackets. Now after reinstall the ball is jumping over the barrier instead of going to the lock ball spots Anyone ever have this issue? I think I can add some washers under plastic building lower connections to lift up the plastic a little. Any other suggestions?
Is it every shot or just clean shot moving fast? Try to shoot a slow-motion video to see what’s making the ball jump and adjust as needed, yes I had this issue on my game for a bit it took a little dialing in to get things smoothed out.
I finally spent some time today on this. Leveled everything, reinstalled buildings with a few washers. Buildings are not great by holes. New washers helped with the stability. However, the ball was hitting lip of plastic on both sides and jumping over the barrier back to the flippers. So I added a few dots on metal part ramp to change speed a little. One game in a no new issues. 
IMG_9373 (resized).jpegimage (resized).jpgQuoted from JeffZee:One of the things I did which proved successful was to slightly reduce the length of the support post to somewhat compensate for the thickness of the toyotaboy brackets.
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That's a great solution, nice innovation!
Hello.
New member here. I was given Fire! pinball (along with Black knight 2000 and Mousin around) for free a month ago. The Fire! had missing display and display mounting brackets. I found a spare display and display mounting brackets in my parts stash. The brackets are like the ones on this link:
https://www.actionpinball.com/parts.php?item=U450 but they do not fit (the mounting points are too far apart). Can someone please post a photo of correct brackets or a photo of the back of the display panel.
Thank you.
Quoted from topkat:Just picked up a . Have an issue where when the ball goes up the center ramp, its stuck on the plastic ramp lip. I took a photo, is the metal frame supposed ro be below the plastic ramp or above ?[quoted image][quoted image]
Definitely above the plastic ramp
Quoted from topkat:Thanks. Thats why always getting stuck
Anyone have any extra fire decals?[quoted image]
Classic arcades has them on eBay: ebay.com link: itm
Depending on how bad the wear and inserts are, you may want to consider hardtopping it instead.
Overall the pf is nice. I just need the fire decal inserts on the upper pf. If anyone bought the set and would sell please let me know
For the Champagne owners, I compiled some information about adding in the SOL 14 flashers. Click and scroll to May/2023...
http://www.jeff-z.com/pinball/fire/repair/repair.html
Here's a brief video...
I've been digging back into this game lately, had been putting off any work until I have time for the playfield swap but decided to get flippers rebuilt and enjoy it again in the near term. I've noticed a couple times with a 10x bonus and higher base, the math is off? first time 89,000 gave me 880,000 and just now 91,000 gave me 900,000
Mob tax?
Anyone else ever noticed this, presume it's a code bug and not a processor problem.
I just bought a Fire!. Trying to find left and right plastics along with shooter lane. Also looking for flame drum assembly.
Completed:
Rebuilt shooter, cleaned playfield, new rubbers,
Adding:
NVRAM, 2 back box bridge rectifier, and flipper rebuild kit.
https://classicplayfields.com/product-category/pinball-plastics/page/4/
Here is one option..
My Fire! is up and running. So my family can enjoy it and start challenging each other is there a way to remove the high scores that are defaulted? I already switched the high score reset to 24k.
Quoted from FireKingpin:My Fire! is up and running. So my family can enjoy it and start challenging each other is there a way to remove the high scores that are defaulted? I already switched the high score reset to 24k.
I believe the default high scores are the lowest available. Don’t worry if you aren’t t hitting them yet. Soon, you’ll surpass every one of them
toyotaboy Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions about your brackets even though you aren't producing them anymore. I sent the specs off to sendcutsend (total cost was 37 including shipping). Looking forward to getting them on and protecting the plastics.
IMG_7831 (resized).jpegHi all, is the Pinscore a great replacement display from Pinball Life a nice choice for Fire? Thanks in advance!!
I have been working on one of my OCD rules pages for Fire! Click...
http://www.jeff-z.com/pinball/fire/rules/rules.html
Oh, and...
On a very few occasions (twice now, actually, during long balls) I have noticed both Rescue Ramps lit for Extra Ball. Slingshot hits then toggle the Rescue Ramps between both lit and both unlit. Hitting one ramp collected the Extra Ball, but extinguished both inserts. I have no idea how I set that up and I have not been able to deliberately replicate the scenario. Ideas?
I’ve noticed that a really soft plunge can lift the 20k gate and have it roll back to the shooter lane to try again.
Great job on the rules sheet, and thanks for sharing! My Champagne came with just a standard lockdown bar (Bummer), I just ended up powder coating it while restoring the game, and although it came out really nice, it's still not the original. Pinball Planting has them re-brassed and in stock, but requires a swap for an old one.
Quoted from JeffZee:I have been working on one of my OCD rules pages for Fire! Click...
http://www.jeff-z.com/pinball/fire/rules/rules.html
Oh, and...Parts - Wanted
Brass Lockdown Bar for Fire! Champagne Edition
Wanted! - “Everyone is recommending plating. So I thought I'd include some long-winded background. I don't want to go "bling". My game is in decent shape. But it does look like it's 40 year...”
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