Back to William's chimes. I am refurb'ing an OXO. Have had problems with previous William's chime boxes sounding bad. So tried something new. Put the chime bar grommets that normally fit tightly inside the holes of the bars, on the posts first. Then put the bar on top of the grommet. Cut the plastic post sleeve in half to shorten it, then put the small metal retainer bar and long pin on top of the cut sleeve. This isolates the chime bar from the retainer bar, and lets the chime bar kind of float on the grommet. Sound was much better on all three lengths of chime. Still not a Gottlieb, or anywhere near the 3 and 4 inch bells in my 1960's Mayfair, but better than normal for Williams.